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| | The votes are in and counted... and the finalists are... | | The votes are in and counted... and the finalists are... |
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| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/AmberHawkInFlamesStyle]]</b> - By [[FourWillowsWeeping]] (19 Points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/AmberHawkInFlamesStyle</b> - By [[FourWillowsWeeping]] (19 Points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/CrimsonThicketOfBambooStyle]]</b> - By [[Quendalon]] (17 points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/CrimsonThicketOfBambooStyle</b> - By [[Quendalon]] (17 points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/JadeFanStyle]]</b> - By [[Mailanka]] (12 Points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/JadeFanStyle</b> - By [[Mailanka]] (12 Points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/PersimmonOceanOfJoyStyle]]</b> - By [[FourWillowsWeeping]] (12 points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/PersimmonOceanOfJoyStyle</b> - By [[FourWillowsWeeping]] (12 points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/CrimsonTempleStyle]]</b> - By [[Balthasar]] (11 Points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/CrimsonTempleStyle</b> - By [[Balthasar]] (11 Points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/TreadingOnDiamondsStyle]]</b> - By [[FourWillowsWeeping]] (10 Points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/TreadingOnDiamondsStyle</b> - By [[FourWillowsWeeping]] (10 Points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/BraveDragonStyle]]</b> - By [[Ikselam]] (9 points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/BraveDragonStyle</b> - By [[Ikselam]] (9 points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/MonkeyStyle2]]</b> - By [[Mapache]] (9 Points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/MonkeyStyle2</b> - By [[Mapache]] (9 Points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/DiamondWeaveOfDestinyStyle]]</b> - By [[Quendalon]] (8 points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/DiamondWeaveOfDestinyStyle</b> - By [[Quendalon]] (8 points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/FearsomeBarghestStyle]]</b> By [[Thinker]] (7 points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/FearsomeBarghestStyle</b> By [[Thinker]] (7 points) |
| − | # <b>[[CharmRelay/Sorrow]] aka "Black Mourner Style"</b> - by [[CharmRelay]] (7 points) | + | # <b>CharmRelay/Sorrow aka "Black Mourner Style"</b> - by CharmRelay (7 points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/SpiderStyle2]]</b> - By [[Telgar]] (6 points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/SpiderStyle2</b> - By [[Telgar]] (6 points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/HouseOfEndingsStyle]]</b> - By [[FourWillowsWeeping]] (6 Points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/HouseOfEndingsStyle</b> - By [[FourWillowsWeeping]] (6 Points) |
| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/WolfAndRavenStyles]]</b> - By [[Mapache]](6 points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/WolfAndRavenStyles</b> - By [[Mapache]](6 points) |
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| | I also included this one, bacasue it got a few votes but not many points. And it's cool: | | I also included this one, bacasue it got a few votes but not many points. And it's cool: |
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| − | # <b>[[MartialArts/AshenCalenderofSetesh]]</b> - by [[haren]] (5 points) | + | # <b>MartialArts/AshenCalenderofSetesh</b> - by [[haren]] (5 points) |
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| − | You can see the votes at [[MartialArts/BestOfOld]]. I took the top 15 because it gave a better spread of terrestrial, celestial & sidereal styles. - [[Voidstate]] | + | You can see the votes at MartialArts/BestOfOld. I took the top 15 because it gave a better spread of terrestrial, celestial & sidereal styles. - [[Voidstate]] |
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| | These are gorgeous! I'm so glad to have this. One thing that I noticed - an error I made in Persimmon Ocean of Joy. It's <i>Sinking Topaz Essence Shape</i>, not <i>Seductive Nectar Strike</i>, that should be the prerequisite Charm for the <i>Golden Wine of Heaven Form</i>. Also, on page 27 (Spider Style), some colums are breaking before Charm names, rather than after. - [[willows]] | | These are gorgeous! I'm so glad to have this. One thing that I noticed - an error I made in Persimmon Ocean of Joy. It's <i>Sinking Topaz Essence Shape</i>, not <i>Seductive Nectar Strike</i>, that should be the prerequisite Charm for the <i>Golden Wine of Heaven Form</i>. Also, on page 27 (Spider Style), some colums are breaking before Charm names, rather than after. - [[willows]] |
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| | :Actually, being as Black Mourner is Emo Fu, I would suggest wallet chains as form weapons. Anyway, I was going to print this out for my players to look through, but I remembered I'm running a Dragon Blooded game, and that would be silly. So, I think the next time we do this (ha!) there should be seperate voting for Terrestrial, Celestial and Sidereal styles each. ;P ~ <i>[[Grandmasta]], only half-joking</i> | | :Actually, being as Black Mourner is Emo Fu, I would suggest wallet chains as form weapons. Anyway, I was going to print this out for my players to look through, but I remembered I'm running a Dragon Blooded game, and that would be silly. So, I think the next time we do this (ha!) there should be seperate voting for Terrestrial, Celestial and Sidereal styles each. ;P ~ <i>[[Grandmasta]], only half-joking</i> |
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| − | I was thinking maybe Black Mourner should have Flail (to represent the Censers bearing incense during funerals) as a Style weapon. Or maybe a [[WarFan]] to represent the fans used by the mourners... Just a thought. And I's give Fearsome Barghest Smashfists or Wargauntlets, if anything... - [[Nikink]] <i>I cannot say thankyou enough, Voidstate... all your pdfs are so useful in my games...</i> | + | I was thinking maybe Black Mourner should have Flail (to represent the Censers bearing incense during funerals) as a Style weapon. Or maybe a WarFan to represent the fans used by the mourners... Just a thought. And I's give Fearsome Barghest Smashfists or Wargauntlets, if anything... - [[Nikink]] <i>I cannot say thankyou enough, Voidstate... all your pdfs are so useful in my games...</i> |
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| | : Flails sound good to me. ~ <i>[[G]]</i> | | : Flails sound good to me. ~ <i>[[G]]</i> |
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| | :: I'ce made those changes to DWD style (the flowchart actually looks like a weave now!) and'll upload them on Monday (stupid work FTP restriction). As for White Crane, I think it's a shame it didn't make it. It's the kind of MA that a lot of characters could make use of in all different types of game. Maybe next time... :) - [[Voidstate]] | | :: I'ce made those changes to DWD style (the flowchart actually looks like a weave now!) and'll upload them on Monday (stupid work FTP restriction). As for White Crane, I think it's a shame it didn't make it. It's the kind of MA that a lot of characters could make use of in all different types of game. Maybe next time... :) - [[Voidstate]] |
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| − | Here are the trees] - I'd really appreciate it if anyone could check I haven't messed up at all. - [[Voidstate]]
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| − | :On [[/ThousandWoundsGearStyle]], it should be "Wounds" not "Wound" (and "Razors" not "Razor") for consistency. --[[MF]]
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| − | :::Actually, you missed "Many Wound<b>s</b> Meditation." --[[MF]]
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| − | ::::Actually, Voidstate is right. The charm refers to the style name, but is not limited by it. - [[Scrollreader]]
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| − | :::::To have a Charm named "Many Wound Meditation" in a style named "Thousand Wounds Gear" is jarring to my ear, but you're the boss. --[[MF]]
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| − | :Looking over the rest of the trees, they all look good at this point. I particularly like the fan thing you did in 5 Falling Butterflies. - [[willows]]
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| − | :Me too, me too! It's very becoming...[[DeathBySurfeit]]
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| − | :The Brave Dragon diagram has an error; Leaping Dragon Fist doesn't require Concentration-Disrupting Taunting Technique, and Courageous Self-Sacrifice Method requires Legendary Taunt. _[[Ikselam]]
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| − | :I replied to your question re: the Unrelenting Automaton tree on RPGnet, but I thought I�d pitch in here as well - I corrected the prereqs, so the post-Form trees should be symmetrical now. - [[Argent]]
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| − | :That looks great, [[Resplendence]], thanks. = [[Voidstate]]
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| − | :: Thanks. I'll tweak it a bit more and change the name if necessary. When do you need it finished? [[Resplendence]]
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| − | ::: Hopefully. My Windows stopped working yesterday and I've been trying to save my data and maybe the hassle of a reinstall. If the world doesn't hate me I'll have it before Friday. [[Resplendence]]
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| − | :::: I've been re-laying out the original Martial Arts this week (I'm an inveterate tinkerer), so Friday is fine. - [[Voidstate]]
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| − | ::::: OK, cover is tweaked and finished. It can be found at the same URL as above. What resolution do you want it in for the PDF? [[Resplendence]]
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| − | It looks beautiful, [[Voidstate]], Not quite what I had in mind for its 'tree' formation... but it really does look nice. ^_^<br><br>
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| − | Also, the cover looks nice. Next go around, we'll need to call it something grand... say... "Eternal Lotus Petals" or some such... or 'countless'... ^_-<br>[[Haku]]
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| − | OK, the trees are done. Next I'll begin on the pages. Which reminds me, if anyone has any art I could use, now would be a good time to send it over, in B&W preferably. You can post a link here of email me at rpg AT voidstate DOT com. - [[Voidstate]]
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| − | : I've got a few as well that you can use with no worries. They're old, yes... but you can use as you wish, as long as you credit them to me (Bombadil Goh aka Baka Mazoku aka Haku) somewhere in the pdf.<br>[http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/Baka_Mazoku/infernal.jpg Want some of this?], [http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/Baka_Mazoku/lunar_dragonblooded.jpg Your kung fu is weak], [http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/Baka_Mazoku/earth_aspect.jpg Calling on the power of the earth], [http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/Baka_Mazoku/swordman.jpg super stunt pose!].<br>~[[Haku]]
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| − | ::<nowiki>WoW</nowiki>, great pics [[willows]] & [[Haku]]. As for how many I'll use, it'll depend on the page layout but I expect I'll include less pieces than there are styles. After all, people are going to have to print this out at home and I don't want to bump the page count up too much. Still, keep em coming as having a selection will help me be able to fit them into different size spaces. If possible if you're scanning them afresh, could you do it at at least 150 dpi. Ta. -- [[Voidstate]]
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| − | Whoa, I spotted an error in the text of [[/ArgentScorpionOfOppositionStyle]]. If you're still working on the text, please incorporate it! - [[willows]]
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| − | : Urk. I have already layed out [[ASoO]]. What has changed? - [[Voidstate]]
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| − | ::It's a parenthetical statement added to the Decorum. It's not actually ''essential,'' just, like, the perfectionist in me talking.I believe the statement in question is, (all techniques with Essence prerequisite 4 or greater) added right after "from this point onward". - [[willows]]
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| − | For anyone interested, I have now finished formatting anf laying out the martial arts. I just need to add art to some of them, check for orphans/widows and layout problems and put the cover in and it'll be finsihed. So far Resplendence, Phaide, Haku and Willows have all sent art over. If anyone else would like their pics included (and obviously to be credited for them), please send them to fergus AT voidstate DOT com within the next day or two. - [[Voidstate]]
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| − | Uk! There was voting? I missed it. Why does no one go way out of their way and cyber-stalk me to ensure that I find out about these things? :-) - [[Quendalon]]
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| − | Bah. Quit wingeing. You already have three in the top ten. If you'd voted too, it would have just been mean. :p - [[Voidstate]]
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| − | Also, if you ever get a chance to fix the errors in the Crimson Thicket prerequisites, I'd be grateful. Totally my fault that they were there in the first place. I just love seeing my work presented so cleanly (thank you!), and so the errors make me grit my teeth. - [[Quendalon]]
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| − | IT'S FINISHED! Thank you so much to everyone who wrote all these martial arts, and to those who took the time to vote. Thanks to Haku, Phaide, Willows and especially Resplendence for the art contibutions. I'm posting the link here for a day or so to give wikizens a chance to check through for errors or just to give general feedback. Then I'll post the link over on the WW forums and RPG.net.
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| − | :Hmm. Every time I try to download it, I get an error message from Acrobat. It might be just my shitty office comp, though; does anyone else experience this? - [[Argent]]
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| − | :: Thanks. I'll try the nobbly field in red tomorrow at work. It actually looked a lot clearer on my LCD monitor at work than on the one I have here at home. - [[Voidstate]]
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| − | ::: Looks much better now. [[Resplendence]]
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| − | ::If you have a better resolution copy of the Immaculate with 2 swords that'd be great. Also, I will replace the current pics with shaded ones if you are willing to shade them. The shaded guy with the crane on his chest does stand out much better then the others. - [[Voidstate]]
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| − | ::: Let's do that for next edition, shall we? I don't have the time now. :) [[Resplendence]]
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| − | : <i>Typography:</i> The automatic kerning stretches some words very thin when they flow around some of the pictures. You could've tweaked them by hand or used automatic hyphenation, which in my experience help with this problem. The typefaces and formatting are all greatly improved, although the Charm titles look a bit strange, with uneven letter sizes in some places. I tcould be the font though.
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| − | I know it throws off the beautiful fivefold symmetry, but White Crane is a Celestial art, not Terrestrial. - [[Quendalon]]
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| − | : Noooo! My beautiful page numbers and index! - [[Voidstate]]
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| − | Diamond Weave style, Reality-Hardening Pattern: Looks like you got carried away with a search-and-replace. The word "cost" got bolded, capitalized, and followed by a colon and tab in three places in the charm text. - Q
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| − | Using XP Pro SP2, Firefox 1.0.4 and Acrobat 7, just clicking on the link above gives me an error message, though I can view the PDF just fine if I save it to disk first. Perhaps a bad interaction with the Google link redirection? --[[MF]]
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| − | Just saw this, shows how much attention I pay! The pdf is very good I like it, well done to all involved. [[Eldmar]]
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I also included this one, bacasue it got a few votes but not many points. And it's cool:
Here's the final PDF. PLease let me know if you find I have missed anything and there aren't any typos in the text.(Or mistakes like missing costs, diagrams not agreeing with text, no weapons noted, etc.)
You can see the votes at MartialArts/BestOfOld. I took the top 15 because it gave a better spread of terrestrial, celestial & sidereal styles. - Voidstate
These are gorgeous! I'm so glad to have this. One thing that I noticed - an error I made in Persimmon Ocean of Joy. It's Sinking Topaz Essence Shape, not Seductive Nectar Strike, that should be the prerequisite Charm for the Golden Wine of Heaven Form. Also, on page 27 (Spider Style), some colums are breaking before Charm names, rather than after. - willows
Can anyone suggest weapons/armour restrictions for the following styles: Black Mourner, Crimson Temple & Fearsome Barghest. And Armour restrictions for House Of Endings. Thanks. - Voidstate
I was thinking maybe Black Mourner should have Flail (to represent the Censers bearing incense during funerals) as a Style weapon. Or maybe a WarFan to represent the fans used by the mourners... Just a thought. And I's give Fearsome Barghest Smashfists or Wargauntlets, if anything... - Nikink I cannot say thankyou enough, Voidstate... all your pdfs are so useful in my games...
There's an error in the flowchart for the advanced Diamond Weave Charms; Thread-Splicing Protocol is the second prerequisite for Clawing at the Weave. Also, I just fixed a mistake in Crimson Thicket of Bamboo Style... the prerequisite for Space-Stretching Gesture should be Crimson Chrysalis Technique, not Crimson Thicket of Bamboo Form. - Quendalon
