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Standardizing the bold and italic tags to be good html order (last opened, first closed) that my wife informed me of got rid of a lot of the hanging open and close tags; replacing the conversion error with proper tags fixed the rest. Not sure if the lines are best practice now; guess I'll wait a bit until new standards are developed -- IsawaBrian Well, that answers that question on whether or not it's still IsawaBrian or should be IsawaBrian entirely, not just the converted. -- still IsawaBrian