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| − | == Problematizing the Question ==
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| − | I suppose that assigning a rating of "greatest" depends on what aspect of generalship you rate as most critical to winning battles and wars.
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| − | Is it:
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| − | 1. …the ability to create a maneuver and logistical plan that brings the right elements to the right place at the right time on the right battlefield?
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| − | 2. …the ability to actually execute the plan despite the friction and fog of war?
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| − | 3. …the ability to survive the complete breakdown of the plan and adapt to unanticipated conditions?
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| − | 4. …the ability to inspire troops — which is a serious force multiplier — ?
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| − | 5. …the ability to anticipate an enemy’s actions?
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| − | Also, do you define winning as achieving tactical victories on a battlefield, or is it the strategic ability to weave a series of battlefield victories into a successful campaign that achieves your desired ends?
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| − | Not everyone can do this: Some armies have won every battle only to loose the war.
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| − | I imagine that the Mars and her immediate subordinates in the Crimson Panoply of Victory are frighteningly good at executing successful campaigns — using even marginal battlefield victories to further their aims and turning defeats into strategic advantages.
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| − | The Unconquered Sun probably excels at winning battlefield victories and inspiring his troops.
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| − | I can easily see Luna as the mistress of battlefield chaos and fluid adaptability.
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| − | == My Conclusions ==
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| − | 1) '''Mars'''……the very incarnation of war.
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| − | 2) '''The Unconquered Sun'''……god of all-around [[The Unconquered Sun as the God of Excellence | excellence]].
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| − | 3) '''Hu Dai Liang'''….Lord General of heaven’s Division of Battles.
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| − | 4) '''Luna'''…….goddess of cyclical change, nature, adaptability and survival.
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| − | 5) '''The First and Forsake Lion'''……Imagine Essence 10 Solar War Charms!
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| − | 6) '''Leviathan'''…….An ancient western Lunar with high Essence War Charms.
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| − | 7) '''Creation’s five regional gods of war'''……..Ahlat, Siakal, Sunipa, etc…
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| − | 8) '''Octavian'''……Demon general who has carved out a vast empire within Malfeas.
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| − | 9) '''Cathak Cainan'''…….Elder Dragon-Blooded general with potent War Charms.
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| − | 10) '''Local war gods and lesser members of the Crimson Panoply'''……Divinities such as Shield of a Different Day, Tien Yu and lesser members of the divine Bureau of War.
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| − | From here on down the list is dominated by The Bull of the North, various Lookshy Strategoi and Realm generals, including Tepet Ejava.
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| − | Back to [[MunificentPerception]]
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| − | ===== Comments, counter opinions? =====
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| − | I imagine Tien Yu might slot in there somewhere. - [[Trithne]]
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| − | *''Yikes! I just looked over her stats in the new Scavenger Lands book. She’s certainly impressive compared with her 1st ed., Outcast book description. I’ll put her on the list. Thanks.'' ~MunificentPerception
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| − | I would be entirely unsurprised if the Lion and Leviathan were better than Hu Dai and Luna, just based on the difference between god charms and exalt charms - but that is an argument that's been had a hundred times. -TheHoverpope
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| − | *''Tien Yu has a number of potent War Charms in the 2nd ed. Scavenger Lands book. I imagine that Hu Dai Liang’s second edition Charms are several times more frightening than those. At least that was my reasoning behind her placement.'' ~ MunificentPerception
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