Wordman/MartialArtsRequest - Revision history

Wordman: Testing script to fix links messed up in conversion

2010-06-03T22:36:57Z

Testing script to fix links messed up in conversion

Conversion script: link fix

2010-04-06T01:18:26Z

link fix

Conversion script: link fix

2010-04-05T08:08:38Z

link fix

Conversion script: link fix

2010-04-03T09:06:16Z

link fix

Wordman: Field changes

2007-11-19T20:23:33Z

Field changes

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As some of you know, I've taken to creating a number of pages on this wiki automatically, by applying code to the source text of other pages. I'm even willing to do this sort of thing on [[/CommissionEngine|commission]] if it is not to difficult. Now, I'd like to apply this idea to the MartialArts pages. Specifically, I want to populate the MartialArtsMatrix automatically, and build alternative versions of the MartialArts/ByContributor and the MartialArts/ByFavoredWeapon pages that are built automatically.

I need some help, though. While I probably could build a natural language processor smart enough to wade through the huge variations in the martial arts pages (in spite of the existence of [[MartialArts/ExampleStyle|fomatting standards]]) to extract the bits tracked by the matrix, this would be a significant effort, and more than I'd like to do right now.

So, I'd like to create an '''''opt-in''''' process, whereby martial arts authors could embed some specifically formated text someplace in their martial arts pages (it can be tucked away at the end, or anywhere else). This is ''not'' a request to reformat pages. Rather, it is a request to embed a small block of metadata somewhere on your martial arts pages. The "contract" would be that any martial arts pages containing this description would then automatically show up in the MartialArtsMatrix and the other pages mentioned (as well as any future pages base on the same meta-data).

The data block would start with a line that contained only the words "Matrix Metadata" and formatting codes, such as <code>==Matrix Metadata==</code> or <code>'''Matrix Metadata'''</code>. This would be immediately followed by lines containing data like so:

<pre>
== Metadata ==
:Name: a "clean" name of the style
:Author: a wiki link to the page of the author of the style
:Description: A single sentence description of the martial art, similar to those used on the main martial arts pages.
:Type: terrestrial|celestial|sidereal|initiation|unusual
:Rules: E1|PC|E2
:Form Weapons: a list of the weapons used in the style, separated by commas
:Armor Allowed: none,for some charms,light,medium,all
:Shield Allowed: yes,no
:Essence Range: X-Y, where X is the lowest Essence requirement required by a charm in the style and Y the highest
:MA Range: X-Y, where X is the lowest Martial Arts requirement required by a charm in the style and Y the highest
:Total Charms: total number of charms in the style
:Forms: total number of form charms in the style (usually 1)
:Comboable Charms: total number of charms in the style that may be comboed
:Reflexive Charms: number of reflexive charms in the style
:Persistent Charms: number of charms in the style that last more than single turn
</pre>

As an example, a block might look like like this, and you can see how it renders on the actual [[MartialArts/SableDispositionOfBeingStyle|Sable Disposition of Being]] page.

<pre>
== Metadata ==
:Name: Sable Disposition of Being
:Author: [[Wordman]]
:Description: A style that turns painting into reality, based on an unfinished relay style.
:Type: sidereal
:Rules: E2
:Form Weapons: brushes
:Armor Allowed: none
:Shield Allowed: no
:Essence Range: 4-7
:MA Range: 4-7
:Total Charms: 15
:Forms: 1
:Comboable Charms: 11
:Reflexive Charms: 1
:Persistent Charms: 5
</pre>

One note here: The "armor allowed" field doesn't work like the current MartialArtsMatrix works. The current page lists armor in a way that confuses people, so I'll be changing it when I make these new pages.

I am, frankly, not very enthusiastic that there will be any more people who opt-in than those who added their styles to the matrix already, but it's worth a shot. Would you opt-in? If not, why not? If you are not willing to add such metadata to your pages yourself, would you care if others added it for you? What other pages would you want to see built from the data? Should any other metadata be collected? Should any be eliminated? Is this general metadata approach something that would be welcome/useful for other types of pages?

== Comments ==
Seems like a good idea to me. Added your meta data block to all my MA pages.-[[Ambisinister]]

Wordman: Removed subtype from the stat block, as no one knows what it means anyway

2007-11-19T20:19:13Z

Removed subtype from the stat block, as no one knows what it means anyway

Ambisinister: *all metadata'd up

2007-08-03T17:30:02Z

*all metadata'd up

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:36, 3 June 2010
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−	As some of you know, I've taken to creating a number of pages on this wiki automatically, by applying code to the source text of other pages. I'm even willing to do this sort of thing on [[Wordman~~/MartialArtsRequest~~/CommissionEngine\|commission]] if it is not to difficult. Now, I'd like to apply this idea to the [[MartialArts]] pages. Specifically, I want to populate the [[MartialArtsMatrix]] automatically, and build alternative versions of the [[MartialArts/ByContributor]] and the [[MartialArts/ByFavoredWeapon]] pages that are built automatically.	+	As some of you know, I've taken to creating a number of pages on this wiki automatically, by applying code to the source text of other pages. I'm even willing to do this sort of thing on [[Wordman/CommissionEngine\|commission]] if it is not to difficult. Now, I'd like to apply this idea to the [[MartialArts]] pages. Specifically, I want to populate the [[MartialArtsMatrix]] automatically, and build alternative versions of the [[MartialArts/ByContributor]] and the [[MartialArts/ByFavoredWeapon]] pages that are built automatically.

	I need some help, though. While I probably could build a natural language processor smart enough to wade through the huge variations in the martial arts pages (in spite of the existence of [[MartialArts/ExampleStyle\|fomatting standards]]) to extract the bits tracked by the matrix, this would be a significant effort, and more than I'd like to do right now.		I need some help, though. While I probably could build a natural language processor smart enough to wade through the huge variations in the martial arts pages (in spite of the existence of [[MartialArts/ExampleStyle\|fomatting standards]]) to extract the bits tracked by the matrix, this would be a significant effort, and more than I'd like to do right now.

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−	As some of you know, I've taken to creating a number of pages on this wiki automatically, by applying code to the source text of other pages. I'm even willing to do this sort of thing on [[/CommissionEngine\|commission]] if it is not to difficult. Now, I'd like to apply this idea to the [[MartialArts]] pages. Specifically, I want to populate the [[MartialArtsMatrix]] automatically, and build alternative versions of the [[~~MartialArtsWordman/MartialArtsRequest~~/ByContributor]] and the [[~~MartialArtsWordman/MartialArtsRequest~~/ByFavoredWeapon]] pages that are built automatically.	+	As some of you know, I've taken to creating a number of pages on this wiki automatically, by applying code to the source text of other pages. I'm even willing to do this sort of thing on [[Wordman/MartialArtsRequest/CommissionEngine\|commission]] if it is not to difficult. Now, I'd like to apply this idea to the [[MartialArts]] pages. Specifically, I want to populate the [[MartialArtsMatrix]] automatically, and build alternative versions of the [[MartialArts/ByContributor]] and the [[MartialArts/ByFavoredWeapon]] pages that are built automatically.

	I need some help, though. While I probably could build a natural language processor smart enough to wade through the huge variations in the martial arts pages (in spite of the existence of [[MartialArts/ExampleStyle\|fomatting standards]]) to extract the bits tracked by the matrix, this would be a significant effort, and more than I'd like to do right now.		I need some help, though. While I probably could build a natural language processor smart enough to wade through the huge variations in the martial arts pages (in spite of the existence of [[MartialArts/ExampleStyle\|fomatting standards]]) to extract the bits tracked by the matrix, this would be a significant effort, and more than I'd like to do right now.

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-As some of you know, I've taken to creating a number of pages on this wiki automatically, by applying code to the source text of other pages. I'm even willing to do this sort of thing on [[/CommissionEngine|commission]] if it is not to difficult. Now, I'd like to apply this idea to the MartialArts pages. Specifically, I want to populate the MartialArtsMatrix automatically, and build alternative versions of the MartialArts/ByContributor and the MartialArts/ByFavoredWeapon pages that are built automatically.
+As some of you know, I've taken to creating a number of pages on this wiki automatically, by applying code to the source text of other pages. I'm even willing to do this sort of thing on [[/CommissionEngine|commission]] if it is not to difficult. Now, I'd like to apply this idea to the [[MartialArts]] pages. Specifically, I want to populate the [[MartialArtsMatrix]] automatically, and build alternative versions of the [[MartialArtsWordman/MartialArtsRequest/ByContributor]] and the [[MartialArtsWordman/MartialArtsRequest/ByFavoredWeapon]] pages that are built automatically.
 I need some help, though. While I probably could build a natural language processor smart enough to wade through the huge variations in the martial arts pages (in spite of the existence of [[MartialArts/ExampleStyle|fomatting standards]])  to extract the bits tracked by the matrix, this would be a significant effort, and more than I'd like to do right now.
-So, I'd like to create an '''''opt-in''''' process, whereby martial arts authors could embed some specifically formated text someplace in their martial arts pages (it can be tucked away at the end, or anywhere else). This is ''not'' a request to reformat pages. Rather, it is a request to embed a small block of metadata somewhere on your martial arts pages. The "contract" would be that any martial arts pages containing this description would then automatically show up in the MartialArtsMatrix and the other pages mentioned (as well as any future pages base on the same meta-data).
+So, I'd like to create an '''''opt-in''''' process, whereby martial arts authors could embed some specifically formated text someplace in their martial arts pages (it can be tucked away at the end, or anywhere else). This is ''not'' a request to reformat pages. Rather, it is a request to embed a small block of metadata somewhere on your martial arts pages. The "contract" would be that any martial arts pages containing this description would then automatically show up in the [[MartialArtsMatrix]] and the other pages mentioned (as well as any future pages base on the same meta-data).
 The data block would start with a line that contained only the words "Matrix Metadata" and formatting codes, such as <code>==Matrix Metadata==</code> or <code>'''Matrix Metadata'''</code>. This would be immediately followed by lines containing data like so:
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 :Name: a "clean" name of the style
 :Author: a wiki link to the page of the author of the style
 :Type: terrestrial|celestial|sidereal|initiation|unusual
 :Rules: E1|PC|E2
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 :Name: Sable Disposition of Being
 :Author: [[Wordman]]
 :Type: sidereal
 :Rules: E2
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 </pre>
-One note here: The "armor allowed" field doesn't work like the current MartialArtsMatrix works. The current page lists armor in a way that confuses people, so I'll be changing it when I make these new pages.
+One note here: The "armor allowed" field doesn't work like the current [[MartialArtsMatrix]] works. The current page lists armor in a way that confuses people, so I'll be changing it when I make these new pages.
-I am, frankly, not very enthusiastic that there will be any more people who opt-in than those who added their styles to the matrix already, but it's worth a shot. Would you opt-in? If not, why not? If you are not willing to add such metadata to your pages yourself, would you care if others added it for you? What other pages would you want to see built from the data? Should any other metadata be collected? Should any be eliminated (I'm not sure subtype is very useful, for example; it is only there because it is used to group styles on the CelestialMartialArts page)? Is this general metadata approach something that would be welcome/useful for other types of pages?
+I am, frankly, not very enthusiastic that there will be any more people who opt-in than those who added their styles to the matrix already, but it's worth a shot. Would you opt-in? If not, why not? If you are not willing to add such metadata to your pages yourself, would you care if others added it for you? What other pages would you want to see built from the data? Should any other metadata be collected? Should any be eliminated? Is this general metadata approach something that would be welcome/useful for other types of pages?
 == Comments ==
 Seems like a good idea to me. Added your meta data block to all my MA pages.-[[Ambisinister]]