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Two target method (EtL p156) is quite possibly the lamest printed
charm ever. It is an "extra action" charm allows the user two split
their successes from an attack between two targets and attack them
both. Using two target method as printed is inferior to splitting the
character's die pool and making two attacks if the character has more
than five dice in their dex + archery pool.

Here's what I intend to use if a player takes the charm in my game.

Two-Target method (revised)

Cost 3 motes

Duration instant

Type extra action

minimum dex 3

minimum essence 2

prerequisite charm knowing the arrow's path

By using his essence to alter the arrow's flight a lunar can attack
two targets with a single arrow, usually by shooting through the first
target into the second. Both victims must be within two yards of each
other. The Lunar?s player makes a single thrown or archery attack and
applies it against one of the two targets as normal (including
damage). Unless the attack is completely parried (not dodged) by the
first target the missile proceeds to the second target and attacks
with the total number of successes that the lunar had on their
original roll (unaltered by any defenses of the first target). The
difficulty of defending against the missile is increased by two for
the second target

== comments ==
it is my firm belief that lunar charms are supposed to suck, to the degree that lunar characters will preferentially do anything before buying charms. The Charms should be redesigned with this goal in mind. - [[willows]] thinks lunars suck.

But for god's sake WHY? I mean, why do Lunars have to suck? Just because whoever wrote the Charms was a moron? I think we should try to fix that, not make new Charms conform to it. Lunars should be good at combat, and their Charms should reflect this. It's really shameful how utterly worthless most of the Lunar combat Charms are, and how hard it is to get to any of the good ones besides DBT. Anyway, off to get high. - SilverMeerKat

<Facetious>Dude, no, Lunars are the "blows goats" Exalted type. You're supposed to feel like you stepped into a cow pie when you read the book; GCG meant it that way. They make the Solars more glorious by contrast, much in the way that Homsar and the Poopsmith, by sucking so profoundly, can make even Homestar Runner and Strong Bad look like teh k00l d00dz by comparison.</facetious> By which I mean, the charms are meant to be just kinda-sorta bad, to lead Lunars to use their other toolkits (Backgrounds, the Pact, shapechanging) instead, to further differentiate them from the "magical people". - [[willows]]

Ok, I can see that logic, but even going by that - shouldn't the Lunars be good at using shapechanging for stuff? I mean, they have DBT, that's great. But I always understood the Lunars as being essentially the equals of the Solars in combat (and of course the inferiors in everything else). I dunno, it just seems to me that Lunars should have powerful but limited magic, as the book suggests that they have, rather than gimpy and limited, as the book shows that they have. Plus, having DBT be absolutely the single useful combat Charm the Lunars get makes them pretty uninteresting, Charm-wise; one-trick ponies and whatnot. It also eliminates the use of Charms strategically in combat. Anyway, as Blaque would say, stuff. Damn bum acid, got me up at near 5 in the mornin' for nothin'... <grumble>...</grumble>. - SilverMeerKat

Ok, as of about two hours later, I can officially say "nevermind." - SilverMeerKat (at least most of me...)

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-Two target method (EtL p156) is quite possibly the lamest printed
+Two target method ([[EtL]] p156) is quite possibly the lamest printed
 charm ever. It is an "extra action" charm allows the user two split
 their successes from an attack between two targets and attack them
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 it is my firm belief that lunar charms are supposed to suck, to the degree that lunar characters will preferentially do <i>anything</i> before buying charms. The Charms should be redesigned with this goal in mind. - [[willows]] thinks lunars suck.
-But for god's sake WHY? I mean, why do Lunars have to suck? Just because whoever wrote the Charms was a moron? I think we should try to fix that, not make new Charms conform to it. Lunars should be <i>good</i> at combat, and their Charms should reflect this. It's really shameful how utterly worthless most of the Lunar combat Charms are, and how hard it is to get to any of the good ones besides DBT. Anyway, off to get high. - SilverMeerKat
+But for god's sake WHY? I mean, why do Lunars have to suck? Just because whoever wrote the Charms was a moron? I think we should try to fix that, not make new Charms conform to it. Lunars should be <i>good</i> at combat, and their Charms should reflect this. It's really shameful how utterly worthless most of the Lunar combat Charms are, and how hard it is to get to any of the good ones besides DBT. Anyway, off to get high. - [[SilverMeerKat]]
 <Facetious>Dude, no, Lunars are the "blows goats" Exalted type. You're supposed to feel like you stepped into a cow pie when you read the book; GCG meant it that way. They make the Solars more glorious by contrast, much in the way that Homsar and the Poopsmith, by sucking so profoundly, can make even Homestar Runner and Strong Bad look like teh k00l d00dz by comparison.</facetious> By which I mean, the charms are meant to be just kinda-sorta bad, to lead Lunars to use their other toolkits (Backgrounds, the Pact, shapechanging) instead, to further differentiate them from the "magical people". - [[willows]]
-Ok, I can see that logic, but even going by that - shouldn't the Lunars be good at using shapechanging <i>for</i> stuff? I mean, they have DBT, that's great. But I always understood the Lunars as being essentially the <i>equals</i> of the Solars in combat (and of course the inferiors in everything else). I dunno, it just seems to me that Lunars should have powerful but limited magic, as the book suggests that they have, rather than gimpy and limited, as the book shows that they have. Plus, having DBT be absolutely the single useful combat Charm the Lunars get makes them pretty uninteresting, Charm-wise; one-trick ponies and whatnot. It also eliminates the use of Charms <i>strategically</i> in combat. Anyway, as Blaque would say, stuff. Damn bum acid, got me up at near 5 in the mornin' for nothin'... <grumble>...</grumble>. - SilverMeerKat
+Ok, I can see that logic, but even going by that - shouldn't the Lunars be good at using shapechanging <i>for</i> stuff? I mean, they have DBT, that's great. But I always understood the Lunars as being essentially the <i>equals</i> of the Solars in combat (and of course the inferiors in everything else). I dunno, it just seems to me that Lunars should have powerful but limited magic, as the book suggests that they have, rather than gimpy and limited, as the book shows that they have. Plus, having DBT be absolutely the single useful combat Charm the Lunars get makes them pretty uninteresting, Charm-wise; one-trick ponies and whatnot. It also eliminates the use of Charms <i>strategically</i> in combat. Anyway, as Blaque would say, stuff. Damn bum acid, got me up at near 5 in the mornin' for nothin'... <grumble>...</grumble>. - [[SilverMeerKat]]
-Ok, as of about two hours later, I can officially say "nevermind." - SilverMeerKat (at least most of me...)
+Ok, as of about two hours later, I can officially say "nevermind." - [[SilverMeerKat]] (at least most of me...)

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