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TonyC: comic book physics argument.

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 :Next Action: 4
-:Yours isn't bad either. Two dice for you. And boom, right here we ran across conflicting rules. How does stunt add to static values such as DV? According to Ex2 p. 124, your DV goes up by 2. According to p. 145 & p. 148, you roll the stunt dice, and successes add to DV. For now, using  [[http://wiki.white-wolf.com/exalted/index.php/Second_Edition_Core/Questions#Stunts_and_DV.2C_pp_124.2C_145.2C_148]] as guideline, we'll roll stunt dice. (That's roll once, apply to all DV.)
+:Yours isn't bad either. Two dice for you. And boom, right here we ran across conflicting rules. How does stunt add to static values such as DV? According to Ex2 p. 124, your DV goes up by 2. According to p. 145 & p. 148, you roll the stunt dice, and successes add to DV. For now, using  [[http:/Questions#Stunts_and_DV.2C_pp_124.2C_145.2C_148]] as guideline, we'll roll stunt dice. (That's roll once, apply to all DV.)
 :Anyway, I'll argue that for the duration of 3-Fold Partition, your one-vs-one specialty do not apply. From your POV, you are being ganged-up. (And yes, I'm entertaining the idea of Coordinated Attack as a way of breaching your ridiculously high DVs). You also forgot your Hearthstone Bracer dodge bonus and the Onslaught penalty against your 2nd Dodge is actually -2. Onslaught penalty is applied to both DV each attack, regardless of what DV you applied to it. I'm taking the liberty of writing your defense declaration based on your description plus my corrections. Feel free to correct me if I made an error in interpretation.
 ::Since my Parry DV suffers no Onslaught penalties due to Four Halo Golden Monkey Realignment, I didn't count attacks involving it in calculating the penalty. However, you're right, it should add up anyway for defenses that do count it. Stunt dice: (3, <b>9</b>) = 1 success.

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 === The Combatants ===
-*[[TrialByFireTrialByFire/ShunVersusMonkey/BrokenWingShun]]: [[IanPrice]]'s champion, relying on the Celestial Monkey style and how its pinnacle charm allows him to use any weapon and armor with the style's charms.
+*[[TrialByFire/BrokenWingShun]]: [[IanPrice]]'s champion, relying on the Celestial Monkey style and how its pinnacle charm allows him to use any weapon and armor with the style's charms.
 :S: <code>-|--|--|-|-</code>, wp 10/10, psnl: 25/0/25, prph: 41/40/81, ECG: 75/0/75, DV plty: 0, Soak: 20B/17L/15A, Hardness: 10B/10L/10A
-*[[TrialByFireTrialByFire/ShunVersusMonkey/MonkeyTBF]] : [[TonyC]]'s champion, master of three different martial art styles and confident that this gives him the ability to find or make a hole in any given opponent's defenses.
+*[[TrialByFire/MonkeyTBF]] : [[TonyC]]'s champion, master of three different martial art styles and confident that this gives him the ability to find or make a hole in any given opponent's defenses.
 :M: <code>-|---|----|-|-</code>, wp 9/9, psnl: 14/10/24, prph: 57/0/57, DV plty: 0, Soak: 4B/2L/0A<br>
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 ## Kick {1, 5, 4, 1, 5, 6, <b>7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 9</b>} = 7.
 ## Punch {5, 2, 2, 3, 2, 6, 4, 4, <b>8, 9, 9, 9, 10</b>} = 6.
-# Attack reroll [[NTrialByFire/ShunVersusMonkey/A]]
+# Attack reroll N/A
 # External penalties.
 ## DV 13. Punch misses.
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 ## Bite: {4, 1, 6, 2, 4, 6, 6, 3, 5, 3, 5, 1, 3, 5, <b>7, 8, 9</b>} = 3 successes.
 ## Bite: {3, 6, 3, 4, 6, 6, 4, 4, 5, 4, 6, 5, 4, 2, <b>8, 8, 10</b>} = 4 successes.
-# Attack reroll [[NTrialByFire/ShunVersusMonkey/A]]
+# Attack reroll N/A
 # External penalties.
 ## DV 14. Kick (bite) misses.
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 ## Kick
 ## Kick
-# Attack reroll ([[NTrialByFire/ShunVersusMonkey/A]])
+# Attack reroll (N/A)
 # External Penalty
 # Result: Attacks fail due to perfect defenses.
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 ## Parry DV 9 + stunt - 2 Onslaught. Batted boulder already missed.
 # Defense reroll: none
-# Raw damage: [[NTrialByFire/ShunVersusMonkey/A]]
+# Raw damage: N/A
-# Soak: [[NTrialByFire/ShunVersusMonkey/A]]
+# Soak: N/A
 # Counterattacks (Monkey counter-attacks.)
 ## Ranged Punch (5 Dex + 10 MA + 1 accuracy + 1 orichalcum + 4 hearthstone + 2 stunt) = 23 dice. + 5 autosuccesses. Base damage is 13L.
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 ## Raw damage: 13L + 10 = 23L.
 ## Soak & Hardness. Hardness is 10L. Attack breaches Hardness. Soak is 20L. 23L-20L=3L. But minimum damage is 5L. But Twilight anima negates up to 5 HL of rolled damage.
-## Counter-attack. [[NTrialByFire/ShunVersusMonkey/A]].
+## Counter-attack. N/A.
 ## Result: Punch connects, but the Twilight anima ability prevents it from inflicting harm.
 # Result: Shun's attacks miss. Impeccable steals 5 motes from Shun, which mitigates the charm costs he spent this action. Monkey chooses to regain wp from stunt reward. He gets 2 wp.
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 Are you sure you want this location? While this is not as advantageous to me as a storm-tossed sloop or a tropical jungle or the towers of Old Chiaroscuro, all I need to do is go a dozen yards into the sea and you will not be able to touch me. Also, your peripheral essence is incorrect. Your peripheral essence pool should be (Essence x 7 + Willpower + sum of Virtues + Skin Mount Amulet + Skin Mount Amulet) = 5 x 7 + 10 + 20 + 8 + 8 = 81. Not 76. Of this, 40 is committed, leaving you with a Peripheral pool of 41. On top of this, you have an Essence-Containing Gem that gives you access to 75 additional motes. Just remember that you can't stunt back the motes from Essence-Containing Gem. Err, is it kosher to commit motes from Essence Containing Gem to attune artifacts and power non-instant charms? Somebody check Abyssal, I don't have it anymore. - [[TonyC]]
-Just a quick reply: Non-instant charms yes (you took advantage of this in [[TonyCTrialByFire/ShunVersusMonkey/SolarsVsLion]]), artifacts no. Thanks for correcting my Essence math. As for the location, I'll make do. Remember that all weapons includes improvised weapons, so I can use my MA to throw junk too, just not as well as you can. Then again, I can pick up heavier stuff.
+Just a quick reply: Non-instant charms yes (you took advantage of this in [[TonyC/SolarsVsLion]]), artifacts no. Thanks for correcting my Essence math. As for the location, I'll make do. Remember that all weapons includes improvised weapons, so I can use my MA to throw junk too, just not as well as you can. Then again, I can pick up heavier stuff.
 - [[IanPrice]]

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 ::::: Let's approach this from a different mindset. Your visual theme is "heavy". Using comic book physics, "heavy" sinks, even when the super could toss a tank easily which should mean he's able to kick water with enough force that he could stay afloat or even mimic a dolphin's leap. Juggernaut, for example, has been shown walking underwater instead of swimming. Juggernaut is not even heavily armored. He has his metal helmet, and possibly some of the bulky bands of his costume is metal (but probably not), but he's actually wearing either leather or latex. Yet he sinks. Because he looks heavy. - TonyC
 ::::: I never said you can't move. You could walk, jump, and well, toss yourself around with a stunt. What is there in swimming that you must have that you can't achieve some other way? The only one I can think of is going up to renew your breath, but if this worries you, I promise that we'll do another location change long before you run out of breath. However, if you still thinks that it's important that Shun be able to swim, sure, go ahead. - TonyC
 I think we're set. Ian, you can go. Or if you want me to go first, have Shun guard, and I'll start Tick 30. - TonyC