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 The Cold King smiled coldly and brought his sword into a ready position. "And so you shall."
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 The Cold King smiled coldly and brought his sword into a ready position. "And so you shall."
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 In an actual fight with stunts, assuming a single one-die stunt a turn from each character, the Earth Aspect wouldn't have run out of essence so quickly, but neither would the Lunar. I expect the Earth Aspect would have immediately spent most of the essence on powering Flickering Candle Meditation to help avoid attacks, and it would have slowed his death significantly. The Lunar would have been able to rely on his Crouching Tiger Stance longer and more often. The Water Immaculate had no essence problems, and so it would not have affected her. The fight would have lasted longer, but still would have most likely ended the way it did (assuming a similar trend in rolls) because the Earth Aspect is doomed if he attacks or not. If he makes a big attack and it gets past CTS, he might drop the Lunar to -1s, but the Lunar will then flurry him right afterwards. If he splits his actions to attack, he's unlikely to get past CTS and will be forced to expend crucial actions to parry the counterattack. And if he defends, the Lunar can keep attacking all day, sneaking in ping damage whenever he rolls badly. What kills him is the low Rate of the dire lance-- he can't make enough parries to deal with the Lunar's flurries and can't split enough ways to effective attack and defend in the same round against the superior-Rate Lunar (the +5 acc on a moonsilver daiklaive didn't help).
-You made a great insight-- the Power Combat rules, with their Rate restrictions and init-holding penalty and other such fun, intentionally favor [[SolarsTheMyriadOfShades/PC225/Abyssals]] over others. It also initially appears to favor Sidereals, but between essence=ping, the reduced defensive ratings of many weapons, and the increased accuracy ratings of many weapons, Sidereals face a real "kill your opponent quickly, get a persistent defense, or hope [[ItF]] doesn't exhasut you and get you killed" dilemna that makes them powerful, but not insane. Between the Charm revisions and the biases built into the system against those without plentiful reflexives (note that the Lunar's Combo, containing both CTS and Feline Guard Technique, is designed to allow him to use reflexive defenses both before and after his initiative, even though FGT comes with nasty other restrictions), Solars are much more powerful in Power Combat than in Classic, both on their own merits and because they have ways to ignore many of the restrictions Power Combat (or the combat system in general) places on your behavior. This fight was a little unfair, because the Lunar could, to some extent, play the "I rely entirely on reflexive defense" game, while a fight between opponents who both have to worry about splitting their Rate between attack and defense looks very different.
+You made a great insight-- the Power Combat rules, with their Rate restrictions and init-holding penalty and other such fun, intentionally favor Solars/Abyssals over others. It also initially appears to favor Sidereals, but between essence=ping, the reduced defensive ratings of many weapons, and the increased accuracy ratings of many weapons, Sidereals face a real "kill your opponent quickly, get a persistent defense, or hope [[ItF]] doesn't exhasut you and get you killed" dilemna that makes them powerful, but not insane. Between the Charm revisions and the biases built into the system against those without plentiful reflexives (note that the Lunar's Combo, containing both CTS and Feline Guard Technique, is designed to allow him to use reflexive defenses both before and after his initiative, even though FGT comes with nasty other restrictions), Solars are much more powerful in Power Combat than in Classic, both on their own merits and because they have ways to ignore many of the restrictions Power Combat (or the combat system in general) places on your behavior. This fight was a little unfair, because the Lunar could, to some extent, play the "I rely entirely on reflexive defense" game, while a fight between opponents who both have to worry about splitting their Rate between attack and defense looks very different.
 Lunar Combos are essential to their survival, and they're the Exalted type I expect to buy the most, both early and often. They've got a lot of good to great Charms, and to get an opportunity to use them without losing their reflexive defense, they have to put them in Combos. DBs get free reflexives, and everyone else gets persistents. On the good side, Lunar offensive Charms are nasty in a wide variety of ways-- something people often forget. They're very dangerous even without DBT-- with DBT, they're damn near unstoppable. -[[TheMyriadOfShades]]
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 :In this case, I think the Water Aspect could have made a better showing by moving up toward the Lunar and using Rippling Water Strike(2 motes) on the ground. It's a 10 yard radius, so it kinda compensates for the Lunars mobility. (I think I did that math right). Anyway, it would give her some chance of doing damage.
-:Yeah, Power Combat doesn't really help Sidereals. They still basicly have no soak and no ox-body, so most hits are better than ping anyway.  I'm not sure it intentionally favors [[SolarsTheMyriadOfShades/PC225/Abyssals]], other than it fixes some of their charms. They didn't tend to use split actions for defence anyway, and rate cuts off some of the worse abuses.(I attack 12 times with a Grand Daiklave!)
+:Yeah, Power Combat doesn't really help Sidereals. They still basicly have no soak and no ox-body, so most hits are better than ping anyway.  I'm not sure it intentionally favors Solars/Abyssals, other than it fixes some of their charms. They didn't tend to use split actions for defence anyway, and rate cuts off some of the worse abuses.(I attack 12 times with a Grand Daiklave!)
 -[[FlowsLikeBits]], <i>still a GREAT and educational example thought.   </i>
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 :: Oooh, you're right about Rippling Water Strike. I hadn't thought of using the Charm that way. Honestly speaking, the Water Immaculate was probably the toughest fighter in this example in a straight-up "i hit you and you defend and hit me back" back, but the Lunar was smarter than to fight like that, so the Water Immaculate should have been smart enough to think of those unorthodox tactics, as well. Although be careful-- the range on RWS is 10 feet, not 10 yards, so the Water Immaculate would have had to close within 3-4 yards.
-:: It doesn't give [[SolarsTheMyriadOfShades/PC225/Abyssals]] the game or anything. But when you literally don't have to worry about your or your opponent's initiative or Rate when planning your defense (unlike the Lunar, who knew that FGT wouldn't be enough to deal with those jade razor claws), fighting is much easier for them because they never worry about split actions for defense. Solars get a better deal-- with their fighting style, a higher Rate means more attacks emerging from that whirlwind of defenses every turn. - [[TheMyriadOfShades]]
+:: It doesn't give Solars/Abyssals the game or anything. But when you literally don't have to worry about your or your opponent's initiative or Rate when planning your defense (unlike the Lunar, who knew that FGT wouldn't be enough to deal with those jade razor claws), fighting is much easier for them because they never worry about split actions for defense. Solars get a better deal-- with their fighting style, a higher Rate means more attacks emerging from that whirlwind of defenses every turn. - [[TheMyriadOfShades]]
 :::RWS: Good point on the range. I think she'd have to knock the Lunar to -1 before going to -2 herself to have a chance, which would take some luck on her part. (Honestly, I always kinda considered this a wierdness in the system, that opponents could continually come in and stike with no chance of retaliation. I'ts most obvious with flyers. Sure, they can do it once, but then I'm ready for it. It always seems weird that you can't hold you action till the opponent attacks, across rounds). Well, sorry for the minor rant.

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 Sorry for the long comments. This was stuff I took away from it, and didn't want to forget. Seemed like it might be useful to others also.
--FlowsLikeBits, <i>thinks this should probably be required reading for combat charachters, it's way better than the core examples</i>
+-[[FlowsLikeBits]], <i>thinks this should probably be required reading for combat charachters, it's way better than the core examples</i>
 Thanks for the comments! You're right about the stunting, and it is assumed that in Exalted you regain back <i>some</i> or even a <i>lot</i> of essence via stunts.
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 In an actual fight with stunts, assuming a single one-die stunt a turn from each character, the Earth Aspect wouldn't have run out of essence so quickly, but neither would the Lunar. I expect the Earth Aspect would have immediately spent most of the essence on powering Flickering Candle Meditation to help avoid attacks, and it would have slowed his death significantly. The Lunar would have been able to rely on his Crouching Tiger Stance longer and more often. The Water Immaculate had no essence problems, and so it would not have affected her. The fight would have lasted longer, but still would have most likely ended the way it did (assuming a similar trend in rolls) because the Earth Aspect is doomed if he attacks or not. If he makes a big attack and it gets past CTS, he might drop the Lunar to -1s, but the Lunar will then flurry him right afterwards. If he splits his actions to attack, he's unlikely to get past CTS and will be forced to expend crucial actions to parry the counterattack. And if he defends, the Lunar can keep attacking all day, sneaking in ping damage whenever he rolls badly. What kills him is the low Rate of the dire lance-- he can't make enough parries to deal with the Lunar's flurries and can't split enough ways to effective attack and defend in the same round against the superior-Rate Lunar (the +5 acc on a moonsilver daiklaive didn't help).
-You made a great insight-- the Power Combat rules, with their Rate restrictions and init-holding penalty and other such fun, intentionally favor Solars/Abyssals over others. It also initially appears to favor Sidereals, but between essence=ping, the reduced defensive ratings of many weapons, and the increased accuracy ratings of many weapons, Sidereals face a real "kill your opponent quickly, get a persistent defense, or hope ItF doesn't exhasut you and get you killed" dilemna that makes them powerful, but not insane. Between the Charm revisions and the biases built into the system against those without plentiful reflexives (note that the Lunar's Combo, containing both CTS and Feline Guard Technique, is designed to allow him to use reflexive defenses both before and after his initiative, even though FGT comes with nasty other restrictions), Solars are much more powerful in Power Combat than in Classic, both on their own merits and because they have ways to ignore many of the restrictions Power Combat (or the combat system in general) places on your behavior. This fight was a little unfair, because the Lunar could, to some extent, play the "I rely entirely on reflexive defense" game, while a fight between opponents who both have to worry about splitting their Rate between attack and defense looks very different.
+You made a great insight-- the Power Combat rules, with their Rate restrictions and init-holding penalty and other such fun, intentionally favor [[SolarsTheMyriadOfShades/PC225/Abyssals]] over others. It also initially appears to favor Sidereals, but between essence=ping, the reduced defensive ratings of many weapons, and the increased accuracy ratings of many weapons, Sidereals face a real "kill your opponent quickly, get a persistent defense, or hope [[ItF]] doesn't exhasut you and get you killed" dilemna that makes them powerful, but not insane. Between the Charm revisions and the biases built into the system against those without plentiful reflexives (note that the Lunar's Combo, containing both CTS and Feline Guard Technique, is designed to allow him to use reflexive defenses both before and after his initiative, even though FGT comes with nasty other restrictions), Solars are much more powerful in Power Combat than in Classic, both on their own merits and because they have ways to ignore many of the restrictions Power Combat (or the combat system in general) places on your behavior. This fight was a little unfair, because the Lunar could, to some extent, play the "I rely entirely on reflexive defense" game, while a fight between opponents who both have to worry about splitting their Rate between attack and defense looks very different.
-Lunar Combos are essential to their survival, and they're the Exalted type I expect to buy the most, both early and often. They've got a lot of good to great Charms, and to get an opportunity to use them without losing their reflexive defense, they have to put them in Combos. DBs get free reflexives, and everyone else gets persistents. On the good side, Lunar offensive Charms are nasty in a wide variety of ways-- something people often forget. They're very dangerous even without DBT-- with DBT, they're damn near unstoppable. -TheMyriadOfShades
+Lunar Combos are essential to their survival, and they're the Exalted type I expect to buy the most, both early and often. They've got a lot of good to great Charms, and to get an opportunity to use them without losing their reflexive defense, they have to put them in Combos. DBs get free reflexives, and everyone else gets persistents. On the good side, Lunar offensive Charms are nasty in a wide variety of ways-- something people often forget. They're very dangerous even without DBT-- with DBT, they're damn near unstoppable. -[[TheMyriadOfShades]]
 :I'm a little confused about why you didn't have consistant essence regen each turn(say one two die stunt). In this case, I think it would make a huge difference, as by the time each side had managed to feel out the other, they were out of essence. This reduced the contest to the Lunars better stats and higher init. (No Essence Regen combat favors Lunars I think. They tend to have better base stats, even without DBT, so they arn't impaired that much by lack of essence. DB's seem the most dependant on Essence Regen in combat, as they want to power their reflexives in flexible ways. They don't have the Lunars natural stats or the Solar affinity for Scene length effects.) I'm not sure it would change the final outcome. But it might make the Lunar work for it a bit.
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 :In this case, I think the Water Aspect could have made a better showing by moving up toward the Lunar and using Rippling Water Strike(2 motes) on the ground. It's a 10 yard radius, so it kinda compensates for the Lunars mobility. (I think I did that math right). Anyway, it would give her some chance of doing damage.
-:Yeah, Power Combat doesn't really help Sidereals. They still basicly have no soak and no ox-body, so most hits are better than ping anyway.  I'm not sure it intentionally favors Solars/Abyssals, other than it fixes some of their charms. They didn't tend to use split actions for defence anyway, and rate cuts off some of the worse abuses.(I attack 12 times with a Grand Daiklave!)
+:Yeah, Power Combat doesn't really help Sidereals. They still basicly have no soak and no ox-body, so most hits are better than ping anyway.  I'm not sure it intentionally favors [[SolarsTheMyriadOfShades/PC225/Abyssals]], other than it fixes some of their charms. They didn't tend to use split actions for defence anyway, and rate cuts off some of the worse abuses.(I attack 12 times with a Grand Daiklave!)
--FlowsLikeBits, <i>still a GREAT and educational example thought.   </i>
+-[[FlowsLikeBits]], <i>still a GREAT and educational example thought.   </i>
 :: Having a high-accuracy moonsilver weapon and wounding the high-init DB by the time they ran out of essence is why the Lunar won-- his base stats before weaponry were actually lower than the DBs, because it's much cheaper to buy specialties (which they're loaded with) than attributes (which he's maxed on) at character Creation. The Earth Aspect had a much higher init to begin with, but as soon as he was knocked down to a -2 wound penalty, the Lunar had a much higher chance of winning initiative each turn, and since he was faster, could wait around until it happened.
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 :: Oooh, you're right about Rippling Water Strike. I hadn't thought of using the Charm that way. Honestly speaking, the Water Immaculate was probably the toughest fighter in this example in a straight-up "i hit you and you defend and hit me back" back, but the Lunar was smarter than to fight like that, so the Water Immaculate should have been smart enough to think of those unorthodox tactics, as well. Although be careful-- the range on RWS is 10 feet, not 10 yards, so the Water Immaculate would have had to close within 3-4 yards.
-:: It doesn't give Solars/Abyssals the game or anything. But when you literally don't have to worry about your or your opponent's initiative or Rate when planning your defense (unlike the Lunar, who knew that FGT wouldn't be enough to deal with those jade razor claws), fighting is much easier for them because they never worry about split actions for defense. Solars get a better deal-- with their fighting style, a higher Rate means more attacks emerging from that whirlwind of defenses every turn. - TheMyriadOfShades
+:: It doesn't give [[SolarsTheMyriadOfShades/PC225/Abyssals]] the game or anything. But when you literally don't have to worry about your or your opponent's initiative or Rate when planning your defense (unlike the Lunar, who knew that FGT wouldn't be enough to deal with those jade razor claws), fighting is much easier for them because they never worry about split actions for defense. Solars get a better deal-- with their fighting style, a higher Rate means more attacks emerging from that whirlwind of defenses every turn. - [[TheMyriadOfShades]]
 :::RWS: Good point on the range. I think she'd have to knock the Lunar to -1 before going to -2 herself to have a chance, which would take some luck on her part. (Honestly, I always kinda considered this a wierdness in the system, that opponents could continually come in and stike with no chance of retaliation. I'ts most obvious with flyers. Sure, they can do it once, but then I'm ready for it. It always seems weird that you can't hold you action till the opponent attacks, across rounds). Well, sorry for the minor rant.
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 :::For the future I'd probably make it a +2 or +4 every turn(for everyone). One could randomize for everyone each turn or have some set pattern for turns like +2/+4/+2/+4. or (+2/+2/+4/,or whatever) I think being able to get will power back is important also(as you pointed out quite well, lesson 4), and the posiblity should exist.
 :::I was a bit surprised about the Earth going with full parry in the last round. He has a base dodge pool of 10 under power combat and with the 3 die block from 5-dragon, he's probably better off overall(His base defence pool is only 1 less, and it negates the Lunars rate advantage). I admit I didn't notice that at first either. This can be complicated. Don't think it would have made a diff though.
-:::FlowsLikeBits
+:::[[FlowsLikeBits]]
 :First time posting sorry if I screw something up. I loved the example but I noticed the Lunar comboed and split his dice pool in the same turn. I thought that was against the rules. Either way thanks for the cool example. I am going to have my players look at this page so they can see the wonder and complexity of real Exalted combat.
 :Faithfull-1
-MyriadofShades, I hope you don't mind, but I am going to print this page out and make it manditory reading for all of my gamers. Even though my characters are closer to your PC450 in terms of exp and skill, this is a great example and maybe they will learn a thing or two. Thanks in advance. DragoonDrake
+[[TheMyriadOfShades]], I hope you don't mind, but I am going to print this page out and make it manditory reading for all of my gamers. Even though my characters are closer to your PC450 in terms of exp and skill, this is a great example and maybe they will learn a thing or two. Thanks in advance. [[DragoonDrake]]

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 Sorry for the long comments. This was stuff I took away from it, and didn't want to forget. Seemed like it might be useful to others also.
--FlowsLikeBits, <i>thinks this should probably be required reading for combat charachters, it's way better than the core examples</i>
+-[[FlowsLikeBits]], <i>thinks this should probably be required reading for combat charachters, it's way better than the core examples</i>
 Thanks for the comments! You're right about the stunting, and it is assumed that in Exalted you regain back <i>some</i> or even a <i>lot</i> of essence via stunts.
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 In an actual fight with stunts, assuming a single one-die stunt a turn from each character, the Earth Aspect wouldn't have run out of essence so quickly, but neither would the Lunar. I expect the Earth Aspect would have immediately spent most of the essence on powering Flickering Candle Meditation to help avoid attacks, and it would have slowed his death significantly. The Lunar would have been able to rely on his Crouching Tiger Stance longer and more often. The Water Immaculate had no essence problems, and so it would not have affected her. The fight would have lasted longer, but still would have most likely ended the way it did (assuming a similar trend in rolls) because the Earth Aspect is doomed if he attacks or not. If he makes a big attack and it gets past CTS, he might drop the Lunar to -1s, but the Lunar will then flurry him right afterwards. If he splits his actions to attack, he's unlikely to get past CTS and will be forced to expend crucial actions to parry the counterattack. And if he defends, the Lunar can keep attacking all day, sneaking in ping damage whenever he rolls badly. What kills him is the low Rate of the dire lance-- he can't make enough parries to deal with the Lunar's flurries and can't split enough ways to effective attack and defend in the same round against the superior-Rate Lunar (the +5 acc on a moonsilver daiklaive didn't help).
-You made a great insight-- the Power Combat rules, with their Rate restrictions and init-holding penalty and other such fun, intentionally favor Solars/Abyssals over others. It also initially appears to favor Sidereals, but between essence=ping, the reduced defensive ratings of many weapons, and the increased accuracy ratings of many weapons, Sidereals face a real "kill your opponent quickly, get a persistent defense, or hope ItF doesn't exhasut you and get you killed" dilemna that makes them powerful, but not insane. Between the Charm revisions and the biases built into the system against those without plentiful reflexives (note that the Lunar's Combo, containing both CTS and Feline Guard Technique, is designed to allow him to use reflexive defenses both before and after his initiative, even though FGT comes with nasty other restrictions), Solars are much more powerful in Power Combat than in Classic, both on their own merits and because they have ways to ignore many of the restrictions Power Combat (or the combat system in general) places on your behavior. This fight was a little unfair, because the Lunar could, to some extent, play the "I rely entirely on reflexive defense" game, while a fight between opponents who both have to worry about splitting their Rate between attack and defense looks very different.
+You made a great insight-- the Power Combat rules, with their Rate restrictions and init-holding penalty and other such fun, intentionally favor Solars[[/Abyssals]] over others. It also initially appears to favor Sidereals, but between essence=ping, the reduced defensive ratings of many weapons, and the increased accuracy ratings of many weapons, Sidereals face a real "kill your opponent quickly, get a persistent defense, or hope [[ItF]] doesn't exhasut you and get you killed" dilemna that makes them powerful, but not insane. Between the Charm revisions and the biases built into the system against those without plentiful reflexives (note that the Lunar's Combo, containing both CTS and Feline Guard Technique, is designed to allow him to use reflexive defenses both before and after his initiative, even though FGT comes with nasty other restrictions), Solars are much more powerful in Power Combat than in Classic, both on their own merits and because they have ways to ignore many of the restrictions Power Combat (or the combat system in general) places on your behavior. This fight was a little unfair, because the Lunar could, to some extent, play the "I rely entirely on reflexive defense" game, while a fight between opponents who both have to worry about splitting their Rate between attack and defense looks very different.
-Lunar Combos are essential to their survival, and they're the Exalted type I expect to buy the most, both early and often. They've got a lot of good to great Charms, and to get an opportunity to use them without losing their reflexive defense, they have to put them in Combos. DBs get free reflexives, and everyone else gets persistents. On the good side, Lunar offensive Charms are nasty in a wide variety of ways-- something people often forget. They're very dangerous even without DBT-- with DBT, they're damn near unstoppable. -TheMyriadOfShades
+Lunar Combos are essential to their survival, and they're the Exalted type I expect to buy the most, both early and often. They've got a lot of good to great Charms, and to get an opportunity to use them without losing their reflexive defense, they have to put them in Combos. DBs get free reflexives, and everyone else gets persistents. On the good side, Lunar offensive Charms are nasty in a wide variety of ways-- something people often forget. They're very dangerous even without DBT-- with DBT, they're damn near unstoppable. -[[TheMyriadOfShades]]
 :I'm a little confused about why you didn't have consistant essence regen each turn(say one two die stunt). In this case, I think it would make a huge difference, as by the time each side had managed to feel out the other, they were out of essence. This reduced the contest to the Lunars better stats and higher init. (No Essence Regen combat favors Lunars I think. They tend to have better base stats, even without DBT, so they arn't impaired that much by lack of essence. DB's seem the most dependant on Essence Regen in combat, as they want to power their reflexives in flexible ways. They don't have the Lunars natural stats or the Solar affinity for Scene length effects.) I'm not sure it would change the final outcome. But it might make the Lunar work for it a bit.
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 :In this case, I think the Water Aspect could have made a better showing by moving up toward the Lunar and using Rippling Water Strike(2 motes) on the ground. It's a 10 yard radius, so it kinda compensates for the Lunars mobility. (I think I did that math right). Anyway, it would give her some chance of doing damage.
-:Yeah, Power Combat doesn't really help Sidereals. They still basicly have no soak and no ox-body, so most hits are better than ping anyway.  I'm not sure it intentionally favors Solars/Abyssals, other than it fixes some of their charms. They didn't tend to use split actions for defence anyway, and rate cuts off some of the worse abuses.(I attack 12 times with a Grand Daiklave!)
+:Yeah, Power Combat doesn't really help Sidereals. They still basicly have no soak and no ox-body, so most hits are better than ping anyway.  I'm not sure it intentionally favors Solars[[/Abyssals]], other than it fixes some of their charms. They didn't tend to use split actions for defence anyway, and rate cuts off some of the worse abuses.(I attack 12 times with a Grand Daiklave!)
--FlowsLikeBits, <i>still a GREAT and educational example thought.   </i>
+-[[FlowsLikeBits]], <i>still a GREAT and educational example thought.   </i>
 :: Having a high-accuracy moonsilver weapon and wounding the high-init DB by the time they ran out of essence is why the Lunar won-- his base stats before weaponry were actually lower than the DBs, because it's much cheaper to buy specialties (which they're loaded with) than attributes (which he's maxed on) at character Creation. The Earth Aspect had a much higher init to begin with, but as soon as he was knocked down to a -2 wound penalty, the Lunar had a much higher chance of winning initiative each turn, and since he was faster, could wait around until it happened.
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 :: Oooh, you're right about Rippling Water Strike. I hadn't thought of using the Charm that way. Honestly speaking, the Water Immaculate was probably the toughest fighter in this example in a straight-up "i hit you and you defend and hit me back" back, but the Lunar was smarter than to fight like that, so the Water Immaculate should have been smart enough to think of those unorthodox tactics, as well. Although be careful-- the range on RWS is 10 feet, not 10 yards, so the Water Immaculate would have had to close within 3-4 yards.
-:: It doesn't give Solars/Abyssals the game or anything. But when you literally don't have to worry about your or your opponent's initiative or Rate when planning your defense (unlike the Lunar, who knew that FGT wouldn't be enough to deal with those jade razor claws), fighting is much easier for them because they never worry about split actions for defense. Solars get a better deal-- with their fighting style, a higher Rate means more attacks emerging from that whirlwind of defenses every turn. - TheMyriadOfShades
+:: It doesn't give Solars[[/Abyssals]] the game or anything. But when you literally don't have to worry about your or your opponent's initiative or Rate when planning your defense (unlike the Lunar, who knew that FGT wouldn't be enough to deal with those jade razor claws), fighting is much easier for them because they never worry about split actions for defense. Solars get a better deal-- with their fighting style, a higher Rate means more attacks emerging from that whirlwind of defenses every turn. - [[TheMyriadOfShades]]
 :::RWS: Good point on the range. I think she'd have to knock the Lunar to -1 before going to -2 herself to have a chance, which would take some luck on her part. (Honestly, I always kinda considered this a wierdness in the system, that opponents could continually come in and stike with no chance of retaliation. I'ts most obvious with flyers. Sure, they can do it once, but then I'm ready for it. It always seems weird that you can't hold you action till the opponent attacks, across rounds). Well, sorry for the minor rant.
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 :::For the future I'd probably make it a +2 or +4 every turn(for everyone). One could randomize for everyone each turn or have some set pattern for turns like +2/+4/+2/+4. or (+2/+2/+4/,or whatever) I think being able to get will power back is important also(as you pointed out quite well, lesson 4), and the posiblity should exist.
 :::I was a bit surprised about the Earth going with full parry in the last round. He has a base dodge pool of 10 under power combat and with the 3 die block from 5-dragon, he's probably better off overall(His base defence pool is only 1 less, and it negates the Lunars rate advantage). I admit I didn't notice that at first either. This can be complicated. Don't think it would have made a diff though.
-:::FlowsLikeBits
+:::[[FlowsLikeBits]]
 :First time posting sorry if I screw something up. I loved the example but I noticed the Lunar comboed and split his dice pool in the same turn. I thought that was against the rules. Either way thanks for the cool example. I am going to have my players look at this page so they can see the wonder and complexity of real Exalted combat.
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-TheMyriadOfShades, I hope you don't mind, but I am going to print this page out and make it manditory reading for all of my gamers. Even though my characters are closer to your PC450 in terms of exp and skill, this is a great example and maybe they will learn a thing or two. Thanks in advance. DragoonDrake
+[[TheMyriadOfShades]], I hope you don't mind, but I am going to print this page out and make it manditory reading for all of my gamers. Even though my characters are closer to your PC450 in terms of exp and skill, this is a great example and maybe they will learn a thing or two. Thanks in advance. [[DragoonDrake]]

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	:First time posting sorry if I screw something up. I loved the example but I noticed the Lunar comboed and split his dice pool in the same turn. I thought that was against the rules. Either way thanks for the cool example. I am going to have my players look at this page so they can see the wonder and complexity of real Exalted combat.		:First time posting sorry if I screw something up. I loved the example but I noticed the Lunar comboed and split his dice pool in the same turn. I thought that was against the rules. Either way thanks for the cool example. I am going to have my players look at this page so they can see the wonder and complexity of real Exalted combat.
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		+	MyriadofShades, I hope you don't mind, but I am going to print this page out and make it manditory reading for all of my gamers. Even though my characters are closer to your PC450 in terms of exp and skill, this is a great example and maybe they will learn a thing or two. Thanks in advance. DragoonDrake