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 == an extensive revision of Social Combat for Exalted 2nd Edition ==
-NOTE:  Bazzalisk (aka Pip on rpg.net) has made a much easier to read, modified version of this system.  It can be found at [[http://qt.bazzalisk.org/index.php?title=Exalted_Revised_Social_Conflict Bazzalisk's Social Conflict Revision]].
+NOTE:  Bazzalisk (aka Pip on rpg.net) has made a much easier to read, modified version of this system.  It can be found at [[http:/index.php?title=Exalted_Revised_Social_Conflict Bazzalisk's Social Conflict Revision]].
-Please use [[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=340664 THIS THREAD]] on rpg.net for comments - thanks!
+Please use [[http:/showthread.php?t=340664 THIS THREAD]] on rpg.net for comments - thanks!
 = SOCIAL CONFLICT 1.0 =
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 Links:
-[[http://wiki.white-wolf.com/exalted/index.php/Tickless_Social_Combat Democritus' Tickless Social Combat]]
+[[http:/Tickless_Social_Combat Democritus' Tickless Social Combat]]
-[[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=327007 Similarian's Social Combat Revision]]
+[[http:/showthread.php?t=327007 Similarian's Social Combat Revision]]
 ''Democritus and Similarian have graciously given permission for their material to be reproduced and modified here.''
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 If the two are based on different Virtues, then Virtue channels may be both gained and lost.  For example, the character may have the Intimacy: Chaste (Temperance) and be suffering from an Emotion: Lust (Compassion).  If he refrains from participating in the ongoing Cynis orgy, he may gain a Temperance channel but must lose a Compassion channel.  If he indulges, then vice versa.
-However, if the two are based on the same Virtue, then the relative strengths of the Intimacies/ Influences come into play.  Treat the strength of each as a dice pool; roll that number of dice for each in an opposed test.  Whichever gets more successes is the [[IntimacyStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Influence]] which has the effect on Virtue Channels.  Note that the player must decide which way to act before rolling the dice to see what happens to his Virtue Channels.
+However, if the two are based on the same Virtue, then the relative strengths of the Intimacies/ Influences come into play.  Treat the strength of each as a dice pool; roll that number of dice for each in an opposed test.  Whichever gets more successes is the [[IntimacyStrangelooper/Influence]] which has the effect on Virtue Channels.  Note that the player must decide which way to act before rolling the dice to see what happens to his Virtue Channels.
-Regardless of the outcome of the roll, the Strength of each of the conflicting [[IntimaciesStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Influences]] is affected as normal by the character’s chosen actions (ie acting against it will reduce its strength by 1, and acting in accordance with it may increase it’s strength by 1).  Also, if the character acts against an overwhelming Influence, he accrues a point of Limit regardless of the outcome of the opposed roll.   The opposed roll only determines whether the character gains or loses a Virtue channel as a result of his conflict.
+Regardless of the outcome of the roll, the Strength of each of the conflicting [[IntimaciesStrangelooper/Influences]] is affected as normal by the character’s chosen actions (ie acting against it will reduce its strength by 1, and acting in accordance with it may increase it’s strength by 1).  Also, if the character acts against an overwhelming Influence, he accrues a point of Limit regardless of the outcome of the opposed roll.   The opposed roll only determines whether the character gains or loses a Virtue channel as a result of his conflict.
 For example:  A monk with Conviction 3 has the belief: Immaculate Philosophy (Conviction) at strength 2.  However, a persuasive Eclipse has instilled the belief: Worship the Unconquered Sun (Conviction) at strength 4.  This is an Overwhelming Influence, as it is higher than the monk’s rating in the Virtue.  The Eclipse asks the monk to join him in prayer to the Unconquered Sun.
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 A character should not attempt to Hold The Floor after a successful Investigation attack, or the target will be unable to answer and the attack will have been wasted.
-'''[[MonologueStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Study]]''' (0 Composure, MDV –1).
+'''[[MonologueStrangelooper/Study]]''' (0 Composure, MDV –1).
 This action may only be taken by the speaker.  This is similar to the “Aim” action in physical combat.  The speaker tells a story, makes a digression, relates an anecdote, etc. with the goal of supporting his eventual Social Attack.  This action applies a –1 MDV penalty to the speaker, but grants an extra die on a subsequent Social Attack.  If the speaker loses The Floor before he gets a chance to make his Attack, then the bonus die is lost, but the MDV penalty remains.
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 ||Normal||Obvious ideas||Common knowledge|| - ||-1||
 ||Unusual||Lust / like, Plausible Idea, Inconsequential Duty or Taboo||Intimacy, Strong Virtue||-||0||
-||Inappropriate||Dislike / respect, Inconvenient Duty or Taboo||Gossip||[[LaudableStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Expected]]||+1||
+||Inappropriate||Dislike / respect, Inconvenient Duty or Taboo||Gossip||[[LaudableStrangelooper/Expected]]||+1||
 ||Dangerous||Unusual idea, Onerous Duty or Taboo||Confidential information||Normal||+2||
 || - ||Love / hate, Dangerous / silly idea, Dangerous Duty or Taboo||Motivation, Dangerous information||Inappropriate||+4||
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 ) Declare the target character, in the case of Presence and Investigation attacks.
 ) Decide whether a Presence or Performance attack seeks to instill and Emotion, Intimacy, or a Compulsion.  Investigation attacks are always Compulsions.
-) Calculate Attack Dice Pool (Charisma or Manipulation  + Performance or Presence or Investigation), + bonuses for stunts, Charms, channeling Virtues for dice, and prior [[MonologueStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Study]] actions.
+) Calculate Attack Dice Pool (Charisma or Manipulation  + Performance or Presence or Investigation), + bonuses for stunts, Charms, channeling Virtues for dice, and prior [[MonologueStrangelooper/Study]] actions.
 ) Calculate MDV: either Dodge MDV, or any Parry MDV that uses the same attribute as that used in the attack.  Apply MDV modifiers for personality, multiple attempts, and situational modifiers.  Excellencies and some other Charms with the “Social” keyword may be used to enhance MDV
 ) Roll dice = Attack Dice Pool.  Add any automatic successes from Excellencies or other Charms.  Compare to the defender’s chosen MDV.  If successes > MDV, the attack is successful; (successes – MDV) = extra successes.  Attacks that are not successful have no effect.
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-Please use [[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=340664| THIS THREAD]] on rpg.net for comments - thanks!
+Please use [[http:/showthread.php?t=340664|THIS THREAD]] on rpg.net for comments - thanks!

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 == an extensive revision of Social Combat for Exalted 2nd Edition ==
-NOTE:  Pip (aka Bazilisk) has made a much easier to read, modified version of this system.  It can be found at [[http://qt.bazzalisk.org/index.php?title=Exalted_Revised_Social_Conflict Pip's Social Conflict Revision]].
+NOTE:  Bazzalisk (aka Pip on rpg.net) has made a much easier to read, modified version of this system.  It can be found at [[http://qt.bazzalisk.org/index.php?title=Exalted_Revised_Social_Conflict Bazzalisk's Social Conflict Revision]].
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 If the two are based on different Virtues, then Virtue channels may be both gained and lost.  For example, the character may have the Intimacy: Chaste (Temperance) and be suffering from an Emotion: Lust (Compassion).  If he refrains from participating in the ongoing Cynis orgy, he may gain a Temperance channel but must lose a Compassion channel.  If he indulges, then vice versa.
-However, if the two are based on the same Virtue, then the relative strengths of the Intimacies/ Influences come into play.  Treat the strength of each as a dice pool; roll that number of dice for each in an opposed test.  Whichever gets more successes is the Intimacy/Influence which has the effect on Virtue Channels.  Note that the player must decide which way to act before rolling the dice to see what happens to his Virtue Channels.
+However, if the two are based on the same Virtue, then the relative strengths of the Intimacies/ Influences come into play.  Treat the strength of each as a dice pool; roll that number of dice for each in an opposed test.  Whichever gets more successes is the [[IntimacyStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Influence]] which has the effect on Virtue Channels.  Note that the player must decide which way to act before rolling the dice to see what happens to his Virtue Channels.
-Regardless of the outcome of the roll, the Strength of each of the conflicting Intimacies/Influences is affected as normal by the character’s chosen actions (ie acting against it will reduce its strength by 1, and acting in accordance with it may increase it’s strength by 1).  Also, if the character acts against an overwhelming Influence, he accrues a point of Limit regardless of the outcome of the opposed roll.   The opposed roll only determines whether the character gains or loses a Virtue channel as a result of his conflict.
+Regardless of the outcome of the roll, the Strength of each of the conflicting [[IntimaciesStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Influences]] is affected as normal by the character’s chosen actions (ie acting against it will reduce its strength by 1, and acting in accordance with it may increase it’s strength by 1).  Also, if the character acts against an overwhelming Influence, he accrues a point of Limit regardless of the outcome of the opposed roll.   The opposed roll only determines whether the character gains or loses a Virtue channel as a result of his conflict.
 For example:  A monk with Conviction 3 has the belief: Immaculate Philosophy (Conviction) at strength 2.  However, a persuasive Eclipse has instilled the belief: Worship the Unconquered Sun (Conviction) at strength 4.  This is an Overwhelming Influence, as it is higher than the monk’s rating in the Virtue.  The Eclipse asks the monk to join him in prayer to the Unconquered Sun.
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 A character should not attempt to Hold The Floor after a successful Investigation attack, or the target will be unable to answer and the attack will have been wasted.
-'''Monologue/Study''' (0 Composure, MDV –1).
+'''[[MonologueStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Study]]''' (0 Composure, MDV –1).
 This action may only be taken by the speaker.  This is similar to the “Aim” action in physical combat.  The speaker tells a story, makes a digression, relates an anecdote, etc. with the goal of supporting his eventual Social Attack.  This action applies a –1 MDV penalty to the speaker, but grants an extra die on a subsequent Social Attack.  If the speaker loses The Floor before he gets a chance to make his Attack, then the bonus die is lost, but the MDV penalty remains.
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 ||Normal||Obvious ideas||Common knowledge|| - ||-1||
 ||Unusual||Lust / like, Plausible Idea, Inconsequential Duty or Taboo||Intimacy, Strong Virtue||-||0||
-||Inappropriate||Dislike / respect, Inconvenient Duty or Taboo||Gossip||Laudable/Expected||+1||
+||Inappropriate||Dislike / respect, Inconvenient Duty or Taboo||Gossip||[[LaudableStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Expected]]||+1||
 ||Dangerous||Unusual idea, Onerous Duty or Taboo||Confidential information||Normal||+2||
 || - ||Love / hate, Dangerous / silly idea, Dangerous Duty or Taboo||Motivation, Dangerous information||Inappropriate||+4||
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 ) Declare the target character, in the case of Presence and Investigation attacks.
 ) Decide whether a Presence or Performance attack seeks to instill and Emotion, Intimacy, or a Compulsion.  Investigation attacks are always Compulsions.
-) Calculate Attack Dice Pool (Charisma or Manipulation  + Performance or Presence or Investigation), + bonuses for stunts, Charms, channeling Virtues for dice, and prior Monologue/Study actions.
+) Calculate Attack Dice Pool (Charisma or Manipulation  + Performance or Presence or Investigation), + bonuses for stunts, Charms, channeling Virtues for dice, and prior [[MonologueStrangelooper/SocialConflict/Study]] actions.
 ) Calculate MDV: either Dodge MDV, or any Parry MDV that uses the same attribute as that used in the attack.  Apply MDV modifiers for personality, multiple attempts, and situational modifiers.  Excellencies and some other Charms with the “Social” keyword may be used to enhance MDV
 ) Roll dice = Attack Dice Pool.  Add any automatic successes from Excellencies or other Charms.  Compare to the defender’s chosen MDV.  If successes > MDV, the attack is successful; (successes – MDV) = extra successes.  Attacks that are not successful have no effect.

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 If the two are based on different Virtues, then Virtue channels may be both gained and lost.  For example, the character may have the Intimacy: Chaste (Temperance) and be suffering from an Emotion: Lust (Compassion).  If he refrains from participating in the ongoing Cynis orgy, he may gain a Temperance channel but must lose a Compassion channel.  If he indulges, then vice versa.
-However, if the two are based on the same Virtue, then the relative strengths of the Intimacies/ Influences come into play.  Treat the strength of each as a dice pool; roll that number of dice for each in an opposed test.  Whichever gets more successes is the Intimacy/Influence which has the effect on Virtue Channels.  Note that the player must decide which way to act before rolling the dice to see what happens to his Virtue Channels.
+However, if the two are based on the same Virtue, then the relative strengths of the Intimacies/ Influences come into play.  Treat the strength of each as a dice pool; roll that number of dice for each in an opposed test.  Whichever gets more successes is the Intimacy[[/Influence]] which has the effect on Virtue Channels.  Note that the player must decide which way to act before rolling the dice to see what happens to his Virtue Channels.
-Regardless of the outcome of the roll, the Strength of each of the conflicting Intimacies/Influences is affected as normal by the character’s chosen actions (ie acting against it will reduce its strength by 1, and acting in accordance with it may increase it’s strength by 1).  Also, if the character acts against an overwhelming Influence, he accrues a point of Limit regardless of the outcome of the opposed roll.   The opposed roll only determines whether the character gains or loses a Virtue channel as a result of his conflict.
+Regardless of the outcome of the roll, the Strength of each of the conflicting Intimacies[[/Influences]] is affected as normal by the character’s chosen actions (ie acting against it will reduce its strength by 1, and acting in accordance with it may increase it’s strength by 1).  Also, if the character acts against an overwhelming Influence, he accrues a point of Limit regardless of the outcome of the opposed roll.   The opposed roll only determines whether the character gains or loses a Virtue channel as a result of his conflict.
 For example:  A monk with Conviction 3 has the belief: Immaculate Philosophy (Conviction) at strength 2.  However, a persuasive Eclipse has instilled the belief: Worship the Unconquered Sun (Conviction) at strength 4.  This is an Overwhelming Influence, as it is higher than the monk’s rating in the Virtue.  The Eclipse asks the monk to join him in prayer to the Unconquered Sun.
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 A character should not attempt to Hold The Floor after a successful Investigation attack, or the target will be unable to answer and the attack will have been wasted.
-'''Monologue/Study''' (0 Composure, MDV –1).
+'''Monologue[[/Study]]''' (0 Composure, MDV –1).
 This action may only be taken by the speaker.  This is similar to the “Aim” action in physical combat.  The speaker tells a story, makes a digression, relates an anecdote, etc. with the goal of supporting his eventual Social Attack.  This action applies a –1 MDV penalty to the speaker, but grants an extra die on a subsequent Social Attack.  If the speaker loses The Floor before he gets a chance to make his Attack, then the bonus die is lost, but the MDV penalty remains.
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 ||Normal||Obvious ideas||Common knowledge|| - ||-1||
 ||Unusual||Lust / like, Plausible Idea, Inconsequential Duty or Taboo||Intimacy, Strong Virtue||-||0||
-||Inappropriate||Dislike / respect, Inconvenient Duty or Taboo||Gossip||Laudable/Expected||+1||
+||Inappropriate||Dislike / respect, Inconvenient Duty or Taboo||Gossip||Laudable[[/Expected]]||+1||
 ||Dangerous||Unusual idea, Onerous Duty or Taboo||Confidential information||Normal||+2||
 || - ||Love / hate, Dangerous / silly idea, Dangerous Duty or Taboo||Motivation, Dangerous information||Inappropriate||+4||
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 ) Declare the target character, in the case of Presence and Investigation attacks.
 ) Decide whether a Presence or Performance attack seeks to instill and Emotion, Intimacy, or a Compulsion.  Investigation attacks are always Compulsions.
-) Calculate Attack Dice Pool (Charisma or Manipulation  + Performance or Presence or Investigation), + bonuses for stunts, Charms, channeling Virtues for dice, and prior Monologue/Study actions.
+) Calculate Attack Dice Pool (Charisma or Manipulation  + Performance or Presence or Investigation), + bonuses for stunts, Charms, channeling Virtues for dice, and prior Monologue[[/Study]] actions.
 ) Calculate MDV: either Dodge MDV, or any Parry MDV that uses the same attribute as that used in the attack.  Apply MDV modifiers for personality, multiple attempts, and situational modifiers.  Excellencies and some other Charms with the “Social” keyword may be used to enhance MDV
 ) Roll dice = Attack Dice Pool.  Add any automatic successes from Excellencies or other Charms.  Compare to the defender’s chosen MDV.  If successes > MDV, the attack is successful; (successes – MDV) = extra successes.  Attacks that are not successful have no effect.

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 == an extensive revision of Social Combat for Exalted 2nd Edition ==
-NOTE:  Pip (aka Bazilisk) has made a much easier to read, modified version of this system.  It can be found at [[http://qt.bazzalisk.org/index.php?title=Exalted_Revised_Social_Conflict|| Pip's Social Conflict Revision]].
+NOTE:  Pip (aka Bazilisk) has made a much easier to read, modified version of this system.  It can be found at [[http://qt.bazzalisk.org/index.php?title=Exalted_Revised_Social_Conflict Pip's Social Conflict Revision]].
-Please use [[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=340664|| THIS THREAD]] on rpg.net for comments - thanks!
+Please use [[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=340664 THIS THREAD]] on rpg.net for comments - thanks!
 = SOCIAL CONFLICT 1.0 =

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 == an extensive revision of Social Combat for Exalted 2nd Edition ==
-NOTE:  Bazzalisk (aka Pip on rpg.net) has made a much easier to read, modified version of this system.  It can be found at [[http://qt.bazzalisk.org/index.php?title=Exalted_Revised_Social_Conflict Bazzalisk's Social Conflict Revision]].
+NOTE:  Pip (aka Bazilisk) has made a much easier to read, modified version of this system.  It can be found at [[http://qt.bazzalisk.org/index.php?title=Exalted_Revised_Social_Conflict|| Pip's Social Conflict Revision]].
-Please use [[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=340664 THIS THREAD]] on rpg.net for comments - thanks!
+Please use [[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=340664|| THIS THREAD]] on rpg.net for comments - thanks!
 = SOCIAL CONFLICT 1.0 =
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 If the two are based on different Virtues, then Virtue channels may be both gained and lost.  For example, the character may have the Intimacy: Chaste (Temperance) and be suffering from an Emotion: Lust (Compassion).  If he refrains from participating in the ongoing Cynis orgy, he may gain a Temperance channel but must lose a Compassion channel.  If he indulges, then vice versa.
-However, if the two are based on the same Virtue, then the relative strengths of the Intimacies/ Influences come into play.  Treat the strength of each as a dice pool; roll that number of dice for each in an opposed test.  Whichever gets more successes is the Intimacy[[/Influence]] which has the effect on Virtue Channels.  Note that the player must decide which way to act before rolling the dice to see what happens to his Virtue Channels.
+However, if the two are based on the same Virtue, then the relative strengths of the Intimacies/ Influences come into play.  Treat the strength of each as a dice pool; roll that number of dice for each in an opposed test.  Whichever gets more successes is the Intimacy/Influence which has the effect on Virtue Channels.  Note that the player must decide which way to act before rolling the dice to see what happens to his Virtue Channels.
-Regardless of the outcome of the roll, the Strength of each of the conflicting Intimacies[[/Influences]] is affected as normal by the character’s chosen actions (ie acting against it will reduce its strength by 1, and acting in accordance with it may increase it’s strength by 1).  Also, if the character acts against an overwhelming Influence, he accrues a point of Limit regardless of the outcome of the opposed roll.   The opposed roll only determines whether the character gains or loses a Virtue channel as a result of his conflict.
+Regardless of the outcome of the roll, the Strength of each of the conflicting Intimacies/Influences is affected as normal by the character’s chosen actions (ie acting against it will reduce its strength by 1, and acting in accordance with it may increase it’s strength by 1).  Also, if the character acts against an overwhelming Influence, he accrues a point of Limit regardless of the outcome of the opposed roll.   The opposed roll only determines whether the character gains or loses a Virtue channel as a result of his conflict.
 For example:  A monk with Conviction 3 has the belief: Immaculate Philosophy (Conviction) at strength 2.  However, a persuasive Eclipse has instilled the belief: Worship the Unconquered Sun (Conviction) at strength 4.  This is an Overwhelming Influence, as it is higher than the monk’s rating in the Virtue.  The Eclipse asks the monk to join him in prayer to the Unconquered Sun.
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 A character should not attempt to Hold The Floor after a successful Investigation attack, or the target will be unable to answer and the attack will have been wasted.
-'''Monologue[[/Study]]''' (0 Composure, MDV –1).
+'''Monologue/Study''' (0 Composure, MDV –1).
 This action may only be taken by the speaker.  This is similar to the “Aim” action in physical combat.  The speaker tells a story, makes a digression, relates an anecdote, etc. with the goal of supporting his eventual Social Attack.  This action applies a –1 MDV penalty to the speaker, but grants an extra die on a subsequent Social Attack.  If the speaker loses The Floor before he gets a chance to make his Attack, then the bonus die is lost, but the MDV penalty remains.
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 ||Normal||Obvious ideas||Common knowledge|| - ||-1||
 ||Unusual||Lust / like, Plausible Idea, Inconsequential Duty or Taboo||Intimacy, Strong Virtue||-||0||
-||Inappropriate||Dislike / respect, Inconvenient Duty or Taboo||Gossip||Laudable[[/Expected]]||+1||
+||Inappropriate||Dislike / respect, Inconvenient Duty or Taboo||Gossip||Laudable/Expected||+1||
 ||Dangerous||Unusual idea, Onerous Duty or Taboo||Confidential information||Normal||+2||
 || - ||Love / hate, Dangerous / silly idea, Dangerous Duty or Taboo||Motivation, Dangerous information||Inappropriate||+4||
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 ) Declare the target character, in the case of Presence and Investigation attacks.
 ) Decide whether a Presence or Performance attack seeks to instill and Emotion, Intimacy, or a Compulsion.  Investigation attacks are always Compulsions.
-) Calculate Attack Dice Pool (Charisma or Manipulation  + Performance or Presence or Investigation), + bonuses for stunts, Charms, channeling Virtues for dice, and prior Monologue[[/Study]] actions.
+) Calculate Attack Dice Pool (Charisma or Manipulation  + Performance or Presence or Investigation), + bonuses for stunts, Charms, channeling Virtues for dice, and prior Monologue/Study actions.
 ) Calculate MDV: either Dodge MDV, or any Parry MDV that uses the same attribute as that used in the attack.  Apply MDV modifiers for personality, multiple attempts, and situational modifiers.  Excellencies and some other Charms with the “Social” keyword may be used to enhance MDV
 ) Roll dice = Attack Dice Pool.  Add any automatic successes from Excellencies or other Charms.  Compare to the defender’s chosen MDV.  If successes > MDV, the attack is successful; (successes – MDV) = extra successes.  Attacks that are not successful have no effect.