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== New Starvation Rules (2e): ==

On p.129 are rules for starvation that kill the average human being on day 4 of a hunger strike, and kill even Essence 10 Stamina 10 Resitance 10 characters on day 31. This may be intended as a feature of the rules, but it means virtually no one can go without food as long as many, many people in real life have. Gandhi went 21 days without food in 1924; was he an Essence 7 Exalt? No wonder they called him Mahatma (Great Soul).

Instead, let's go with the following rule:

"Characters can go a number of days equal to half their (Stamina + Resistance) total (rounded up) without penalty, at which point they get a flat -2 internal hunger penalty to all rolls, representing the basic level of the body demanding food. Additionally, they take an unsoakable lethal health level after a number of days without food equal to ([Stamina + Resistance]/2 + Essence + 5 + Current Wound Penalty) days, rounded up; they die on the day without food after being Incapacitated."

So, as a example, an otherwise-uninjured normal human with a Stamina of 2 and a Resistance score of 0 would take a lethal damage level on day 7 ([2+0]/2 + 1 + 5 + -0 days, the -0 level gets marked), 14 ([2+0]/2 + 1 + 5 + -0 additional days, the first -1 level), 20 ([2+0]/2 + 1 + 5 + -1 more, 2nd -1), 26 ([2+0]/2 + 1 + 5 + -1, 1st -2), 31 ([2+0]/2 + 1 + 5 + -2, 2nd -2), 36 ([2+0]/2 + 1 + 5 + -2, level -4), and 39 ([2+0]/2 + 1 + 5 + -4, Incap), dying on day 40.

Alternatively, an Essence 2, Stamina 5 Resistance 5 Solar with one level of Ox-Body Technique (-1/-1) would take a lethal damage level on day 12 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -0, the -0 level gets marked), day 24 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -0, the first -1 level), day 35 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -1, second -1 marked), day 46 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -1, third [Ox-Body] -1 marked), day 57 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -1, fourth -1 marked), day 68 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -1, first -2 marked), day 78 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -2, second -2 marked), day 88 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -2, -4 marked), day 96 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -4, Incap marked), dying on day 97.

===== Starvation Comments: =====
Ahhh, too many numbers! I'd never noticed that part of the rules though. I'll have a look at that. Don't you think 40 days without food is a little much for a stamina 2 resistance only mortal though? <br> -- [[Darloth]]

:Yeah, lot of numbers; it's probably too complicated for a rule that'd ever get published for Exalted, but I was going for something that closely reflected real-world numbers. The real-world sources I've checked universally suggest between 40 and 60 days for the typical person; the formula gives 40 days to a pretty average person, and 68 days for a Stamina 5 / Resistance 5 heroic mortal. (That may actually deserve a bit of bumping given things like the 94-day 1920 Cork Prison hunger strike listed in the Guiness Book, but I don't know if/how they may have supplemented themselves.) -- [[See]]

It's technically fairly accurate, given a healthy individual with a sensible body fat ratio, in an accomodating climate, without undue physical stress. Typically, you're looking at severe systematic damage after around three weeks, and death between a month and (at most) two months...DeathBySurfeit<i>, dimly recalling biochemistry lectures</i>

== Monthly Average and Record Temperatures ==
I assumed somewhere in the Blessed Isle climactically similar to Des Moines (which seems fair, given the regional temperatures for the southern North, the northern South, and the size of the Isle), then took the Des Moines temperature data and adjusted it to fit the Creation year as described on p.26, to get this table of monthly average highs, average lows, record highs, and record lows (all in Farenheit).

|| Season || Month || Average High || Average Low || Record High || Record Low ||
|| Air || Ascending || 79.9 || 59.1 || 108 || 28 ||
|| Air || Resplendent || 64.3 || 42.7 || 99 || -4 ||
|| Air || Descending || 40.3 || 19.5 || 76 || -22 ||
|| Water || Ascending || 28.1 || 10.7 || 65 || -24 ||
|| Water || Resplendent || 33.7 || 15.5 || 73 || -26 ||
|| Water || Descending || 46.9 || 27.6 || 91 || -22 ||
|| Earth || Ascending || 61.8 || 40.0 || 93 || 9 ||
|| Earth || Resplendent || 73.0 || 51.5 || 98 || 30 ||
|| Earth || Descending || 82.2 || 61.2 || 103 || 41 ||
|| Wood || Ascending || 83.8 || 63.0 || 104 || 44 ||
|| Wood || Resplendent || 85.0 || 64.5 || 105 || 47 ||
|| Wood || Descending || 86.2 || 65.9 || 105 || 50 ||
|| Fire || Ascending || 86.7 || 66.5 || 106 || 54 ||
|| Fire || Resplendent || 86.8 || 66.6 || 107 || 57 ||
|| Fire || Descending || 86.9 || 66.7 || 108 || 61 ||

===== Temperature Comments: =====

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2006-05-26T13:48:42Z

Commentary response

DeathBySurfeit: Numbers add up pretty well!

2006-05-25T00:23:26Z

Numbers add up pretty well!

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+== New Starvation Rules (2e): ==
 On p.129 are rules for starvation that kill the average human being on day 4 of a hunger strike, and kill even Essence 10 Stamina 10 Resitance 10 characters on day 31.  This may be intended as a feature of the rules, but it means virtually no one can go without food as long as many, many people in real life have.  Gandhi went 21 days without food in 1924; was he an Essence 7 Exalt?  No wonder they called him Mahatma (Great Soul).
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 Alternatively, an Essence 2, Stamina 5 Resistance 5 Solar with one level of Ox-Body Technique (-1/-1) would take a lethal damage level on day 12 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -0, the -0 level gets marked), day 24 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -0, the first -1 level), day 35 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -1, second -1 marked), day 46 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -1, third [Ox-Body] -1 marked), day 57 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -1, fourth -1 marked), day 68 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -1, first -2 marked), day 78 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -2, second -2 marked), day 88 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -2, -4 marked), day 96 ([5+5]/2 + 2 + 5 + -4, Incap marked), dying on day 97.
-===== Comments: =====
+===== Starvation Comments: =====
 Ahhh, too many numbers! I'd never noticed that part of the rules though. I'll have a look at that. Don't you think 40 days without food is a little much for a stamina 2 resistance only mortal though? <br> -- [[Darloth]]
 :Yeah, lot of numbers; it's probably too complicated for a rule that'd ever get published for Exalted, but I was going for something that closely reflected real-world numbers.  The real-world sources I've checked universally suggest between 40 and 60 days for the typical person; the formula gives 40 days to a pretty average person, and 68 days for a Stamina 5 / Resistance 5 heroic mortal.  (That may actually deserve a bit of bumping given things like the 94-day 1920 Cork Prison hunger strike listed in the Guiness Book, but I don't know if/how they may have supplemented themselves.) -- [[See]]
-It's technically fairly accurate, given a healthy individual with a sensible body fat ratio, in an accomodating climate, without undue physical stress. Typically, you're looking at severe systematic damage after around three weeks, and death between a month and (at most) two months...DeathBySurfeit<i>, dimly recalling biochemistry lectures</i>
+It's technically fairly accurate, given a healthy individual with a sensible body fat ratio, in an accomodating climate, without undue physical stress. Typically, you're looking at severe systematic damage after around three weeks, and death between a month and (at most) two months...[[DeathBySurfeit]]<i>, dimly recalling biochemistry lectures</i>