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Pokemon have six basic stats. HP, Attack, Defense, Speed, Special Attack, Special Defense. Attack and Defense are used for battling with physical moves, while Special Attack and Special Defense are used for battling with special moves; Speed is used basically for determining initiative, and HP is, of course, health itself. I did my best to break things down in the spirit in which they were intended, and I'm going to show all my work here because I'm sure that somewhere, someone has come up with their own Pokemon.

Exalted base stats
Pokemon: Pokexalted Pokemon base stats Str 1-14
HP: HL HP 1-255 Sta 1-14
Att: Str\Dmg (assumed B), Brawl Att 5-180 Dex 2-4
Def: Sta\Soak, Temperance Def 5-230 Willpower 2-5
Spd: Dodge, Dex Spd 5-180 HL 2-14
Sp.A: Presence, Conviction Sp.A 10-180 Spd 2-6
Sp.D: Willpower, Valor Sp.D 20-230 Atk 4-9
Dmg 1-14L
Dodge 0-8
Soak none-12B/6L

I wanted Pokémon to be relatively powerful compared to the standard critters, with room to grow - but not constantly overshadowing Exalted. So I wrote up some quick distribution curves for Core pg 316, and for the Pokedex, and put them side-by-side to try and agree. Any number of pages and gamefaqs have a pokedex for your use, I went with the Emerald version whenever necessary.

One of the problems I initially ran into, basically with Strength, was that 1-14 is reasonable for a core creature - but a Pokemon can, with the right evolutionary tangent, get up to 15 boosts on a stat. If they started with 14, they could end up at 29 Strength. I'm not much of an Exalted guru but that sounds pretty broken... so base Strength got nerfed to 1-4 and I threw Brawl on top to provide additional support for core stats.

To avoid three-tier evolutionary Pokemon getting too out of control, I ended up rewriting evolution so you maintained your Growth stage when evolving. That puts the cap on stat boosts at 7, so I rewrote Strength back up to 1-10.

A new problem presented itself with Presence vs. Physical attacks. There wasn't much point in going with Presence attacks, not when Per+Pre maxes out at 10 and Str+Brawl potentially went up to 15 just to start. So I subbed in Willpower for Perception, and allowed raising Willpower at Growth. This gives WP+Pre a pool of 2-12 to start, 19 maxed; Str+Bra has 1-15 to start, 22 maxed. Roughly equal, and Presence attacks tend to start stronger even though Physical attacks tend to finish stronger.

The end product is fairly self-explanatory. If a Pokemon starts with HP of 100, that means they get 6 HLs in Pokexalted.

HP: HL
01-40: 4
41-80: 6
81-120: 8
121-160: 10
161-200: 12
201-255: 14
Att: Str\Dmg (assumed B), Brawl
01-30: Str 1, Brawl 0
31-60: Str 2, Brawl 1
61-90: Str 4, Brawl 2
91-120: Str 6, Brawl 3
121-150: Str 8, Brawl 4
151-180: Str 10, Brawl 5
Def: Sta\Soak, Temperance
01-40: Sta 2 - 1L, 2B soak, Temperance 1
41-80: Sta 4 - 2L, 4B soak, Temperance 1
81-120: Sta 6 - 3L, 6B soak, Temperance 2
121-160: Sta 8 - 4L, 8B soak, Temperance 3
161-200: Sta 10 - 5L, 10B soak, Temperance 4
201-230: Sta 12 - 6L, 12B soak, Temperance 5
Spd: Dodge, Dex
01-30: Dex 1, Dodge 0
31-60: Dex 2, Dodge 1
61-90: Dex 3, Dodge 2
91-120: Dex 4, Dodge 3
121-150: Dex 4, Dodge 4
151-180: Dex 4, Dodge 5
Sp.A: Presence, Conviction
01-30: Pre 0, Conviction 1
31-60: Pre 1, Conviction 1
61-90: Pre 2, Conviction 2
91-120: Pre 3, Conviction 3
121-150: Pre 4, Conviction 4
151-180: Pre 5, Conviction 5
Sp.D: Willpower, Valor
01-40: WP 3, Valor 1
41-80: WP 4, Valor 1
81-120: WP 5, Valor 2
121-160: WP 6, Valor 3
161-200: WP 7, Valor 4
201-230: WP 8, Valor 5

For the WoD set, Presence was replaced by Wits and Willpower by Resolve, since Presence was no longer used to represent Special Attacks/Defense and Willpower was based once again on Virtues.

Sp.A: Presence, Conviction
01-30: Wits 1, Conviction 1
31-60: Wits 2, Conviction 1
61-90: Wits 3, Conviction 2
91-120: Wits 4, Conviction 3
121-150: Wits 4, Conviction 4
151-180: Wits 4, Conviction 5
Sp.D: Willpower, Valor
01-40: Resolve 1, Valor 1
41-80: Resolve 2, Valor 1
81-120: Resolve 3, Valor 2
121-160: Resolve 4, Valor 3
161-200: Resolve 4, Valor 4
201-230: Resolve 4, Valor 5

I used a similar methodology for attack conversions.

Attack conversions...

Accuracy n\a, 30-100
Base PP 5-40
Base Power n\a, 10-250
Special effects: ungodly variation, no direct correlation possible

Actual damage formula: Damage = ((((2 * Level \ 5 + 2) * AttackStat * AttackPower \ DefenseStat) \ 50) + 2) * STAB * Weakness\Resistance * RandomNumber \ 100
STAB = 1.5x damage for type-matched attacks, 1x for unmatched, .5x for mismatched
Attack types: nerf opponent attribute, boost own attribute, absorb damage dealt, negate modifiers, high critical hit ratio, multiple attacks, cure status ailment, cause status ailment... etc.

Accuracy: attack modifier
01-30: -5
31-45: -2
46-60: -1
61-75: +1
76-90: +2
91-100: +5
PP: mote cost
05-09: 7m
10-15: 6m
16-20: 5m
21-25: 4m
26-30: 3m
31-35: 2m
36-40: 1m
Power: base damage; most Techniques act as one-shot weapons
n\a: no direct damage
01-20: 2B
21-50: 4B
51-90: 6B
91-150: 8B
151-200: 10B
201-250: 12B

Mote cost 1-10(+1w+1h)

Speed: I skipped Speed completely because I don't freaking understand how it works. If someone else wants to suggest a formula I'll take their word for it.

Shadow: The Shadow moves natively have no PP pools. You could use 'em as much as you want. Shadow Pokemon are already frickin' tough compared to their compatriots (strong against all types, ye gods), so I did my best to introduce balanced mote costs.

The attack effects gave me the most skullsweat here. Nearly every move has some sort of special effect, and many of them included percentile dice. That's why you'll see a lot of "opponent rolls Resistance; on failure, Status Condition". A diff 1 check represents 01-20% chance, diff 2 21-40%, etc. Things like reflexive\supplemental\scenelong, that jive, I had to pull it from my technicolor butt.

You may be wondering which attacks are "special" attacks, and which are "physical".
Pokemon
Physical Special

Normal Fire
Fighting Water
Poison Electric
Ground Grass
Flying Ice
Bug Psychic
Rock Dragon
Ghost Dark
Steel
These types have been simplified, but in working up the Movedex I used original Movetype to determine physical\presence as necessary. The Poketype, initially determined by the TCG, has been simplified by subbing some types under others, and turning Flying and Ground into specials rather than types.

Pokexalted STAB...

Water (+Ic) > Fire / Rock (+St) > Grass (+Po+Bu) > Electric >
Normal (+Dr+Da) > Psychic (+Gh) > Fighting >

Rarity was determined at first by, basically, numerology. It didn't work so well. I've implemented actual in-game rarity at this point, as best as I can.

Rarity...
6-12: Rarity 1 (common)
13-15: Rarity 2 (uncommon)
16-18: Rarity 3 (unusual)
19-21: Rarity 4 (rare)
22-24: Rarity 5 (legendary)

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 -230: WP 8, Valor 5
-For the [[WoD]] set, Presence was replaced by Wits and Willpower by Resolve, since Presence was no longer used to represent Special [[AttacksPokexalted/Conversion/Defense]] and Willpower was based once again on Virtues.
+For the [[WoD]] set, Presence was replaced by Wits and Willpower by Resolve, since Presence was no longer used to represent Special Attacks/Defense and Willpower was based once again on Virtues.
   Sp.A: Presence, Conviction

@@ Line 24: / Line 24: @@
   HP: HL
--40: 2 (-3\I)
+-40: 4
--80: 4 (-0\-2\-4\I)
+-80: 6
--120: 6 (-0\-1\-1\-2\-4\I)
+-120: 8
--160: 8 (-0\-0\-1\-1\-2\-2\-4\I)
+-160: 10
--200: 10 (-0\-0\-0\-1\-1\-1\-2\-2\-4\I)
+-200: 12
--255: 12 (-0\-0\-0\-1\-1\-1\-2\-2\-2\-4\-4\I)
+-255: 14
   Att: Str\Dmg (assumed B), Brawl
 -30: Str 1, Brawl 0
@@ Line 65: / Line 65: @@
 -200: WP 7, Valor 4
 -230: WP 8, Valor 5
 I used a similar methodology for attack conversions.
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   Special effects: ungodly variation, no direct correlation possible
-  Actual damage formula: Damage = ((((2 * Level \ 5 + 2) * AttackStat * AttackPower \ DefenseStat) \ 50) + 2) * STAB * Weakness\Resistance * RandomNumber \ 100
+  Actual damage formula: Damage = ((((2 * Level \ 5 + 2) * [[AttackStat]] * [[AttackPower]] \ [[DefenseStat]]) \ 50) + 2) * STAB * Weakness\Resistance * [[RandomNumber]] \ 100
   STAB = 1.5x damage for type-matched attacks, 1x for unmatched, .5x for mismatched
   Attack types: nerf opponent attribute, boost own attribute, absorb damage dealt, negate modifiers, high critical hit ratio, multiple attacks, cure status ailment, cause status ailment... etc.
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 Speed: I skipped Speed completely because I don't freaking understand how it works.  If someone else wants to suggest a formula I'll take their word for it.
 The attack effects gave me the most skullsweat here.  Nearly every move has some sort of special effect, and many of them included percentile dice.  That's why you'll see a lot of "opponent rolls Resistance; on failure, Status Condition".  A diff 1 check represents 01-20% chance, diff 2 21-40%, etc.  Things like reflexive\supplemental\scenelong, that jive, I had to pull it from my technicolor butt.
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   Ghost           Dark
   Steel
-These types have been simplified, but in working up the Movedex I used original Movetype to determine physical\presence as necessary.  The Poketype was determined by the TCG (Trading Card Game), although in some cases there were multiple cards for the same Pokemon with different types, so I have no doubt a bit of filtering may end up being necessary.  STAB itself was largely arbitrary and based on as much logic as I could muster at the time, as well as random selections from the games.
+These types have been simplified, but in working up the Movedex I used original Movetype to determine physical\presence as necessary.  The Poketype, initially determined by the TCG, has been simplified by subbing some types under others, and turning Flying and Ground into specials rather than types.
   Pokexalted STAB...
-   Pokemon                         Pokexalted
+  Water (+Ic) > Fire / Rock (+St) > Grass (+Po+Bu) > Electric >
-  -- 	Tackle                 0 - Overgrow (special ability)
+  Normal (+Dr+Da) > Psychic (+Gh) > Fighting >
-What I did for rarity is I added together the stages for each of the six stats.  A Alakazam has a 55 HP, which is stage 2 Health, so that's 2 points; a 135 in Sp.A, which is on the high end of 5 points - you get the picture.  Adding all six stages together, you get a quantifiable idea of how powerful the starting Pokémon is.  This isn't completely accurate, it ignores Techniques and Abilities, but I'll be damned if I know a fast way to totally balance 387 Pokémon - some of whom don't even start with offensive Techniques at all.  Anyway, the stages and end results can still be found in Pokexalted\Dump.
+Rarity was determined at first by, basically, numerology.  It didn't work so well.  I've implemented actual in-game rarity at this point, as best as I can.
   Rarity...
--12: Rarity 1 (common)               In reviewing the Pokedex, you may spot some discrepancies.  Things like
+-12: Rarity 1 (common)
--15: Rarity 2 (uncommon)            001 and 002 being uncommon even though 002 evolves up a step.  Evolution
+-15: Rarity 2 (uncommon)
--18: Rarity 3 (unusual)             and Rarity are not on a linear scale.  This can be explained in the game
+-18: Rarity 3 (unusual)
--21: Rarity 4 (rare)                world however you like, but it basically means that I needed a scale and
+-21: Rarity 4 (rare)
--24: Rarity 5 (legendary)           that's where the Pokemon in question fit.  Yay systems!
+-24: Rarity 5 (legendary)