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 '''Colleges''': For maximum versatility in what things you can affect, and resplendent effects you can gain, it is best to have 1 dot in as many colleges as possible at starting character level. While it is slightly more XP efficient to just get high scores in a few colleges to start with, doing so means you will be less likely to get the chance to actually use that power, as there will be fewer things to apply it to. Probably the most useful resplendent effects fall under the ships wheel, the quiver, and the sorcerer, so I will put 1 in each of these. The other 4 must go in the house of leisure. Probably the least fitting college for this character is the lovers, so I will put 1 in each of the other 4. Unlike abilities, backgrounds and virtues, there does not seem to be any cap on how high you may raise colleges with your starting points. If you were so inclined, and willing to spend all 18 of your BP on it, you could start off with 2 at 5.
-'''Bonus points''': Since it is so useful, both in itself, and in making charms more powerful, a high essence is a must. This uses up 10 of the bonus points. 1 has to go to raising lore high enough to use OtSotW. The other 7 would probably be best spent further improving needed abilities. Since it will boost both craft abilites, I'll spend two points to get the specialty "taking extra time+3" and put the remaining specialty point in performance "poetry." as it will add to the prayer rolls. Since buying up the specialties gets you more dice per point spent than buying up abilities, I'll spend another two on boosting performance and occult "horoscopes+2" The remaining 3 will go to increasing my calligraphy to 4, and performance to 5.
+'''Bonus points''': Since it is so useful, both in itself, and in making charms more powerful, a high essence is a must. This uses up 10 of the bonus points. 1 has to go to raising lore high enough to use [[OtSotW]]. The other 7 would probably be best spent further improving needed abilities. Since it will boost both craft abilites, I'll spend two points to get the specialty "taking extra time+3" and put the remaining specialty point in performance "poetry." as it will add to the prayer rolls. Since buying up the specialties gets you more dice per point spent than buying up abilities, I'll spend another two on boosting performance and occult "horoscopes+2" The remaining 3 will go to increasing my calligraphy to 4, and performance to 5.
 This means that the final character sheet looks something like this.
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 === Military Coordinator ===
-Here, you'll need to have a resplendent destiny or CtEA identity established, so you can interact fairly normally with the people you are training/advising/leading. The captain, banner, and sorcerer are best suited for this purpose.
+Here, you'll need to have a resplendent destiny or [[CtEA]] identity established, so you can interact fairly normally with the people you are training/advising/leading. The captain, banner, and sorcerer are best suited for this purpose.
 In terms of secondary destinies used for effects, you have a lot of choices. The captain, mast, most of the house of war, sorcerer and corpse are good ones. At high power levels, iron drill exercise can make tiger warrior training look weak, and at essence 6+, they can give ordinary people superhuman skills. This works especially well if several sidereals are working together. Structure of the mast is most useful if you are suspecting a one-on-one fight. Aspect of the bear and Battle carrying presence can be combined to make your troops completely immune to fear effects and fatigue. Heroic general presence and Tide of history also combine to make fearless inexhaustible troops. Knuckle cracking stance and weak spine effect also combine well.
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 An important role for the chosen of Venus Being part of and directing the relationships in an area is both part of their job description, and something most of them enjoy. In many ways, they are the hardest hit by arcane fate. Their whole purpose is the creating and maintaining of love and relationships, and the difficulty in maintaining long-term equal partnerships has got to hurt. In terms of colleges, the house of leisure unsurprisingly contains most of the useful ones. In general use, they divide into two broad categories. The ewer, peacock and pillar mostly cover long-term relationships, while the lovers and musician aid in short term relationships and parties.
-Here, a long term resplendent destiny is very helpful. In many cases, they will want to set it up to last for a human lifetime, giving them a fully integrated identity virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. Additional identities are risky, but make control over an area so much easier. There are only so many friends you can maintain with one identity, due to issues of age, gender, and social class groupings. CtEA will get huge amounts of use here, as you can simply step in as a new identity, with all the social contacts and years of "friendship" that you need, rather than having to gradually build up trust. The socialize charms will also get lots of use. In terms of ascending effects, TN reducers of power 2 or 3 are probably the best bet over the long term here. Since you can know and control the situations of the people around you, it is relatively easy to determine what set of conditions will affect a person.
+Here, a long term resplendent destiny is very helpful. In many cases, they will want to set it up to last for a human lifetime, giving them a fully integrated identity virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. Additional identities are risky, but make control over an area so much easier. There are only so many friends you can maintain with one identity, due to issues of age, gender, and social class groupings. [[CtEA]] will get huge amounts of use here, as you can simply step in as a new identity, with all the social contacts and years of "friendship" that you need, rather than having to gradually build up trust. The socialize charms will also get lots of use. In terms of ascending effects, TN reducers of power 2 or 3 are probably the best bet over the long term here. Since you can know and control the situations of the people around you, it is relatively easy to determine what set of conditions will affect a person.
 === Obviously supernatural being ===
-Sometimes, you want or need to show off, really make an impression. Being forgotten really spoils this. If you want to create lasting stories of your deeds, you really need a resplendent destiny. If you want permanent ones, you (again) need CtEA. However, both of these methods have a serious limitation, in the amount of peripheral essence you can spend without ruining them. So creative applications of resplendent effects are very necessary to redress the balance and create spectacular results.
+Sometimes, you want or need to show off, really make an impression. Being forgotten really spoils this. If you want to create lasting stories of your deeds, you really need a resplendent destiny. If you want permanent ones, you (again) need [[CtEA]]. However, both of these methods have a serious limitation, in the amount of peripheral essence you can spend without ruining them. So creative applications of resplendent effects are very necessary to redress the balance and create spectacular results.
 For your identity, the sorcerer is the obvious choice, Both the appearance, and the powers are hugely useful, enabling you to shrug off nasty effects, look cool, and be remembered as doing so. For specific roles, the captain, messenger, banner, and crow make good choices, but others can be turned to the role of a supernatural being as well. The house of endings in particularly good in terms of powers. The greater signs are impressive, and blatantly supernatural effects, especially feathered cloak trick, which allows you to masquerade as a lunar, and chains of adorjan and tears of the blade, which are pretty obvious and terrifying effects. The effects of the shield, while not completely obvious, allow you to do things that it would be pretty hard for a normal human to pull off, and strength of the mast and field mouse rider are pretty blatant and impressive as well.
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 ===== Comments =====
-You can't use CMoS form to help astrology - you can't take mental or social actions while it is adopted, and that's all Astrology is. - IanPrice
+You can't use [[CMoS]] form to help astrology - you can't take mental or social actions while it is adopted, and that's all Astrology is. - [[IanPrice]]
-Well, regardless, this is a pretty amazing write-up.  Who did it, now? --UncleChu
+Well, regardless, this is a pretty amazing write-up.  Who did it, now? --[[UncleChu]]

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 '''Colleges''': For maximum versatility in what things you can affect, and resplendent effects you can gain, it is best to have 1 dot in as many colleges as possible at starting character level. While it is slightly more XP efficient to just get high scores in a few colleges to start with, doing so means you will be less likely to get the chance to actually use that power, as there will be fewer things to apply it to. Probably the most useful resplendent effects fall under the ships wheel, the quiver, and the sorcerer, so I will put 1 in each of these. The other 4 must go in the house of leisure. Probably the least fitting college for this character is the lovers, so I will put 1 in each of the other 4. Unlike abilities, backgrounds and virtues, there does not seem to be any cap on how high you may raise colleges with your starting points. If you were so inclined, and willing to spend all 18 of your BP on it, you could start off with 2 at 5.
-'''Bonus points''': Since it is so useful, both in itself, and in making charms more powerful, a high essence is a must. This uses up 10 of the bonus points. 1 has to go to raising lore high enough to use OtSotW. The other 7 would probably be best spent further improving needed abilities. Since it will boost both craft abilites, I'll spend two points to get the specialty "taking extra time+3" and put the remaining specialty point in performance "poetry." as it will add to the prayer rolls. Since buying up the specialties gets you more dice per point spent than buying up abilities, I'll spend another two on boosting performance and occult "horoscopes+2" The remaining 3 will go to increasing my calligraphy to 4, and performance to 5.
+'''Bonus points''': Since it is so useful, both in itself, and in making charms more powerful, a high essence is a must. This uses up 10 of the bonus points. 1 has to go to raising lore high enough to use [[OtSotW]]. The other 7 would probably be best spent further improving needed abilities. Since it will boost both craft abilites, I'll spend two points to get the specialty "taking extra time+3" and put the remaining specialty point in performance "poetry." as it will add to the prayer rolls. Since buying up the specialties gets you more dice per point spent than buying up abilities, I'll spend another two on boosting performance and occult "horoscopes+2" The remaining 3 will go to increasing my calligraphy to 4, and performance to 5.
 This means that the final character sheet looks something like this.
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 === Military Coordinator ===
-Here, you'll need to have a resplendent destiny or CtEA identity established, so you can interact fairly normally with the people you are training/advising/leading. The captain, banner, and sorcerer are best suited for this purpose.
+Here, you'll need to have a resplendent destiny or [[CtEA]] identity established, so you can interact fairly normally with the people you are training/advising/leading. The captain, banner, and sorcerer are best suited for this purpose.
 In terms of secondary destinies used for effects, you have a lot of choices. The captain, mast, most of the house of war, sorcerer and corpse are good ones. At high power levels, iron drill exercise can make tiger warrior training look weak, and at essence 6+, they can give ordinary people superhuman skills. This works especially well if several sidereals are working together. Structure of the mast is most useful if you are suspecting a one-on-one fight. Aspect of the bear and Battle carrying presence can be combined to make your troops completely immune to fear effects and fatigue. Heroic general presence and Tide of history also combine to make fearless inexhaustible troops. Knuckle cracking stance and weak spine effect also combine well.
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 An important role for the chosen of Venus Being part of and directing the relationships in an area is both part of their job description, and something most of them enjoy. In many ways, they are the hardest hit by arcane fate. Their whole purpose is the creating and maintaining of love and relationships, and the difficulty in maintaining long-term equal partnerships has got to hurt. In terms of colleges, the house of leisure unsurprisingly contains most of the useful ones. In general use, they divide into two broad categories. The ewer, peacock and pillar mostly cover long-term relationships, while the lovers and musician aid in short term relationships and parties.
-Here, a long term resplendent destiny is very helpful. In many cases, they will want to set it up to last for a human lifetime, giving them a fully integrated identity virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. Additional identities are risky, but make control over an area so much easier. There are only so many friends you can maintain with one identity, due to issues of age, gender, and social class groupings. CtEA will get huge amounts of use here, as you can simply step in as a new identity, with all the social contacts and years of "friendship" that you need, rather than having to gradually build up trust. The socialize charms will also get lots of use. In terms of ascending effects, TN reducers of power 2 or 3 are probably the best bet over the long term here. Since you can know and control the situations of the people around you, it is relatively easy to determine what set of conditions will affect a person.
+Here, a long term resplendent destiny is very helpful. In many cases, they will want to set it up to last for a human lifetime, giving them a fully integrated identity virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. Additional identities are risky, but make control over an area so much easier. There are only so many friends you can maintain with one identity, due to issues of age, gender, and social class groupings. [[CtEA]] will get huge amounts of use here, as you can simply step in as a new identity, with all the social contacts and years of "friendship" that you need, rather than having to gradually build up trust. The socialize charms will also get lots of use. In terms of ascending effects, TN reducers of power 2 or 3 are probably the best bet over the long term here. Since you can know and control the situations of the people around you, it is relatively easy to determine what set of conditions will affect a person.
 === Obviously supernatural being ===
-Sometimes, you want or need to show off, really make an impression. Being forgotten really spoils this. If you want to create lasting stories of your deeds, you really need a resplendent destiny. If you want permanent ones, you (again) need CtEA. However, both of these methods have a serious limitation, in the amount of peripheral essence you can spend without ruining them. So creative applications of resplendent effects are very necessary to redress the balance and create spectacular results.
+Sometimes, you want or need to show off, really make an impression. Being forgotten really spoils this. If you want to create lasting stories of your deeds, you really need a resplendent destiny. If you want permanent ones, you (again) need [[CtEA]]. However, both of these methods have a serious limitation, in the amount of peripheral essence you can spend without ruining them. So creative applications of resplendent effects are very necessary to redress the balance and create spectacular results.
 For your identity, the sorcerer is the obvious choice, Both the appearance, and the powers are hugely useful, enabling you to shrug off nasty effects, look cool, and be remembered as doing so. For specific roles, the captain, messenger, banner, and crow make good choices, but others can be turned to the role of a supernatural being as well. The house of endings in particularly good in terms of powers. The greater signs are impressive, and blatantly supernatural effects, especially feathered cloak trick, which allows you to masquerade as a lunar, and chains of adorjan and tears of the blade, which are pretty obvious and terrifying effects. The effects of the shield, while not completely obvious, allow you to do things that it would be pretty hard for a normal human to pull off, and strength of the mast and field mouse rider are pretty blatant and impressive as well.
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 ===== Comments =====
-You can't use CMoS form to help astrology - you can't take mental or social actions while it is adopted, and that's all Astrology is. - IanPrice
+You can't use [[CMoS]] form to help astrology - you can't take mental or social actions while it is adopted, and that's all Astrology is. - [[IanPrice]]
-Well, regardless, this is a pretty amazing write-up.  Who did it, now? --UncleChu
+Well, regardless, this is a pretty amazing write-up.  Who did it, now? --[[UncleChu]]
 I wikified the text here, but it originated on the rpg.net forums by someone named "(un)reason". -- [[Wordman]]

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 '''Colleges''': For maximum versatility in what things you can affect, and resplendent effects you can gain, it is best to have 1 dot in as many colleges as possible at starting character level. While it is slightly more XP efficient to just get high scores in a few colleges to start with, doing so means you will be less likely to get the chance to actually use that power, as there will be fewer things to apply it to. Probably the most useful resplendent effects fall under the ships wheel, the quiver, and the sorcerer, so I will put 1 in each of these. The other 4 must go in the house of leisure. Probably the least fitting college for this character is the lovers, so I will put 1 in each of the other 4. Unlike abilities, backgrounds and virtues, there does not seem to be any cap on how high you may raise colleges with your starting points. If you were so inclined, and willing to spend all 18 of your BP on it, you could start off with 2 at 5.
-'''Bonus points''': Since it is so useful, both in itself, and in making charms more powerful, a high essence is a must. This uses up 10 of the bonus points. 1 has to go to raising lore high enough to use [[OtSotW]]. The other 7 would probably be best spent further improving needed abilities. Since it will boost both craft abilites, I'll spend two points to get the specialty "taking extra time+3" and put the remaining specialty point in performance "poetry." as it will add to the prayer rolls. Since buying up the specialties gets you more dice per point spent than buying up abilities, I'll spend another two on boosting performance and occult "horoscopes+2" The remaining 3 will go to increasing my calligraphy to 4, and performance to 5.
+'''Bonus points''': Since it is so useful, both in itself, and in making charms more powerful, a high essence is a must. This uses up 10 of the bonus points. 1 has to go to raising lore high enough to use OtSotW. The other 7 would probably be best spent further improving needed abilities. Since it will boost both craft abilites, I'll spend two points to get the specialty "taking extra time+3" and put the remaining specialty point in performance "poetry." as it will add to the prayer rolls. Since buying up the specialties gets you more dice per point spent than buying up abilities, I'll spend another two on boosting performance and occult "horoscopes+2" The remaining 3 will go to increasing my calligraphy to 4, and performance to 5.
 This means that the final character sheet looks something like this.
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 === Military Coordinator ===
-Here, you'll need to have a resplendent destiny or [[CtEA]] identity established, so you can interact fairly normally with the people you are training/advising/leading. The captain, banner, and sorcerer are best suited for this purpose.
+Here, you'll need to have a resplendent destiny or CtEA identity established, so you can interact fairly normally with the people you are training/advising/leading. The captain, banner, and sorcerer are best suited for this purpose.
 In terms of secondary destinies used for effects, you have a lot of choices. The captain, mast, most of the house of war, sorcerer and corpse are good ones. At high power levels, iron drill exercise can make tiger warrior training look weak, and at essence 6+, they can give ordinary people superhuman skills. This works especially well if several sidereals are working together. Structure of the mast is most useful if you are suspecting a one-on-one fight. Aspect of the bear and Battle carrying presence can be combined to make your troops completely immune to fear effects and fatigue. Heroic general presence and Tide of history also combine to make fearless inexhaustible troops. Knuckle cracking stance and weak spine effect also combine well.
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 An important role for the chosen of Venus Being part of and directing the relationships in an area is both part of their job description, and something most of them enjoy. In many ways, they are the hardest hit by arcane fate. Their whole purpose is the creating and maintaining of love and relationships, and the difficulty in maintaining long-term equal partnerships has got to hurt. In terms of colleges, the house of leisure unsurprisingly contains most of the useful ones. In general use, they divide into two broad categories. The ewer, peacock and pillar mostly cover long-term relationships, while the lovers and musician aid in short term relationships and parties.
-Here, a long term resplendent destiny is very helpful. In many cases, they will want to set it up to last for a human lifetime, giving them a fully integrated identity virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. Additional identities are risky, but make control over an area so much easier. There are only so many friends you can maintain with one identity, due to issues of age, gender, and social class groupings. [[CtEA]] will get huge amounts of use here, as you can simply step in as a new identity, with all the social contacts and years of "friendship" that you need, rather than having to gradually build up trust. The socialize charms will also get lots of use. In terms of ascending effects, TN reducers of power 2 or 3 are probably the best bet over the long term here. Since you can know and control the situations of the people around you, it is relatively easy to determine what set of conditions will affect a person.
+Here, a long term resplendent destiny is very helpful. In many cases, they will want to set it up to last for a human lifetime, giving them a fully integrated identity virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. Additional identities are risky, but make control over an area so much easier. There are only so many friends you can maintain with one identity, due to issues of age, gender, and social class groupings. CtEA will get huge amounts of use here, as you can simply step in as a new identity, with all the social contacts and years of "friendship" that you need, rather than having to gradually build up trust. The socialize charms will also get lots of use. In terms of ascending effects, TN reducers of power 2 or 3 are probably the best bet over the long term here. Since you can know and control the situations of the people around you, it is relatively easy to determine what set of conditions will affect a person.
 === Obviously supernatural being ===
-Sometimes, you want or need to show off, really make an impression. Being forgotten really spoils this. If you want to create lasting stories of your deeds, you really need a resplendent destiny. If you want permanent ones, you (again) need [[CtEA]]. However, both of these methods have a serious limitation, in the amount of peripheral essence you can spend without ruining them. So creative applications of resplendent effects are very necessary to redress the balance and create spectacular results.
+Sometimes, you want or need to show off, really make an impression. Being forgotten really spoils this. If you want to create lasting stories of your deeds, you really need a resplendent destiny. If you want permanent ones, you (again) need CtEA. However, both of these methods have a serious limitation, in the amount of peripheral essence you can spend without ruining them. So creative applications of resplendent effects are very necessary to redress the balance and create spectacular results.
 For your identity, the sorcerer is the obvious choice, Both the appearance, and the powers are hugely useful, enabling you to shrug off nasty effects, look cool, and be remembered as doing so. For specific roles, the captain, messenger, banner, and crow make good choices, but others can be turned to the role of a supernatural being as well. The house of endings in particularly good in terms of powers. The greater signs are impressive, and blatantly supernatural effects, especially feathered cloak trick, which allows you to masquerade as a lunar, and chains of adorjan and tears of the blade, which are pretty obvious and terrifying effects. The effects of the shield, while not completely obvious, allow you to do things that it would be pretty hard for a normal human to pull off, and strength of the mast and field mouse rider are pretty blatant and impressive as well.
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 ===== Comments =====
-You can't use [[CMoS]] form to help astrology - you can't take mental or social actions while it is adopted, and that's all Astrology is. - [[IanPrice]]
+You can't use CMoS form to help astrology - you can't take mental or social actions while it is adopted, and that's all Astrology is. - IanPrice
-Well, regardless, this is a pretty amazing write-up.  Who did it, now? --[[UncleChu]]
+Well, regardless, this is a pretty amazing write-up.  Who did it, now? --UncleChu

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