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2010-06-09T00:40:22Z

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Nikink: Some tweaks to Heaven Crossing Lightning Technique and Heaven Shattering Thunderbolt Onslaught.

2010-04-13T04:58:55Z

Some tweaks to Heaven Crossing Lightning Technique and Heaven Shattering Thunderbolt Onslaught.

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2010-04-06T01:17:18Z

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Nikink: Note to IanPrice

2010-04-05T10:50:45Z

Note to IanPrice

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2010-04-05T08:07:43Z

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IanPrice: Clarification.

2010-04-05T03:35:01Z

Clarification.

Nikink: response to IanPrice

2010-04-05T03:21:29Z

response to IanPrice

IanPrice: moving comment to go with the charm it's about.

2010-04-05T01:39:42Z

moving comment to go with the charm it's about.

IanPrice: CSA question.

2010-04-05T01:32:30Z

CSA question.

Nikink: Still looking for feedback if anyone's interested. :) Debate still on re pinnacle. :)

2010-04-04T13:03:24Z

Still looking for feedback if anyone's interested. :) Debate still on re pinnacle. :)

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 The Exalt may make close-combat Martial Arts attacks up to her MA+Ess in yards away, and the range increment of any thrown weapons is tripled.
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eHSWT]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eHSWT]]
 :Coolies - [[Bencyclopedia]]
 :: I thought about this one some more, I do think it's cool, but I reckon it's too high in the tree for what it does. I'd personnally consider swaping it's position with Gale-Riding Meditation or Ominous Rumble Prana. [[Bencyclopedia]]
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 The exalt can make a number of attacks this tick equal to her permanent Ess+1 at no loss of DV. Those foes successfully struck (not necessarily damaged) must make a Dex+Ath roll at a difficulty of the Exalt's Ess. If this roll fails they are knocked backwards a number of yards equal to the Exalt's Essence; if it botches they are thrown to the ground prone as well. This knockback does not work against opponents with an Sta+Ess greater than the Exalt's MA+Ess. The attacks may be directed at the same or different targets.
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eHSTA]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eHSTA]]
 :Very cool, I love this. - [[Bencyclopedia]]
 : Ta. :) Note that all of these extra actions are attack, and each attack can potentially knockback a target at least 3 yards, effectively potentially knocking them out of the character's reach, and thus wasting the remaining attacks... thus having ''Heaven-Scouring Windstorm Technique'' active is a big help. Nice to have when you are surrounded though, to gain you some breathing space. And of course, throwing a spear some 200 yards to plunge into the enemies chest and knock him 3 yards backwards... of the cliff... is just kinda cool. :) [[nikink]]

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 ''Aoshi enters the grand meeting hall trailed by a swirl of frigid air and feathers. A large warrior strides towards her demanding she leave at once. The ST calls for a Join Debate. Instead of rolling her Wits + Awareness pool of 6 dice, Aoshi spends 3 motes, sensing there is conflict on the horizon, and her Join Debate is set to her Martial Arts rating of 4. The warrior has a Join Debate pool of 5 and gets 4 successes as well, so Aoshi spends an extra mote to raise her Join Debate to 5. Aoshi interrupts his demands with a social attack of her own to be allowed to see the king.''
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eCSA]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eCSA]]
 :: Tweaked. Bit more versatile, can now add up to Essence successes as well.
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 The Storm Crow makes a complex, essence-charged flurry of feints. This distracts and confuses opponents, making the attack more difficult to defend against. For each mote spent (up to Essence x motes) the Martial Artist reduces the Multiple Action Penalty by one during a flurry of attacks.
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eBWF]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eBWF]]
 ''Now I'm considering increasing the onslaught attack penalty as well... but I think it's ok as is.'' [[nikink]]
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 ''The guard trumps Aoshi's Join Debate with a Join Battle and swings his sword at her. Aoshi's eyes flash with anger and she looms like a terrible cloud for an instant. She spends 1m and subtracts the guard's Valor (2) from her MA (4), granting her +2DV and +2 Soak against this attack. Later, in audience with the King, he becomes angry and demands fealty. Again Aoshi activates Ruffled Feathers Defence, but the king is braver than his guard. Her MA minus his Valor (5) equals a total of -1. Fortunately she may spend extra motes to add up to her Presence (4). She spends an extra 8 motes to gain a total DV bonus of 3 against the King's attack.''
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eRFD]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eRFD]]
 ''Somewhat different from 1st version - as always, comments welcome. Not sure if exceeding dice caps is a good idea for a basic defence charm, and if so, is it too cheap? On the other hand, it's twice as expensive as the 1st Presence Excellency, requires a combo to use it '''with''' a presence Excellency, can be resisted by all who are immune to Illusion effects'' - [[nikink]]
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 The Exalt may add their MA to their DV Calculation for one attack as long as they have room to move. At the end of attack resolution (Step 10) the Exalt is moved up to MA+Ess in yards away from the attacker. This movement may carry them out of range of the attacker and can render further attacks inapplicable unless the attacker can close the distance. The Storm Crow can cover the entire field of battle by activating this Charm in response to multiple attacks.
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eGRM]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eGRM]]
 :I love this, very, very cool. - [[Bencyclopedia]]
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 The Exalt may add her Essence to the damage of an unarmed attack. If at least one level of damage is caused, the Exalt may make an intimidation roll of Man+Presence+MA against the victim's Valor. If successful they must retreat from the Exalt for one tick per level of damaged caused at at least normal movement speeds, so long as they have room to move. If the successes rolled are greater than twice their Valor, the victim will turn their backs (causing DV to set to 0, unless they have a method of detecting surprise attacks or otherwise not suffering from having their back to an opponent)) and flee from battle entirely at as fast as they can, if they can. If they cannot move away from the Exalt, they will drop their weapons and cower before her for the same effect. Opponents immune to fear effects will suffer the retreat effect, but will not turn and flee.
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eORP]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eORP]]
 ''The idea is that by landing a solid blow, the target gets scared by the (seeming) prowess of the Exalt and may flee... Should this be a valour roll by the target?'' [[nikink]]
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 The Exalt's eyes spark and flash, and gusts of essence driven wind whip around her body to disturb a grey mist that forms to the sound of distant thunder.
-While this Charm is in effect, the character adds her MA to her Parry DV, may parry lethal without a stunt and her Parry DV may not be reduced to less than her MA by Wound, Onslaught or Coordinated Attack penalties. The Exalt becomes immune to environmental penalties caused by wind, cold, ice, rain, storms, Air Aspected Anima banners, lightning etc, while under the effects of this Charm, and may add her MA to all rolls to intimidate or cause fear and every successful use of ''Ominous Rumble Prana'' or ''Ruffled Feathers Defence'' counts as one scene towards establishing a intimacy of fear towards the Exalt in the victim.
+While this Charm is in effect, the character adds half her MA to her Parry DV, may parry lethal without a stunt and her Parry DV may not be reduced to less than her MA by Wound, Onslaught or Coordinated Attack penalties. The Exalt becomes immune to environmental penalties caused by wind, cold, ice, rain, storms, Air Aspected Anima banners, lightning etc, while under the effects of this Charm, and may add her MA to all rolls to intimidate or cause fear and every successful use of ''Ominous Rumble Prana'' or ''Ruffled Feathers Defence'' counts as one scene towards establishing a intimacy of fear towards the Exalt in the victim.
 An Exalt can only benefit from the effects of one Form-type Charm at a time; if a new one is activated, the previous Form ends.
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eSCF]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eSCF]]
 :Increased Parry DV without being able to parry lethal with your bare hands seems meh. Cost seems a bit too much, most forms do not require WP afaik. Other than that I like it. - [[Bencyclopedia]]
 : Added lethal parry bit. As for cost, there was a reason for it in 1st Ed. Style. Will need to revise for 2nd. Also considering adding Ess to Soak. [[nikink]]
 :: I think this is pretty good, still not keen on the WP cost though. [[Bencyclopedia]]
 :: Pseudo persistent parry, I think that Justifies a WP. Parry DV never less than 4 unless magic used. Not world shattering, but on top of the other handy effects... handy. [[nikink]]
+:Have reduced PDV boost effect to half MA instead of full MA. [[nikink]]
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 <b><i>Heaven-Scouring Windstorm Technique</i></b>
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   <b>Duration:</b> Instant
   <b>Keywords:</b> Combo-Ok, Obvious
-  <b>Type    :</b> Simple (Speed 3, -2DV)
+  <b>Type    :</b> Supplemental
   <b>Prereqs :</b> Heaven-Scouring Windstorm Technique
-The Exalt performs an elaborate, impossibly swift attack, which can be defended against only by Charms which permit characters to avoid attacks of which they are not aware, or by characters with Charm-enhanced vision; against all without such benefits this attack counts as Unexpected.
+The Exalt performs an elaborate, impossibly swift attack, which can be defended against only by Charms which permit characters to avoid attacks of which they are not aware, or by characters with Charm-enhanced vision; against all without such benefits this attack counts as Unexpected. This charm leaves the user overxtended and incurs an additional -1DV on the attack (ie: if an attack incurs -1DV normally, using this charm with it makes the attack -2DV).
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eHCLS]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eHCLS]]
 :Not sure if this should be supplemental? And as a Simple Charm, can it be Combo-Ok? I don't think so... [[nikink]]
 ::Simple charms are fine to be combo ok as long at they are of instant duration. *EDIT* Think I'm falling back into 1E thinking here, this may not be how it works anymore. Will check whenn I have the MRB with me. [[Bencyclopedia]]
 :: Changed wording, attack counts as unexpected. Someone on WW forum reckons ''any'' magic enhanced vision might be better, so Artifacts, Mutations etc could all nullify it. I think that may be too broad as a nerf? [[nikink]]
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 <b><i>Heaven-Drenching Rainfall Blow</i></b>
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 Just as storm-driven rain can penetrate even the thickest clothing or the grandest temples, so can an attack enhanced by this Charm penetrate even the mightiest armour. Any attack enhanced by this Charm ignores the target's armour when determining Soak.
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eHDRB]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eHDRB]]
 :This seems to be pretty much the same as Armor Penatrating Fang Strike, on that basis this seems a bit cheap. APFS is 4m 1wp. It is deep in the tree and requires essence 3 though, so maybe not. - [[Bencyclopedia]]
 :Yup, again, costed from 1st ed. I think it's ok, as 7m = 2 stunts, 4m+1wp = 2 stunts. [[nikink]]
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   <b>Duration:</b> Instant
   <b>Keywords:</b> Combo-Ok, Obvious, Emotion, Crippling, War
-  <b>Type    :</b> Supplemental
+  <b>Type    :</b> Simple
   <b>Prereqs :</b> Heaven-Shaking Thunder Assault, Heaven-Drenching Rainfall Blow, Heaven-Crossing Lightning Strike
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 Lastly, if the number of attack successes is greater than the target's Valor, and their Essence is less than the Stormcrow's MA (or MA x2 if they have the Form going), they must spend 1WP to oppose the character on their next action. If the number of successes is greater than double the target's Valor, they must spend 2WP or flee the battle as fast as they can. This is an Unnatural Mental Influence fear effect. (Consider most Mooks to be blind + deaf for the scene, and (Average Valour x 10%, to be unaffected by the fear, the rest will be scared or fleeing). This thunderclap can be heard up to one mile away.
-[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2e/StormCrowStyle2eHSTO]]
+[[Nikink/StormCrowStyle2eHSTO]]
 :Does this require the additional attacks to be against a different target or can they all be made against the same target? Does the deafening have any mechanical effect, a penalty or some such? Also nothing stopping someone just not attacking on their next action to avoid making the valour roll and hence not being able to botch and flee? - [[Bencyclopedia]]
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 :::: [[nikink]]
 === Comments for 2nd Ed version ===

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 Why does Coming Storm Awareness affect social combat? This style doesn't apparently have any complementary training in social abilities to justify this, and social awareness is drastically different from martial, whether magical insight or otherwise. Martial arts is all about structured training to shape the natural expression of essence through charms in certain ways, so a style which gives social awareness would necessarily (especially in 2nd edition mechanics) employ social training. -- IanPrice (<i>and incidentally, bypassing perfect defenses is a time-honored trope of canon charms, what with all the sneak-attacks, extra attacks, and a few other examples; just to comment on your self-rules down there.</i>)
-"The Stormcrow sees all conflict on the horizon, as gathering storm clouds can be seen by farmers and sailors." That's the fluff reasoning anyway. Presence is a valuable addition to this style due to its fear causing effects. I'll note that above. And done. At no time in this Style have I attempted to bypass perfect defences. Not intentionally anyway. If you point out where you read that I have, I will try to re-word to be clearer. Not sure what you mean by my 'self-rules down there'? Thanks for taking the time to comment! :) [[nikink]]
+"The Stormcrow sees all conflict on the horizon, as gathering storm clouds can be seen by farmers and sailors." That's the fluff reasoning anyway. Presence is a valuable addition to this style due to its fear causing effects. I'll note that above. And done. At no time in this Style have I attempted to bypass perfect defences. Not intentionally anyway. If you point out where you read that I have, I will try to re-word to be clearer. Not sure what you mean by my 'self-rules down there'? Thanks for taking the time to comment! :) [[nikink]] ''Time-honored trope or no, I will not intentionally write a Charm that tries to bypass "perfect" defences. That way lies broken madness and crazy talk. :)''
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 <b><i>Buffeting Wing Flurry</i></b>
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 : Do not attempt to create any form of Creation-destroying instant effect.

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 For the 1st Ed crunch, go to [[MartialArts/StormCrowStyle2]]
-The Style evokes the bitter cold and ominous storms of the North, and the wisdom of the Crows which ride those cold winds proclaiming dire warnings to all they see. A dash of Odin within the Celestial Bureaucracy. Also, I wish it to travel from Essence 1, MA 2 minimums to an eventual peak of Essence 3, MA 5. It is meant to be a celestial style though, so if I've drastically under specced, then I'm willing to bump up. :)
+The Style evokes the bitter cold and ominous storms of the North, and the wisdom of the Crows which ride those cold winds proclaiming dire warnings to all they see. A dash of Odin within the Celestial Bureaucracy. Also, I wish it to travel from Essence 1, MA 2 minimums to an eventual peak of Essence 3, MA 5. It is meant to be a celestial style though, so if I've drastically under spec'd, then I'm willing to bump up. :)
-It's weapons are the Spear and the Hatchet and artefact versions thereof. It's practitioners are known as Stormcrows. This style is fearsome, and unsubtle.
+It's weapons are the Spear and the Hatchet and artefact versions thereof. It's practitioners are known as Stormcrows. This style is fearsome, and unsubtle. Its practitioners must know the art of intimidation and carry an imposing presence wherever they walk. They must have Presence 2+ to learn this Style.
 More fluff to go here eventually.
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 :: Tweaked. Bit more versatile, can now add up to Essence successes as well.
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 <b><i>Buffeting Wing Flurry</i></b>
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 ::: I think this is too good with the form charm active. For 1 mote it gives at minimum +3 to all DV's, at best +7. Most extreme case +9. With maxed out MA 10 vs Valour 5 it's still 1 mote for +5 to all DV's which is well above Solar equivalents. [[Bencyclopedia]]
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 <b><i>Gale-Riding Meditation</i></b>
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 :::: E. Maybe not but a daiklave is only +3 Acc, +6L. My point was that martial arts are general low damage until you add a form weapon.
 :::: F. War keyword means it's generally used in Mass Combat, capping only applies when you are in Mass Combat.
 === Comments for 2nd Ed version ===
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 Added subpages per Charm for old comments [[nikink]]

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 The Style evokes the bitter cold and ominous storms of the North, and the wisdom of the Crows which ride those cold winds proclaiming dire warnings to all they see. A dash of Odin within the Celestial Bureaucracy. Also, I wish it to travel from Essence 1, MA 2 minimums to an eventual peak of Essence 3, MA 5. It is meant to be a celestial style though, so if I've drastically under spec'd, then I'm willing to bump up. :)
-It's weapons are the Spear and the Hatchet and artefact versions thereof. It's practitioners are known as Stormcrows. This style is fearsome, and unsubtle.
+It's weapons are the Spear and the Hatchet and artefact versions thereof. It's practitioners are known as Stormcrows. This style is fearsome, and unsubtle. Its practitioners must know the art of intimidation and carry an imposing presence wherever they walk. They must have Presence 2+ to learn this Style.
 More fluff to go here eventually.
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 Why does Coming Storm Awareness affect social combat? This style doesn't apparently have any complementary training in social abilities to justify this, and social awareness is drastically different from martial, whether magical insight or otherwise. Martial arts is all about structured training to shape the natural expression of essence through charms in certain ways, so a style which gives social awareness would necessarily (especially in 2nd edition mechanics) employ social training. -- IanPrice (<i>and incidentally, bypassing perfect defenses is a time-honored trope of canon charms, what with all the sneak-attacks, extra attacks, and a few other examples; just to comment on your self-rules down there.</i>)
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		+	Why does Coming Storm Awareness affect social combat? This style doesn't apparently have any complementary training in social abilities to justify this, and social awareness is drastically different from martial, whether magical insight or otherwise. -- IanPrice (<i>and incidentally, bypassing perfect defenses is a time-honored trope of canon charms, what with all the sneak-attacks, extra attacks, and a few other examples; just to comment on your self-rules there.</i>)