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2010-06-09T00:26:45Z

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Nikink: /* Observer Comments */

2010-05-09T23:22:13Z

‎Observer Comments

Sabis: /* Observer Comments */

2010-05-09T16:25:25Z

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Muzz: /* Observer Comments */

2010-05-09T15:23:59Z

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Sabis: /* Observer Comments */ Fixed unfortunate wording.

2010-05-08T02:51:09Z

‎Observer Comments: Fixed unfortunate wording.

Sabis: /* Observer Comments */

2010-05-08T02:50:36Z

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Nikink: /* Observer Comments */

2010-05-08T00:35:59Z

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Sabis at 23:05, 7 May 2010

2010-05-07T23:05:54Z

Sabis: /* Away player */

2010-05-07T23:04:09Z

‎Away player

Sabis: /* Tick 11 */

2010-05-07T23:02:43Z

‎Tick 11

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 == Contestants ==
-[[Sabis/ErodingMountainoftheFaithful| Eroding Mountain of the Faithful]] - Jade Caste - Air Dragon Style
+[[Sabis/ErodingMountainoftheFaithful|Eroding Mountain of the Faithful]] - Jade Caste - Air Dragon Style
-[[IanPrice/GoldenSerpent| Golden Serpent]] - Dawn Caste - Snake Style
+[[IanPrice/GoldenSerpent|Golden Serpent]] - Dawn Caste - Snake Style
 . Full Essence 3 builds allowed.

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	::Not true. Aoshi has to look into things other then MA when she moves into the Ess 5 matches. if I was feeling particularly clever (and I would have to feel a damn sight clever) I could use her Destinys more and tailor her a little more that way, but I really cant be bothered for the payoff when compared to the pather she is going to take. [[Muzz]]		::Not true. Aoshi has to look into things other then MA when she moves into the Ess 5 matches. if I was feeling particularly clever (and I would have to feel a damn sight clever) I could use her Destinys more and tailor her a little more that way, but I really cant be bothered for the payoff when compared to the pather she is going to take. [[Muzz]]
	:::blink blink So... how is that doing anything besides combat focus? It's combat focus using primarily non-combat focused stuff (resplendence and such), but I hold that no one has to do anything but combat focus in these matches. It's no different than using Integrity charms to boost your DV's or Medicine charms to eliminate wound penalties and get more health levels.		:::blink blink So... how is that doing anything besides combat focus? It's combat focus using primarily non-combat focused stuff (resplendence and such), but I hold that no one has to do anything but combat focus in these matches. It's no different than using Integrity charms to boost your DV's or Medicine charms to eliminate wound penalties and get more health levels.
		+	:::Time wll tell. The point is that Alchemicals were designed to be approaching Solar level when monofocussed, and this power was balanced by the necessities of refits and being only Heroic Mortal (ish) level in every other area of endeavour while monofocussed. Thus I expect in these matches that Alchemicals will generally perform above their weight (so to speak). You are correct that their PDs cost 4m, vs a Solar PD of 3. But a Lunar PD is 6m and a Sidereal is 10m. So, they do approach Solar power in that regards. I look forward to being proved wrong when enough matches have finished that meaningful stats could be gleaned. :) [[nikink]]

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	:In these setups, no one has to do anything besides combat focus, so i think that part of your argument is extraneous. As far as Solar strength charms, not only are their charms less efficient (1-2 more motes per activation) they also cost permanent motes to have in the first place. Their essence pool calculations are smaller too. (for instance, I had a grant total of 19 motes to play with, 14 after form charm.) I expect they'll be more on level w/ Lunars in the long run... but I haven't gotten to run my Lunar yet. =) -[[Sabis]]		:In these setups, no one has to do anything besides combat focus, so i think that part of your argument is extraneous. As far as Solar strength charms, not only are their charms less efficient (1-2 more motes per activation) they also cost permanent motes to have in the first place. Their essence pool calculations are smaller too. (for instance, I had a grant total of 19 motes to play with, 14 after form charm.) I expect they'll be more on level w/ Lunars in the long run... but I haven't gotten to run my Lunar yet. =) -[[Sabis]]
	::Not true. Aoshi has to look into things other then MA when she moves into the Ess 5 matches. if I was feeling particularly clever (and I would have to feel a damn sight clever) I could use her Destinys more and tailor her a little more that way, but I really cant be bothered for the payoff when compared to the pather she is going to take. [[Muzz]]		::Not true. Aoshi has to look into things other then MA when she moves into the Ess 5 matches. if I was feeling particularly clever (and I would have to feel a damn sight clever) I could use her Destinys more and tailor her a little more that way, but I really cant be bothered for the payoff when compared to the pather she is going to take. [[Muzz]]
		+	:::blink blink So... how is that doing anything besides combat focus? It's combat focus using primarily non-combat focused stuff (resplendence and such), but I hold that no one has to do anything but combat focus in these matches. It's no different than using Integrity charms to boost your DV's or Medicine charms to eliminate wound penalties and get more health levels.

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	Wow. Another shorter than expected match! As I noted in the comments for Match 7, in some ways this format is weighted to the advantage of Alchemicals, who are written and designed to be Solar strength when mono-focussed but completely lacking in every other area when they do that focussing. In this Kombat, they only have to mono-focus, so requiring charms towards survival, craft... ''anything'' non-combat related is unnecessary, and no refit times for charm swapping either. Not that this really matters, but I would expect, given enough matches, that the Alchemical contestants tend to score as highly as Solars. Time will tell if my theory is right I suppose. :) [[nikink]]		Wow. Another shorter than expected match! As I noted in the comments for Match 7, in some ways this format is weighted to the advantage of Alchemicals, who are written and designed to be Solar strength when mono-focussed but completely lacking in every other area when they do that focussing. In this Kombat, they only have to mono-focus, so requiring charms towards survival, craft... ''anything'' non-combat related is unnecessary, and no refit times for charm swapping either. Not that this really matters, but I would expect, given enough matches, that the Alchemical contestants tend to score as highly as Solars. Time will tell if my theory is right I suppose. :) [[nikink]]
	:In these setups, no one has to do anything besides combat focus, so i think that part of your argument is extraneous. As far as Solar strength charms, not only are their charms less efficient (1-2 more motes per activation) they also cost permanent motes to have in the first place. Their essence pool calculations are smaller too. (for instance, I had a grant total of 19 motes to play with, 14 after form charm.) I expect they'll be more on level w/ Lunars in the long run... but I haven't gotten to run my Lunar yet. =) -[[Sabis]]		:In these setups, no one has to do anything besides combat focus, so i think that part of your argument is extraneous. As far as Solar strength charms, not only are their charms less efficient (1-2 more motes per activation) they also cost permanent motes to have in the first place. Their essence pool calculations are smaller too. (for instance, I had a grant total of 19 motes to play with, 14 after form charm.) I expect they'll be more on level w/ Lunars in the long run... but I haven't gotten to run my Lunar yet. =) -[[Sabis]]
		+	::Not true. Aoshi has to look into things other then MA when she moves into the Ess 5 matches. if I was feeling particularly clever (and I would have to feel a damn sight clever) I could use her Destinys more and tailor her a little more that way, but I really cant be bothered for the payoff when compared to the pather she is going to take. [[Muzz]]

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	Wow. Another shorter than expected match! As I noted in the comments for Match 7, in some ways this format is weighted to the advantage of Alchemicals, who are written and designed to be Solar strength when mono-focussed but completely lacking in every other area when they do that focussing. In this Kombat, they only have to mono-focus, so requiring charms towards survival, craft... ''anything'' non-combat related is unnecessary, and no refit times for charm swapping either. Not that this really matters, but I would expect, given enough matches, that the Alchemical contestants tend to score as highly as Solars. Time will tell if my theory is right I suppose. :) [[nikink]]		Wow. Another shorter than expected match! As I noted in the comments for Match 7, in some ways this format is weighted to the advantage of Alchemicals, who are written and designed to be Solar strength when mono-focussed but completely lacking in every other area when they do that focussing. In this Kombat, they only have to mono-focus, so requiring charms towards survival, craft... ''anything'' non-combat related is unnecessary, and no refit times for charm swapping either. Not that this really matters, but I would expect, given enough matches, that the Alchemical contestants tend to score as highly as Solars. Time will tell if my theory is right I suppose. :) [[nikink]]
−	:In these setups, no one has to do anything besides combat focus, so i think that part of your argument is ~~irrelevant~~. As far as Solar strength charms, not only are their charms less efficient (1-2 more motes per activation) they also cost permanent motes to have in the first place. Their essence pool calculations are smaller too. (for instance, I had a grant total of 19 motes to play with, 14 after form charm.) I expect they'll be more on level w/ Lunars in the long run... but I haven't gotten to run my Lunar yet. =) -[[Sabis]]	+	:In these setups, no one has to do anything besides combat focus, so i think that part of your argument is extraneous. As far as Solar strength charms, not only are their charms less efficient (1-2 more motes per activation) they also cost permanent motes to have in the first place. Their essence pool calculations are smaller too. (for instance, I had a grant total of 19 motes to play with, 14 after form charm.) I expect they'll be more on level w/ Lunars in the long run... but I haven't gotten to run my Lunar yet. =) -[[Sabis]]

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	Wow. Another shorter than expected match! As I noted in the comments for Match 7, in some ways this format is weighted to the advantage of Alchemicals, who are written and designed to be Solar strength when mono-focussed but completely lacking in every other area when they do that focussing. In this Kombat, they only have to mono-focus, so requiring charms towards survival, craft... ''anything'' non-combat related is unnecessary, and no refit times for charm swapping either. Not that this really matters, but I would expect, given enough matches, that the Alchemical contestants tend to score as highly as Solars. Time will tell if my theory is right I suppose. :) [[nikink]]		Wow. Another shorter than expected match! As I noted in the comments for Match 7, in some ways this format is weighted to the advantage of Alchemicals, who are written and designed to be Solar strength when mono-focussed but completely lacking in every other area when they do that focussing. In this Kombat, they only have to mono-focus, so requiring charms towards survival, craft... ''anything'' non-combat related is unnecessary, and no refit times for charm swapping either. Not that this really matters, but I would expect, given enough matches, that the Alchemical contestants tend to score as highly as Solars. Time will tell if my theory is right I suppose. :) [[nikink]]
		+	:In these setups, no one has to do anything besides combat focus, so i think that part of your argument is irrelevant. As far as Solar strength charms, not only are their charms less efficient (1-2 more motes per activation) they also cost permanent motes to have in the first place. Their essence pool calculations are smaller too. (for instance, I had a grant total of 19 motes to play with, 14 after form charm.) I expect they'll be more on level w/ Lunars in the long run... but I haven't gotten to run my Lunar yet. =) -[[Sabis]]

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	: The errata on the official wiki even clarifies that this is the case, you can only leap once per action. - [[Bencyclopedia]]		: The errata on the official wiki even clarifies that this is the case, you can only leap once per action. - [[Bencyclopedia]]
	::No more than one jump per action. (Scroll of Eratta, page 15: [You may jump] "Only once every 5 ticks, as normal.") -[[Sabis]]		::No more than one jump per action. (Scroll of Eratta, page 15: [You may jump] "Only once every 5 ticks, as normal.") -[[Sabis]]
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		+	Wow. Another shorter than expected match! As I noted in the comments for Match 7, in some ways this format is weighted to the advantage of Alchemicals, who are written and designed to be Solar strength when mono-focussed but completely lacking in every other area when they do that focussing. In this Kombat, they only have to mono-focus, so requiring charms towards survival, craft... ''anything'' non-combat related is unnecessary, and no refit times for charm swapping either. Not that this really matters, but I would expect, given enough matches, that the Alchemical contestants tend to score as highly as Solars. Time will tell if my theory is right I suppose. :) [[nikink]]

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 ''This is a layout stolen from [[TrialBySchmendrick]] to facilitate an On-line Match in ImmortalKombat.''
-'''Trial started:''' Tuesday, May 5, 2010 2:44PM PDT<br>
+'''Trial started:''' Tuesday, May 4, 2010 2:44PM PDT<br>
-'''Trial completed:''' {date}
+'''Trial completed:''' Friday, May 7, 2010 7:05PM PDT<br>
 == Contestants ==

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 Alternitively, Sans soak/enhancers etc, Anyone with a perfect defense can ignore that combo. It's not really broken at all, just good. It's one of many "Perfect or die" situations, but it is a bit lower on the end, as it requires a large attack pool from your opponent to work, and fails to other counterattack based builds.  Ping spamming a lot of attacks at low dice also renders it less effective.
-Finding that a particular style having a particular weakness to specific builds is what this whole thing is all about. =)
+Finding that a particular style has a particular weakness to specific builds is one of many things that IK is about. =)
 I don't think that says alchemical are better defenders, but they are better at hardness based defenses than solars. Solars are better (more efficient, less charms) at dodge and parry based perfects.

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	Serpent splashes into the muck, rising and coughing, blinking as he sees Mountain's unscratched carapace. He stands as he can, then bows slightly and offers his weapons. "I can offer no stronger attack. I apologize for my insolence. Please accept my surrender, and allow me to send word to my men so they may negotiate my release."		Serpent splashes into the muck, rising and coughing, blinking as he sees Mountain's unscratched carapace. He stands as he can, then bows slightly and offers his weapons. "I can offer no stronger attack. I apologize for my insolence. Please accept my surrender, and allow me to send word to my men so they may negotiate my release."
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		+	"Your surrender is unnecessary. You may go as you please. I have learned, and now must meditate on this wisdom." Mountain bows, turns, and walks away into the swamp.

	== Conclusions ==		== Conclusions ==