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Written for grins and giggles by [[MunificentPerception | Munificent Perception]]

== Problematizing the Question ==

I suppose that assigning a rating of "greatest" depends on what aspect of generalship you rate as most critical to winning battles and wars.

Is it:

1. …the ability to create a maneuver and logistical plan that brings the right elements to the right place at the right time on the right battlefield?

2. …the ability to actually execute the plan despite the friction and fog of war?

3. …the ability to survive the complete breakdown of the plan and adapt to unanticipated conditions?

4. …the ability to inspire troops — which is a serious force multiplier — ?

5. …the ability to anticipate an enemy’s actions?

Also, do you define winning as achieving tactical victories on a battlefield, or is it the strategic ability to weave a series of battlefield victories into a successful campaign that achieves your desired ends?

Not everyone can do this: Some armies have won every battle only to loose the war.

I imagine that the Mars and her immediate subordinates in the Crimson Panoply of Victory are frighteningly good at executing successful campaigns — using even marginal battlefield victories to further their aims and turning defeats into strategic advantages.

The Unconquered Sun probably excels at winning battlefield victories and inspiring his troops.

I can easily see Luna as the mistress of battlefield chaos and fluid adaptability.

== My Conclusions ==

1) '''Mars'''……the very incarnation of war.

2) '''The Unconquered Sun'''……god of all-around [[The Unconquered Sun as the God of Excellence | excellence]].

3) '''Hu Dai Liang'''….Lord General of heaven’s Division of Battles.

4) '''Luna'''…….goddess of cyclical change, nature, adaptability and survival.

5) '''The First and Forsake Lion'''……Imagine Essence 10 Solar War Charms!

6) '''Leviathan'''…….An ancient western Lunar with high Essence War Charms.

7) '''Creation’s five regional gods of war'''……..Ahlat, Siakal, Sunipa, etc…

8) '''Octavian'''……Demon general who has carved out a vast empire within Malfeas.

9) '''Cathak Cainan'''…….Elder Dragon-Blooded general with potent War Charms.

10) '''Local war gods and lesser members of the Crimson Panoply'''……Divinities such as Shield of a Different Day, Tien Yu and lesser members of the divine Bureau of War.

From here on down the list is dominated by The Bull of the North, various Lookshy Strategoi and Realm generals, including Tepet Ejava.

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===== Comments, counter opinions? =====
I imagine Tien Yu might slot in there somewhere. - [[Trithne]]

*''Yikes! I just looked over her stats in the new Scavenger Lands book. She’s certainly impressive compared with her 1st ed., Outcast book description. I’ll put her on the list. Thanks.'' ~MunificentPerception

I would be entirely unsurprised if the Lion and Leviathan were better than Hu Dai and Luna, just based on the difference between god charms and exalt charms - but that is an argument that's been had a hundred times. -TheHoverpope

*''Tien Yu has a number of potent War Charms in the 2nd ed. Scavenger Lands book. I imagine that Hu Dai Liang’s second edition Charms are several times more frightening than those. At least that was my reasoning behind her placement.'' ~ MunificentPerception

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 I imagine Tien Yu might slot in there somewhere. - [[Trithne]]
-*''Yikes! I just looked over her stats in the new Scavenger Lands book. She’s certainly impressive compared with her 1st ed., Outcast book description. I’ll put her on the list. Thanks.'' ~MunificentPerception
+*''Yikes! I just looked over her stats in the new Scavenger Lands book. She’s certainly impressive compared with her 1st ed., Outcast book description. I’ll put her on the list. Thanks.'' ~[[MunificentPerception]]
-I would be entirely unsurprised if the Lion and Leviathan were better than Hu Dai and Luna, just based on the difference between god charms and exalt charms - but that is an argument that's been had a hundred times. -TheHoverpope
+I would be entirely unsurprised if the Lion and Leviathan were better than Hu Dai and Luna, just based on the difference between god charms and exalt charms - but that is an argument that's been had a hundred times. -[[TheHoverpope]]
-*''Tien Yu has a number of potent War Charms in the 2nd ed. Scavenger Lands book. I imagine that Hu Dai Liang’s second edition Charms are several times more frightening than those. At least that was my reasoning behind her placement.'' ~ MunificentPerception
+*''Tien Yu has a number of potent War Charms in the 2nd ed. Scavenger Lands book. I imagine that Hu Dai Liang’s second edition Charms are several times more frightening than those. At least that was my reasoning behind her placement.'' ~ [[MunificentPerception]]