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 :::I guess I had in mind more that the concept would be banished to, well, nothing, and that it would then be produced <i>ex nihilo</i> on use of the second secret, but that is mostly quibbling over an absolutely tiny point.<br>As for the Deathlords, what holds them isn't a name as such.  I've always thought that they were essentially giving away the ability to even <i>have</i> a name, and so are reliant for their continued existence on entities that definitely do not have names anymore (the Malfeans), and on the meerest substitute for a name: a title.  But that's my opinion, and is obviously not canon (by a few galaxy-widths, at least, authority-wise).  If it  works better to think of the Deathlords as having a secret <b>True Name</b>, by all means, that's the way to go.  I'm just leery of effects, no matter what their source, that can alter the core fundamentals of the setting.  On the other hand, I've been working with a friend to try and figure out a way to use material from <i>Time of Tumult</i> and other places for his players to eventually defeat Mask of Winters, so there you go.  ^_^<br>Another thought: Banishing a randomly encountered sword with the word "sword" (or its appropriate mystical equivalent) might be easier than, say banishing a Daiklave with the appropriate words therefor, but it seems that it would be easier if one happened to know the Name of the specific sword.  Perhaps allowing for some degree of chance in having an incomplete Name for the object to be banished, while slightly weakening the effect, would be a better way to go.  It would also provide an even more sensible way to explain, for example, why it's so difficult to banish the Princess Magnificent with this charm.  Essentially, it's possible, but one must find sufficient Name-age to use against her, and huge chunks of that are swallowed by the Nothing. (Yes, that's a <i>gratuitous</i> <i><b>The Neverending Story</b></i> reference ^_^ ) -[[Suzume]]
-::::If someone uses that Charm to alter huge chunks of the setting, it's their Storyteller's fault for making it too easy for them to learn the respective thing's True Name.  As I said, I would consider learning a Deathlord's True Name to be a five thousand year quest ... that means that you are <b>not</b> going to accomplish it (at least, not in any game anyone I respect would run) unless the Storyteller intends you to and finds a way to hand you the True Name on some sort of metaphorical silver platter.<br>How about I say that using that banishing Charm on an unspecific True Name like "sword" just means that it works on all the swords "in range" (to be left up to the Storyteller) that aren't too complex?  This both powers it down and up and means that a Stylist might have to think hard before using less specific Names.  I would prefer to avoid involving rolls with the invocation of these Charms, and that's what would be necessary to make there be a chance of failure with a lesser Name.<br>I'm confused about your first point.  I'd think that having these Charms conjure out of thin air would be more in line with that, not less.<Br>~ [[Shataina]]
+::::If someone uses that Charm to alter huge chunks of the setting, it's their Storyteller's fault for making it too easy for them to learn the respective thing's True Name.  As I said, I would consider learning a Deathlord's True Name to be a five thousand year quest ... that means that you are <b>not</b> going to accomplish it (at least, not in any game anyone I respect would run) unless the Storyteller intends you to and finds a way to hand you the True Name on some sort of metaphorical silver platter.<br>How about I say that using that banishing Charm on an unspecific True Name like "sword" just means that it works on all the swords "in range" (to be left up to the Storyteller) that aren't too complex?  This both powers it down and up and means that a Stylist might have to think hard before using less specific Names.  I would prefer to avoid involving rolls with the invocation of these Charms, and that's what would be necessary to make there be a chance of failure with a lesser Name.<br>I'm confused about your first point.  I'd think that having these Charms conjure out of thin air would be more in line with that, not less.<br>~ [[Shataina]]
 :::Since the Deathlords and Abyssals have their names devoured and made nonexistent, obviously to learn one you'll have to invoke the name back into existence with Secret Technique #2 and then somehow find out what it is. Learning the True Name's True Name is left as an exercise for the student. -[[Ben-San]]

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