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What level is this? It looks like Terrestrial to me...am I right? -[[Dorchadas]]

:No. It's Celestial. Why, do you think it's too weak? - [[Seiraryu]]

::*nods* Though I'm not sure what to do about it while still maintaining the non-lethal format. Exalted Martial Arts aren't really my forte--so I suppose it could be incorrect perception on my part. -[[Dorchadas]]

:::Well, it's still missing a Charm or two. I've got a Charm that comes up after this last one that'll put things in perspective. Hehe. Also, try to remember that you can use a TETSUBO with this thing...that's pretty harsh; and it's perfectly compatible with armor, which is a large bonus for Martial Artists. - [[Seiraryu]]

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very Native American Bear Spirit. A couple of Questions tho,why is Frustrated Bear Method need the form gives an auto knockdown anyway, and why is this Martial Art tree so charm starved before Form? Other than those small quibbles i really like the style i've never seen a comlpletely peacful MA in Exalted i really think it's an idea who's time has come. - [[Issaru]]

:two charms before form isn't unusual for basic celestial styles. Especially animal based styles. It tends to be only the more powerful and strange celestial styles that have more than two or three before the form. -- [[Darloth]]

::I was going to say exactly that, Darloth. If you consider this Style Charm starved before the Form Charm, then you must consider Snake Style the same, yes? Remember, this Style is just mostly completed. Not entirely so yet. As to why Frustrated Bear Method is necessary: because the Form Charm makes THROWS count as automatic Knockback / Knockdown...and just throws. - [[Seiraryu]]

:::I was trying to say that since they both do no damage they are mechanically the same and as far as Snake style goes it Blows in the cannon write up.Don't get me wrong i love the style i was just offering suggestions not flames - [[Issaru]]

::::Oh, no flame taken--I was just responding in my own, heavy way. One of the reasons it's only got 2 Charms before the Form Charm is because I was running out of ideas. >.< It could use revision, that much is for sure. - [[Seiraryu]]

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Hmm. About the Form ... "it takes no time for opponents to heal the "damage" done with this Charm". What does that mean? If it truly takes no time, then opponents of a character using Merciful Bear Form will literally never be incapacitated. I'm assuming you mean that it takes no time, after the fight, for the damage to fade. In any case, I would suggest changing it to always deal bashing damage, with the note that either the bashing damage never rolls over into Lethal, as the Errata describes, or that while it does roll over into Lethal, the target won't die from it. I'll think on this a bit, and offer some more complete thoughts later. - [[David.]]

:This is something that I, too, have been thinking on. I think I will change it to the "damage" being "healed" completely during one scene. That way, the character is still under penalty for an entire scene after the fight. Also, the character will never die from the "damage." How's that? - [[Seiraryu]]

::Hmm. I think I'd reword the Form entirely, actually. Don't refer to the "damage". Instead, refer to the penalties, and explain when those fade. That seems the most elegant solution to me. - [[David.]]

:::Done, o'course. - [[Seiraryu]]

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 :two charms before form isn't unusual for basic celestial styles. Especially animal based styles. It tends to be only the more powerful and strange celestial styles that have more than two or three before the form.<br> -- [[Darloth]]
-::I was going to say exactly that, Darloth. If you consider this Style Charm starved before the Form Charm, then you must consider Snake Style the same, yes? Remember, this Style is just <B>mostly[[MartialArts/MercifulBearStyleComments/B]]> completed. Not entirely so yet. As to why Frustrated Bear Method is necessary: because the Form Charm makes THROWS count as automatic Knockback / Knockdown...and <b>just[[MartialArts/MercifulBearStyleComments/B]]> throws. - [[Seiraryu]]
+::I was going to say exactly that, Darloth. If you consider this Style Charm starved before the Form Charm, then you must consider Snake Style the same, yes? Remember, this Style is just <B>mostly</B> completed. Not entirely so yet. As to why Frustrated Bear Method is necessary: because the Form Charm makes THROWS count as automatic Knockback / Knockdown...and <b>just</B> throws. - [[Seiraryu]]
 :::I was trying to say that since they both do no damage they are mechanically the same and as far as Snake style goes it Blows in the cannon write up.Don't get me wrong i love the style i was just offering suggestions not flames - [[Issaru]]

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 :two charms before form isn't unusual for basic celestial styles. Especially animal based styles. It tends to be only the more powerful and strange celestial styles that have more than two or three before the form.<br> -- [[Darloth]]
-::I was going to say exactly that, Darloth. If you consider this Style Charm starved before the Form Charm, then you must consider Snake Style the same, yes? Remember, this Style is just <B>mostly</B> completed. Not entirely so yet. As to why Frustrated Bear Method is necessary: because the Form Charm makes THROWS count as automatic Knockback / Knockdown...and <b>just</B> throws. - [[Seiraryu]]
+::I was going to say exactly that, Darloth. If you consider this Style Charm starved before the Form Charm, then you must consider Snake Style the same, yes? Remember, this Style is just <B>mostly[[MartialArts/MercifulBearStyleComments/B]]> completed. Not entirely so yet. As to why Frustrated Bear Method is necessary: because the Form Charm makes THROWS count as automatic Knockback / Knockdown...and <b>just[[MartialArts/MercifulBearStyleComments/B]]> throws. - [[Seiraryu]]
 :::I was trying to say that since they both do no damage they are mechanically the same and as far as Snake style goes it Blows in the cannon write up.Don't get me wrong i love the style i was just offering suggestions not flames - [[Issaru]]