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This page is intended for discussion of the decoding of the Exalted character set. Note: this is now kind of useless since we have a key to the character sets in the "[[Books/ExaltedPlayersGuide|Players' Guide]]", but we might as well leave it up.

This is not a page for linguistic houserules or extra Exalted languages; to find pages like that, please go to [[Abilities/Linguistics]]. 
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Subject: Realm Script?
JabberwockyX - 12/06/2003 22:31:37 - jabberwocky_x@yahoo.com

This has all been done before. Sadly, I can't find the extended
document on Realm Script, but Alabrax's site has pretty exhaustive
documentation on Lunar Script:

http://alabrax.com/exalted/fanworks/lunar_script_tutorial.htm

I have a more recent version of the Realm character set than that on
Alabrax's site; I'm not sure where it came from, but one should assume
that someone has documented the various nuances somewhere, though I
recall that DS' conclusion is correct, though I don't remember if
there're any guidelines for if a letter-pair is reversed or not, other
than the word that should result.

Subject: Realm Script?
corlandashiva - 12/07/2003 16:27:58 - matthew_siddall@hotmail.com

I saved these from here a while ago:

Subject: realm script for alabrax
l0rdshaper - 03/03/2003 13:32:28 - l0rdshaper@hotmail.com

i was asked last friday to do list my realm script
translation, so i went about trying to find away for
everyone to do it.

you'll need:
your exalted core book
the dragon blooded book
the making of cd (recomended)
a piece of paper
pen or pencil
and a ruler

start off by making a chart that should be 6 coloms and 19
rows. leave the first tile (the spot that is in the first
row and first coloumn) blank. fill in the rest of the
first row with the five vowels a, e, i, o, u. in the first
coloumn, in the tile below the blank one, place a dot.
below that tile, fill in the remainding tiles in that
column with the following consenants: b, k, ch, d, f, g, h,
l, m, n, p, r, s, t, v, x, y.

it should look kinda like this:

<nowiki>===a==e==i==o==u==</nowiki>\\
<nowiki>* |</nowiki>\\
<nowiki>b |</nowiki>\\
<nowiki>k |</nowiki>\\
<nowiki>ch|</nowiki>\\
<nowiki>d |</nowiki>\\
<nowiki>f |</nowiki>\\

and so on till y.

each of the remaining tiles should be numbered, but leave
space to draw the actual realm script character in the
box. the first five boxes are for vowels only, and should
be labled 1 trough 5, the ba, be, bi, bo, bu boxes should
be labled 6 through 10, and so on. there should be ninety
boxes.

before we start i should point some things out. the realm
script is made up of phonyms, vowel consenant pairs, and
the five vowels. there is no c, only a k, and there is a
ch (and its possible that words with sh would use ch
characters). there is no z, but instead an x. not all of
this will become explicitly clear with the instructions
below, UNLESS YOU HAVE THE MAKING OF CD. for those of you
that don't, just know that verification can be found on the
cd.

now, pull out your exalted core book. i'm going to break
down each word presented, tell you how its constructed
phonetically, and then give you the corresponding box/tile
number for that symbol. you can then fill that symbol in
the box and you'll have that phonim letter. numbers in ()
mean that its the first time that symbol is used, if you
see a number with out parentheses then you don't have to
fill it in any more. double parens (()) means that that
symbol justifies the line your filling it in, meaning that
that sumbol proves that evey thing within that row is part
of the "k" or "s" group. triple parens ((())) means that
with that symbol, you should have completed the row.

here goes.

turn to the first page of the introduction (the first page
with text). down the left side margin is the
word "exalted", on the opposite page is the
word "introduction", you can also find the word exalted on
the spine of the book.

E-XA-LA-TE-DE
((2))-((81))-((41))-((72))-((22))

fill those tiles in

I-TO-RO-DU-KU-TI-O-NO
(3)-(74)-((64))-(25)-((15))-(73)-(4)-((54))

fill those in. now turn to the first page of text in
chapter one. you should see "exalted" down the left margin
again, and on the opposite page instead of "introduction"
you should see "chapter". subsequent chapters will give
you some idea of the numbering system.

CHA-PE-TE-RE
((16))-((56))-72-(62)

fill those in. i hope this is starting to make sense,
because now i'm going to speed things up. now turn to the
realm section of the settings chapter, specifically to the
dynastic houses description, more script here.

VE-NE-E-FE
((76))-(52)-2-((27))

RA-GA-RA
(61)-((31))-61

SI-NA-SI
((68))-(51)-68

KA-TAHA-KA
(11)-(71)((36))-11

notice how "th" is handled. its much different in claw
speak.

NA-LE-LE-NA-SE
51-(42)-42-51-(67)

MENE-MO-NO
((47))52-(49)-54

SE-SU-SU
67-(70)-70

I-SE-LE-SI
3-67-42-68

the first time we see a word who's characters we already
have!

LE-DAlA-LA
42-(21)-(1)-41

PA-LE-PA-SE
56-42-56-67

now, this is all you can do with your core book, lets turn
to the dragon blooded book, i'll start a new post for that,
please don't post till i'm finished.

Subject: Realm Script?
corlandashiva - 12/07/2003 16:29:06 - matthew_siddall@hotmail.com

Subject: realm script for alabrax
l0rdshaper - 03/03/2003 14:08:56 - l0rdshaper@hotmail.com

okay, get out your dragon blooded book.

notice down the spine, or in the left margin of the left of
any left page, below the word exalted (which you got from
the core book) is the word "dragon blooded"

DA-RA-GO-NO-BO-LO-O-DE-DE
21-61-(34)-54-((9))-(44)-4-22-22

from this point forward, the rest of the symols can be
found on the map in the dragon blooded book, i'll give the
city name, its phonetic spelling, and then the
corresponding tile number.

eagles launch

E-A-GA-LE-SE
2-1-31-42-67

eye of creation
E-YE
2-((87))

O-FO
4-(29)

KE-RE-A-TI-O-NO
(12)-62-1-73-4-54

notice how "of" is handled, its quite different in claw
speak.

bright obelisk

BI-RI-TE
(8)-(63)-72

O-BE-LI-SI-KI
4-(7)-(43)-68-(13)

traiter

TA-RA-I-TE-RE
71-61-3-72-62

lords crossing

LO-RO-DO-SO
44-64-(24)-(((69)))

KO-RO-SO-I-NO-GI
(((14)))-64-69-3-54-(33)

you should now have comleted the "s" and "k" rows!

arjuf

A-RA-GU-FU
1-61-(35)-(30)

i wish i could edit on this forum. i forgot to mention,
there is no "j", only a "g". woops.

the heptagram

HE-PE-DETA-GA-RA-MA
(37)-(57)-22 71-31-61-(46)

portee

PO-RO-TE-E
(59)-62-72-2

tuchara

TU-CHA-RA
(((75)))-16-61

you should now have completed the "t" row, joy!

nichimo

NI-CHI-MO
(53)-(17)-49

chanos

CHA-NO-SO
16-54-69

imperial city

I-ME-PE-DERI-A-LA
3-47-57-22 63-1-41

SI-TE
68-72

sion

SI-O-NO
68-4-54

noble

NO-BO-LE
54-9-42

and thats it!

thats all you get from the books. you should have 1-4, 7-
9, 11-17, 21-22, 24-25, 27, 29-31, 33-37, 41-44, 46-49, 51-
54, 56-59, 61-64, 66, 68-70, 71-75, 77, 81, and 87.

IF YOU HAVE THE MAKING OF CD
there is a section where they flip through the art bible,
it shows the first age letters (which are basically myan,
they are pictagrams and near impossible to replicate from
the cd) and a chart (exactly what you created) with the
realm script. this is how i can independantly verify what
i just presented. i could make out the following from the
cd:

5, 6, 10, 18-20, 23, 26-28, 32, 40, 50, 55, 60, 76, 78, 80,
82, 83-85, 86, 88-90.

thes ones that i don't have or couldn't make out.

38-39, 45, 48, 58, 65, 67

from the book, total:58
from the cd, total:25
total known: 83
missing, total:7

that means that you'll get about 64% of the characters from
the two books. you'll get an additional 28% from the cd.
thats 92% known, and about 8% unknown.

NOTE*- if you have the lunars book, the whole thing is done
in claw speak, except for the spine, which has the lunars
writen in realm script. unfortunately, i can't make out
the symbol, and have yet to go back trought the cd to match
it up.

well folks, enjoy, i'll post my notes on claw speak a
little later.

-L

Subject: Realm Script?
corlandashiva - 12/07/2003 16:31:05 - matthew_siddall@hotmail.com

and lastly:

Subject: realm script for alabrax
l0rdshaper - 03/03/2003 16:00:49 - l0rdshaper@hotmail.com

just noticed that i only gave you the eagle from eagles
launch

LA-A-NA-CHA
41-1-51-16

that shouldn't have screwed anything up though, you would
have already had those symbols.

-L

Subject: realm script for alabrax
l0rdshaper - 03/04/2003 11:10:08 - l0rdshaper@hotmail.com

arg, just noticed some other things, and that we should be
doing this on the other thread, oh well.

i'm quite sure that "of" is O-VU, not O-VO. look at how
the V is conjigated again. i stared at all of the "of"
examples for quite some time.

secondly. there is no "z" its an "x". or they are just
inter changeable. i'd still go with "x" because its more
versitile. it can be used for both sounds.
also, "exalted" is pronounced eks-al-ted, and is written

E-__A-LA-TE-DE

so i would guess that in both the case of realm script and
claw speak, thats an "x".

-L

Subject: Realm Script?
fourwillows - 12/08/2003 15:01:22

It's possible that they're applying a system used in the Mayan syllabary, which
I've heard called the "Principle of Synharmony".

The principle is this: If two adjacent consonant/vowel glyphs have the same
vowel, one of the vowels is not spoken.

So, if you're trying to say for instance "Nancy", you write it: na-na-si, and the
second 'a' is elided.

Subject: Realm Script?
wordman - 01/16/04 18:33:22

This system is very similar to [http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana Katakana], the writing used in Japan to write foreign words. Japanese is based on time, where each "sound" is spoken for the same length of time. Non-Japanese words do not usually do this. Take something like the English word "teeth". It has three sounds a "te" sound a long "ee" sound and a "th" sound. In Katakana, it would be more like te-ee-fu (there is no "th" sound in Japanese). In the writing, the first character would be the te character and the last would be the fu symbol. The long ee sound is more complicated. To illustrate holding the long e sound, a horiontal line is used to mean "hold the vowel sound of the last character for a beat".

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I would like to thank Colin Chapman for laboriously copying the images of the Imperial Script from the video to get these images. He was the one that created the following image files...

[http://webpages.charter.net/Wocky/2ndAgeImperial1.jpg http://webpages.charter.net/Wocky/2ndAgeImperial1.jpg]\\
[http://webpages.charter.net/Wocky/2ndAgeImperial2.jpg http://webpages.charter.net/Wocky/2ndAgeImperial2.jpg]\\
[http://webpages.charter.net/Wocky/2ndAgeImperial3.jpg http://webpages.charter.net/Wocky/2ndAgeImperial3.jpg]\\
\\
-[[Alabrax]]

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