<?xml version="1.0"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xml:lang="en">
		<id>http://exalted.xi.co.nz/w/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=JesseLowe%2FGuildWagons</id>
		<title>JesseLowe/GuildWagons - Revision history</title>
		<link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://exalted.xi.co.nz/w/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=JesseLowe%2FGuildWagons"/>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://exalted.xi.co.nz/w/index.php?title=JesseLowe/GuildWagons&amp;action=history"/>
		<updated>2026-04-09T18:04:51Z</updated>
		<subtitle>Revision history for this page on the wiki</subtitle>
		<generator>MediaWiki 1.29.0</generator>

	<entry>
		<id>http://exalted.xi.co.nz/w/index.php?title=JesseLowe/GuildWagons&amp;diff=79529&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Wordman: Script: fix links messed up in conversion</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://exalted.xi.co.nz/w/index.php?title=JesseLowe/GuildWagons&amp;diff=79529&amp;oldid=prev"/>
				<updated>2010-06-08T21:33:03Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Script: fix links messed up in conversion&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table class=&quot;diff diff-contentalign-left&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class='diff-marker' /&gt;
				&lt;col class='diff-content' /&gt;
				&lt;col class='diff-marker' /&gt;
				&lt;col class='diff-content' /&gt;
				&lt;tr style='vertical-align: top;' lang='en'&gt;
				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:33, 8 June 2010&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l59&quot; &gt;Line 59:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 59:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;----&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;----&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Incidentally, I go along with the idea that a yeddim is a baluchitherium or indricotherium. [[http:&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;//images.google.com&lt;/del&gt;/images?q=baluchitherium&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search | Google search for baluchitherium pictures]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Incidentally, I go along with the idea that a yeddim is a baluchitherium or indricotherium. [[http:/images?q=baluchitherium&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search|Google search for baluchitherium pictures]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;----&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;----&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also incidentally, a yeddim powered railroad is a distinct possibility, since on rails, each yeddim could pull twice as much.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also incidentally, a yeddim powered railroad is a distinct possibility, since on rails, each yeddim could pull twice as much.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wordman</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://exalted.xi.co.nz/w/index.php?title=JesseLowe/GuildWagons&amp;diff=23994&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>JesseLowe: *</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://exalted.xi.co.nz/w/index.php?title=JesseLowe/GuildWagons&amp;diff=23994&amp;oldid=prev"/>
				<updated>2004-10-03T14:31:18Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Each wagon is crewed by five teamsters (Regular folks, extras), is drawn by 2 yeddim, and is about the size of a box car (shaped a bit differently, though). Three wheels to a side, minimum. It can hold up to ten tons of cargo, and weighs about four tons. (I think: How much can a single yeddim pull as cargo? What are the structural constraints of Age of Sorrows wagon manufacture?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A yeddim has strength 14. This is enough for a human-sized biped to lift 2000 pounds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What are the effects of:&lt;br /&gt;
# A yeddim's different construction? (Strong quadraped)&lt;br /&gt;
# Dragging instead of lifting?&lt;br /&gt;
# Wheeled wagons?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
GURPS seems to be the way to go here, actually...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yeddim (GURPS 4th edition)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ST 35 (Basic Lift: 250 lbs +/- a few pounds) (For non-GURPSers, that's how much the yeddim can lift easily and quickly, say, with a toss of its head.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
30 hexes (10 x 3)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Move 4&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Maximum drag: 3,750 pounds raw, 75,000 pounds on a four-wheeled wagon (including the weight of the wagon).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore: 1 yeddim can pull a 30-ton wagon comfortably for a full day. Multiply this capacity by the number of yeddim pulling the wagon, but bear in mind the eventual impracticality of really big wagons. At a certain point (around 8 yeddim, I think) it's easier to have many smaller wagons than one big wagon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, a passel of wagons for your perusal:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All wagons move at an average human walking speed. They can go faster, but this requires a successful Dex + Survival roll to handle the yeddim; the difficulty for this roll is given for each wagon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 1-yeddim wagon ===&lt;br /&gt;
When loaded, this wagon weighs approximately 30 tons. The driver sits in a cab far atop the box or seated on the yeddim as a mahout. Typically, this wagon will have two crew members, a driver and a handler. The driver guides the wagon while the handler does a variety of miscellaneous tasks. A 1-yeddim wagon is about eighteen feet wide, eighteen feet high, and seventy feet long. (For comparison, this is about half again as large as a standard modern boxcar.) It's supported by eight wheels, four on either side. Thanks to a sophisticated hinge mechanism, the four frontmost wheels can turn on a rack, making steering much easier.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cargo capacity: 25 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Weight of empty wagon: 5 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Difficulty of Dexterity + Survival Roll: 1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2-yeddim wagon === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cargo capacity: 45 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Weight of empty wagon: 15 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Difficulty of Dexterity + Survival Roll: 1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 4-yeddim wagon === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cargo capacity: 90 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Weight of empty wagon: 30 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Difficulty of Dexterity + Survival Roll: 2&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 6-yeddim wagon === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cargo capacity: 135 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Weight of empty wagon: 45 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Difficulty of Dexterity + Survival Roll: 3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 8-yeddim wagon === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cargo capacity: 180 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Weight of empty wagon: 60 tons&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Difficulty of Dexterity + Survival Roll: 4&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Incidentally, I go along with the idea that a yeddim is a baluchitherium or indricotherium. [[http://images.google.com/images?q=baluchitherium&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search | Google search for baluchitherium pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also incidentally, a yeddim powered railroad is a distinct possibility, since on rails, each yeddim could pull twice as much.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>JesseLowe</name></author>	</entry>

	</feed>