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−	~~== Problematizing the Question ==~~
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−	~~I suppose that assigning a rating of "greatest" depends on what aspect of generalship you rate as most critical to winning battles and wars.~~
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−	~~Is it:~~
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−	~~1. …the ability to create a maneuver and logistical plan that brings the right elements to the right place at the right time on the right battlefield?~~
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−	~~2. …the ability to actually execute the plan despite the friction and fog of war?~~
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−	~~3. …the ability to survive the complete breakdown of the plan and adapt to unanticipated conditions?~~
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−	~~4. …the ability to inspire troops — which is a serious force multiplier — ?~~
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−	~~5. …the ability to anticipate an enemy’s actions?~~
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−	Also, do you define winning as achieving tactical victories on a battlefield, or is it the strategic ability to weave a series of battlefield victories into a successful campaign that achieves your desired ends?
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−	~~Not everyone can do this: Some armies have won every battle only to loose the war.~~
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−	I imagine that the Mars and her immediate subordinates in the Crimson Panoply of Victory are frighteningly good at executing successful campaigns — using even marginal battlefield victories to further their aims and turning defeats into strategic advantages.
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−	~~The Unconquered Sun probably excels at winning battlefield victories and inspiring his troops.~~
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−	~~I can easily see Luna as the mistress of battlefield chaos and fluid adaptability.~~
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−	~~== My Conclusions ==~~
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−	~~1) '''Mars'''……the very incarnation of war.~~
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−	~~2) '''The Unconquered Sun'''……god of all-around [[The Unconquered Sun as the God of Excellence \| excellence]].~~
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−	~~3) '''Hu Dai Liang'''….Lord General of heaven’s Division of Battles.~~
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−	~~4) '''Luna'''…….goddess of cyclical change, nature, adaptability and survival.~~
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−	~~5) '''The First and Forsake Lion'''……Imagine Essence 10 Solar War Charms!~~
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−	~~6) '''Leviathan'''…….An ancient western Lunar with high Essence War Charms.~~
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−	~~7) '''Creation’s five regional gods of war'''……..Ahlat, Siakal, Sunipa, etc…~~
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−	~~8) '''Octavian'''……Demon general who has carved out a vast empire within Malfeas.~~
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−	~~9) '''Cathak Cainan'''…….Elder Dragon-Blooded general with potent War Charms.~~
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−	~~10) '''Local war gods and lesser members of the Crimson Panoply'''……Divinities such as Shield of a Different Day, Tien Yu and lesser members of the divine Bureau of War.~~
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−	~~From here on down the list is dominated by The Bull of the North, various Lookshy Strategoi and Realm generals, including Tepet Ejava.~~
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−	~~Back to [[MunificentPerception]]~~
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−	~~===== Comments, counter opinions? =====~~
−	~~I imagine Tien Yu might slot in there somewhere. - [[Trithne]]~~
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−	*''Yikes! I just looked over her stats in the new Scavenger Lands book. She’s certainly impressive compared with her 1st ed., Outcast book description. I’ll put her on the list. Thanks.'' ~MunificentPerception
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−	I would be entirely unsurprised if the Lion and Leviathan were better than Hu Dai and Luna, just based on the difference between god charms and exalt charms - but that is an argument that's been had a hundred times. -TheHoverpope
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−	*''Tien Yu has a number of potent War Charms in the 2nd ed. Scavenger Lands book. I imagine that Hu Dai Liang’s second edition Charms are several times more frightening than those. At least that was my reasoning behind her placement.'' ~ MunificentPerception

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+)	'''Local war gods and lesser members of the Crimson Panoply'''……Divinities such as Shield of a Different Day,  Tien Yu and lesser members of the divine Bureau of War.
-From here on down the list would be dominated by various Lookshy Strategoi and Realm generals, including Tepet Ejava.
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−	~~#REDIRECT~~ [[MunificentPerception~~/GreatestGeneralsInExistence~~]]	+	Written for grins and giggles by [[MunificentPerception \| Munificent Perception]]
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		+	== Problematizing the Question ==
		+
		+	I suppose that assigning a rating of "greatest" depends on what aspect of generalship you rate as most critical to winning battles and wars.
		+
		+	Is it:
		+
		+	1. …the ability to create a maneuver and logistical plan that brings the right elements to the right place at the right time on the right battlefield?
		+
		+	2. …the ability to actually execute the plan despite the friction and fog of war?
		+
		+	3. …the ability to survive the complete breakdown of the plan and adapt to unanticipated conditions?
		+
		+	4. …the ability to inspire troops — which is a serious force multiplier — ?
		+
		+	5. …the ability to anticipate an enemy’s actions?
		+
		+
		+	Also, do you define winning as achieving tactical victories on a battlefield, or is it the strategic ability to weave a series of battlefield victories into a successful campaign that achieves your desired ends?
		+
		+	Not everyone can do this: Some armies have won every battle only to loose the war.
		+
		+	I imagine that the Mars and her immediate subordinates in the Crimson Panoply of Victory are frighteningly good at executing successful campaigns — using even marginal battlefield victories to further their aims and turning defeats into strategic advantages.
		+
		+	The Unconquered Sun probably excels at winning battlefield victories and inspiring his troops.
		+
		+	I can easily see Luna as the mistress of battlefield chaos and fluid adaptability.
		+
		+	== My Conclusions ==
		+
		+	1) '''Mars'''……the very incarnation of war.
		+
		+	2) '''The Unconquered Sun'''……god of all-around [[The Unconquered Sun as the God of Excellence \| excellence]].
		+
		+	3) '''Hu Dai Liang'''….Lord General of heaven’s Division of Battles.
		+
		+	4) '''Luna'''…….goddess of cyclical change, nature, adaptability and survival.
		+
		+	5) '''The First and Forsake Lion'''……Imagine Essence 10 Solar War Charms!
		+
		+	6) '''Leviathan'''…….An ancient western Lunar with high Essence War Charms.
		+
		+	7) '''Creation’s five regional gods of war'''……..Ahlat, Siakal, Sunipa, etc…
		+
		+	8) '''Octavian'''……Demon general who has carved out a vast empire within Malfeas.
		+
		+	9) '''Cathak Cainan'''…….Elder Dragon-Blooded general with potent War Charms.
		+
		+	10) '''The Bull of the North'''…….An up and coming Solar general.
		+
		+
		+	From here on down the list would be dominated by various Lookshy Strategoi and Realm generals, including Tepet Ejava.
		+
		+
		+	Back to [[MunificentPerception]]
		+
		+
		+	===== Comments, counter opinions? =====

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