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== The Sidereal Exalted ==

There are exactly 100 Sidereal Essence Shards, 20 of each Maiden. Of these shards:

82 are currently held by members of the Bureau of Destiny. 
12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years. 
6 are currently held by ronin. 

== The Bureau of Destiny ==

In the Bureau of Destiny, there are 82 Sidereals.

8 are survivors of the First Age. 
22 Exalted in the Post-Usurpation period. 
31 Exalted in the Post-Contagion period. 
21 Exalted in the last one to forty years. 

=== The Factions ===

36 Sidereals are Bronze Faction. 
30 Sidereals are Gold Faction. 
5 Sidereals are Silver Faction. 
11 Sidereals are independant. 

In the Bronze Faction, there are 5 First Age Survivors, 10 Post-Usurpation, 14 Post-Contagion, and 7 Recent Exaltations. 
In the Gold Faction, there are 0 First Age Survivors, 8 Post-Usurpation, 13 Post-Contagion, and 9 Recent Exaltations. 
In the Silver Faction, there are 0 First Age Survivors, 1 Post-Usurpation, 2 Post-Contagion, and 2 Recent Exaltations. 
In the Independants, there are 3 First Age Survivors, 3 Post-Usurpation, 2 Post-Contagion, and 3 Recent Exaltations.

=== The Conventions ===

(Note: Sidereals who are members of special cross-territory Conventions, such as the Convention On Deathlords, are also members of a regional Convention. As such, these cross-territory Conventions are not detailed.)

=== The Capital Convention ===

23 Sidereals

BRONZE FACTION (17): 3 First Age Sidereals, 6 Post-Usurpation Sidereals, 6 Post-Contagion Sidereals, and 2 Recently Exalted Sidereals 
GOLD FACTION (4): 1 Post-Usurpation Sidereal, 2 Post-Contagion Sidereals, 1 Recently Exalted Sidereal 
INDEPENDANT (2): 1 First Age Sidereal, 1 Post-Contagion Sidereal 

=== Convention Of Wood ===

19 Sidereals

BRONZE FACTION (2): 1 Post-Usurpation Sidereal, 1 Recently Exalted Sidereal 
GOLD FACTION (11): 4 Post-Usurpation Sidereals, 4 Post-Contagion Sidereals, 3 Recently Exalted Sidereals 
SILVER FACTION (3): 2 Post-Contagion Sidereals, 1 Recently Exalted Sidereals 
INDEPENDANT (3): 1 First Age Sidereal, 1 Post-Usurpation Sidereal, 1 Post-Contagion Sidereal 

=== Convention Of Fire ===

17 Sidereals

BRONZE FACTION (8): 1 First Age Sidereal, 2 Post-Usurpation Sidereals, 3 Post-Contagion Siderals, 2 Recently Exalted Sidereals 
GOLD FACTION (7): 2 Post-Usurpation Sidereals, 3 Post-Contagion Sidereals, 2 Recently Exalted Sidereals 
INDEPENDANT (2): 1 First Age Sidereal, 1 Recently Exalted 

=== Convention Of Air ===

14 Sidereals

BRONZE FACTION (6): 1 First Age Sidereal, 1 Post-Usurpation Sidereal, 3 Post-Contagion Sidereals, and 1 Recently Exalted Sidereal 
GOLD FACTION (5): 1 Post-Usurpation Sidereal, 2 Post-Contagion Sidereals, and 2 Recently Exalted Sidereals 
SILVER FACTION (2): 1 Post-Usurpation Sidereal, 1 Recently Exalted Sidereal 
INDEPENDANT (1): 1 Post-Usurpation Sidereal 

=== Convention Of Water ===

9 Sidereals

BRONZE FACTION (3): 2 Post-Contagion Siderals, 1 Recently Exalted Sidereal. 
GOLD FACTION (3): 2 Post-Contagion Siderals, 1 Recently Exalted Sidereal. 
INDEPENDANT (3): 1 Post-Usurpation Sidereal, 2 Recently Exalted Sidereals. 

== Ronin ==

There are six Sidereal ronin; their numbers have increased of late due to the ease of hiding in shadowlands.

Serving Deathlords: 3 [One each serves the Mask of Winters, the Bishop of the Chalcedony Thurible, and the Bodhissatva Anointed By Dark Waters] 
Serving Yozi: 1 
Fully Rogue: 2 

===== Comments =====
You really think the balance between the Bronze and Gold is that tight? I know the eldest (and therefore most powerful, and highest-ranking) Sidereals are all Bronze here, but that still seems like a much stronger Gold than canon suggests.
: I've always read the Gold / Bronze balance to be fairly close, yeah. There are notes about things like the massive number of Gold Faction Chosen of Endings being sufficient for the Bronze to actually start undercutting the entire department, for example. Most of the imbalance comes from the relative power of the two sides. The Capitol Convention is listed as the strong arm of the Bronze, with Air slightly tilted Bronze, Fire balanced, Water mostly neutral, and Wood a stronghold for the Gold Faction.

I also think that Sidereals suggests that Conventions are field agents, and most elders are on one, but I could be wrong about that, and I certainly don't have my books handy. - [[Hapushet]]
: As far as the Conventions go, the Directional Conventions are listed as being the standard buerocratic arrangement of the Sidereals (Page 72); the note is technically that "almost every Sidereal is part of a Directional Convention", which I remembered as "all", and will probably keep anyway. Kejak is listed as the leader of the Capitol Convention. It's the Special Conventions that pull whomever together, but their members are also part of the Directional Conventions. That said, a reread indicates that there should actually be under ten Sidereals in the West, and I think I gave them too much credit for spreading people out; I should probably concentrate the First Agers more in the Capitol Convention, and there are only supposed to be two Bronze agents in the East. I'll probably make those changes tommororw, along with adding Castes to the mix. - FrivYeti

"12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years." - I know they've been experiencing a lot of strife lately. I seem to recall reading a pair died helping the Tepet legions, and theres definatly the one killed by Sad Ivory. Even so, you're saying 12% of a group that can live for thousands of years is dead and waiting to be reborn because they are destined for individules that are too young to exalt? I don't buy that, especially since they try to force exaltation so young. Was this explicity listed somewhere? I don't have my Sidreal book with me. Yes, it definatly makes room for a full circle (or two and two fifths) of new players, but it just seems to big. Statistically, the odds of even one being dead at any given point in time is tiny. Especially when you factor in 21 being less than forty years since exaltion. That means a third of the Sidreals have died in the past half century, even though they can live for millenia. Other than the events of the past five years (which I still don't think is enough for 12), what the heck is killing that many Sidreal? - ExhilaratedRosewood
: Don't look at me, look at the Sidereals corebook. It specifically states that due to the combination of recent deaths and ronin, there are only slightly over 80 active Sidereals. As to what's killing them... old age. All of the First Age Sidereals are nearing the end of their lifespans, and because Sidereals keep hiding away from fights, everyone in a given age bracket winds up dying in the same century. It's just a "co-incidence / evil plot" that the current die-off is happening RIGHT NOW. In another fifty years, there probably won't be any First Age Sidereals left. (As a sidenote, this die-off is plot important, as it is currently allowing for the creation of large numbers of PCs as well as throwing the Sidereal bureaucracy into a state of flux that rarely occurs.) - FrivYeti

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 I also think that <b>Sidereals</b> suggests that Conventions are field agents, and most elders are on one, but I could be wrong about that, and I certainly don't have my books handy. - [[Hapushet]]
-: As far as the Conventions go, the Directional Conventions are listed as being the standard buerocratic arrangement of the Sidereals (Page 72); the note is technically that "almost every Sidereal is part of a Directional Convention", which I remembered as "all", and will probably keep anyway. Kejak is listed as the leader of the Capitol Convention. It's the Special Conventions that pull whomever together, but their members are also part of the Directional Conventions. That said, a reread indicates that there should actually be under ten Sidereals in the West, and I think I gave them too much credit for spreading people out; I should probably concentrate the First Agers more in the Capitol Convention, and there are only supposed to be two Bronze agents in the East. I'll probably make those changes tommororw, along with adding Castes to the mix. - FrivYeti
+: As far as the Conventions go, the Directional Conventions are listed as being the standard buerocratic arrangement of the Sidereals (Page 72); the note is technically that "almost every Sidereal is part of a Directional Convention", which I remembered as "all", and will probably keep anyway. Kejak is listed as the leader of the Capitol Convention. It's the Special Conventions that pull whomever together, but their members are also part of the Directional Conventions. That said, a reread indicates that there should actually be under ten Sidereals in the West, and I think I gave them too much credit for spreading people out; I should probably concentrate the First Agers more in the Capitol Convention, and there are only supposed to be two Bronze agents in the East. I'll probably make those changes tommororw, along with adding Castes to the mix. - [[FrivYeti]]
-"12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years." - I know they've been experiencing a lot of strife lately. I seem to recall reading a pair died helping the Tepet legions, and theres definatly the one killed by Sad Ivory. Even so, you're saying 12% of a group that can live for thousands of years is dead and waiting to be reborn because they are destined for individules that are too young to exalt? I don't buy that, especially since they try to force exaltation so young. Was this explicity listed somewhere? I don't have my Sidreal book with me. Yes, it definatly makes room for a full circle (or two and two fifths) of new players, but it just seems to big. Statistically, the odds of even one being dead at any given point in time is tiny. Especially when you factor in 21 being less than forty years since exaltion. That means a third of the Sidreals have died in the past half century, even though they can live for millenia. Other than the events of the past five years (which I still don't think is enough for 12), what the heck is killing that many Sidreal? - ExhilaratedRosewood
+"12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years." - I know they've been experiencing a lot of strife lately. I seem to recall reading a pair died helping the Tepet legions, and theres definatly the one killed by Sad Ivory. Even so, you're saying 12% of a group that can live for thousands of years is dead and waiting to be reborn because they are destined for individules that are too young to exalt? I don't buy that, especially since they try to force exaltation so young. Was this explicity listed somewhere? I don't have my Sidreal book with me. Yes, it definatly makes room for a full circle (or two and two fifths) of new players, but it just seems to big. Statistically, the odds of even one being dead at any given point in time is tiny. Especially when you factor in 21 being less than forty years since exaltion. That means a third of the Sidreals have died in the past half century, even though they can live for millenia. Other than the events of the past five years (which I still don't think is enough for 12), what the heck is killing that many Sidreal? - [[ExhilaratedRosewood]]
-: Don't look at me, look at the Sidereals corebook. It specifically states that due to the combination of recent deaths and ronin, there are only slightly over 80 active Sidereals. As to what's killing them... old age. All of the First Age Sidereals are nearing the end of their lifespans, and because Sidereals keep hiding away from fights, everyone in a given age bracket winds up dying in the same century. It's just a "co-incidence / evil plot" that the current die-off is happening RIGHT NOW. In another fifty years, there probably won't be any First Age Sidereals left. (As a sidenote, this die-off is plot important, as it is currently allowing for the creation of large numbers of PCs as well as throwing the Sidereal bureaucracy into a state of flux that rarely occurs.)
+: Don't look at me, look at the Sidereals corebook. It specifically states that due to the combination of recent deaths and ronin, there are only slightly over 80 active Sidereals. As to what's killing them... old age. All of the First Age Sidereals are nearing the end of their lifespans, and because Sidereals keep hiding away from fights, everyone in a given age bracket winds up dying in the same century. It's just a "co-incidence / evil plot" that the current die-off is happening RIGHT NOW. In another fifty years, there probably won't be any First Age Sidereals left. (As a sidenote, this die-off is plot important, as it is currently allowing for the creation of large numbers of PCs as well as throwing the Sidereal bureaucracy into a state of flux that rarely occurs.) - [[FrivYeti]]

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 I also think that <b>Sidereals</b> suggests that Conventions are field agents, and most elders are on one, but I could be wrong about that, and I certainly don't have my books handy. - [[Hapushet]]
-: As far as the Conventions go, the Directional Conventions are listed as being the standard buerocratic arrangement of the Sidereals (Page 72); the note is technically that "almost every Sidereal is part of a Directional Convention", which I remembered as "all", and will probably keep anyway. Kejak is listed as the leader of the Capitol Convention. It's the Special Conventions that pull whomever together, but their members are also part of the Directional Conventions. That said, a reread indicates that there should actually be under ten Sidereals in the West, and I think I gave them too much credit for spreading people out; I should probably concentrate the First Agers more in the Capitol Convention, and there are only supposed to be two Bronze agents in the East. I'll probably make those changes tommororw, along with adding Castes to the mix. - FrivYeti
+: As far as the Conventions go, the Directional Conventions are listed as being the standard buerocratic arrangement of the Sidereals (Page 72); the note is technically that "almost every Sidereal is part of a Directional Convention", which I remembered as "all", and will probably keep anyway. Kejak is listed as the leader of the Capitol Convention. It's the Special Conventions that pull whomever together, but their members are also part of the Directional Conventions. That said, a reread indicates that there should actually be under ten Sidereals in the West, and I think I gave them too much credit for spreading people out; I should probably concentrate the First Agers more in the Capitol Convention, and there are only supposed to be two Bronze agents in the East. I'll probably make those changes tommororw, along with adding Castes to the mix. - [[FrivYeti]]
-"12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years." - I know they've been experiencing a lot of strife lately. I seem to recall reading a pair died helping the Tepet legions, and theres definatly the one killed by Sad Ivory. Even so, you're saying 12% of a group that can live for thousands of years is dead and waiting to be reborn because they are destined for individules that are too young to exalt? I don't buy that, especially since they try to force exaltation so young. Was this explicity listed somewhere? I don't have my Sidreal book with me. Yes, it definatly makes room for a full circle (or two and two fifths) of new players, but it just seems to big. Statistically, the odds of even one being dead at any given point in time is tiny. Especially when you factor in 21 being less than forty years since exaltion. That means a third of the Sidreals have died in the past half century, even though they can live for millenia. Other than the events of the past five years (which I still don't think is enough for 12), what the heck is killing that many Sidreal? - ExhilaratedRosewood
+"12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years." - I know they've been experiencing a lot of strife lately. I seem to recall reading a pair died helping the Tepet legions, and theres definatly the one killed by Sad Ivory. Even so, you're saying 12% of a group that can live for thousands of years is dead and waiting to be reborn because they are destined for individules that are too young to exalt? I don't buy that, especially since they try to force exaltation so young. Was this explicity listed somewhere? I don't have my Sidreal book with me. Yes, it definatly makes room for a full circle (or two and two fifths) of new players, but it just seems to big. Statistically, the odds of even one being dead at any given point in time is tiny. Especially when you factor in 21 being less than forty years since exaltion. That means a third of the Sidreals have died in the past half century, even though they can live for millenia. Other than the events of the past five years (which I still don't think is enough for 12), what the heck is killing that many Sidreal? - [[ExhilaratedRosewood]]
-: Don't look at me, look at the Sidereals corebook. It specifically states that due to the combination of recent deaths and ronin, there are only slightly over 80 active Sidereals. As to what's killing them... old age. All of the First Age Sidereals are nearing the end of their lifespans, and because Sidereals keep hiding away from fights, everyone in a given age bracket winds up dying in the same century. It's just a "co-incidence / evil plot" that the current die-off is happening RIGHT NOW. In another fifty years, there probably won't be any First Age Sidereals left. (As a sidenote, this die-off is plot important, as it is currently allowing for the creation of large numbers of PCs as well as throwing the Sidereal bureaucracy into a state of flux that rarely occurs.) - FrivYeti
+: Don't look at me, look at the Sidereals corebook. It specifically states that due to the combination of recent deaths and ronin, there are only slightly over 80 active Sidereals. As to what's killing them... old age. All of the First Age Sidereals are nearing the end of their lifespans, and because Sidereals keep hiding away from fights, everyone in a given age bracket winds up dying in the same century. It's just a "co-incidence / evil plot" that the current die-off is happening RIGHT NOW. In another fifty years, there probably won't be any First Age Sidereals left. (As a sidenote, this die-off is plot important, as it is currently allowing for the creation of large numbers of PCs as well as throwing the Sidereal bureaucracy into a state of flux that rarely occurs.) - [[FrivYeti]]

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	"12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years." - I know they've been experiencing a lot of strife lately. I seem to recall reading a pair died helping the Tepet legions, and theres definatly the one killed by Sad Ivory. Even so, you're saying 12% of a group that can live for thousands of years is dead and waiting to be reborn because they are destined for individules that are too young to exalt? I don't buy that, especially since they try to force exaltation so young. Was this explicity listed somewhere? I don't have my Sidreal book with me. Yes, it definatly makes room for a full circle (or two and two fifths) of new players, but it just seems to big. Statistically, the odds of even one being dead at any given point in time is tiny. Especially when you factor in 21 being less than forty years since exaltion. That means a third of the Sidreals have died in the past half century, even though they can live for millenia. Other than the events of the past five years (which I still don't think is enough for 12), what the heck is killing that many Sidreal? - ExhilaratedRosewood		"12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years." - I know they've been experiencing a lot of strife lately. I seem to recall reading a pair died helping the Tepet legions, and theres definatly the one killed by Sad Ivory. Even so, you're saying 12% of a group that can live for thousands of years is dead and waiting to be reborn because they are destined for individules that are too young to exalt? I don't buy that, especially since they try to force exaltation so young. Was this explicity listed somewhere? I don't have my Sidreal book with me. Yes, it definatly makes room for a full circle (or two and two fifths) of new players, but it just seems to big. Statistically, the odds of even one being dead at any given point in time is tiny. Especially when you factor in 21 being less than forty years since exaltion. That means a third of the Sidreals have died in the past half century, even though they can live for millenia. Other than the events of the past five years (which I still don't think is enough for 12), what the heck is killing that many Sidreal? - ExhilaratedRosewood
		+	: Don't look at me, look at the Sidereals corebook. It specifically states that due to the combination of recent deaths and ronin, there are only slightly over 80 active Sidereals. As to what's killing them... old age. All of the First Age Sidereals are nearing the end of their lifespans, and because Sidereals keep hiding away from fights, everyone in a given age bracket winds up dying in the same century. It's just a "co-incidence / evil plot" that the current die-off is happening RIGHT NOW. In another fifty years, there probably won't be any First Age Sidereals left. (As a sidenote, this die-off is plot important, as it is currently allowing for the creation of large numbers of PCs as well as throwing the Sidereal bureaucracy into a state of flux that rarely occurs.)

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 I also think that <b>Sidereals</b> suggests that Conventions are field agents, and most elders are on one, but I could be wrong about that, and I certainly don't have my books handy. - [[Hapushet]]
-: As far as the Conventions go, the Directional Conventions are listed as being the standard buerocratic arrangement of the Sidereals (Page 72); the note is technically that "almost every Sidereal is part of a Directional Convention", which I remembered as "all", and will probably keep anyway. Kejak is listed as the leader of the Capitol Convention. It's the Special Conventions that pull whomever together, but their members are also part of the Directional Conventions. That said, a reread indicates that there should actually be under ten Sidereals in the West, and I think I gave them too much credit for spreading people out; I should probably concentrate the First Agers more in the Capitol Convention, and there are only supposed to be two Bronze agents in the East. I'll probably make those changes tommororw, along with adding Castes to the mix. - [[FrivYeti]]
+: As far as the Conventions go, the Directional Conventions are listed as being the standard buerocratic arrangement of the Sidereals (Page 72); the note is technically that "almost every Sidereal is part of a Directional Convention", which I remembered as "all", and will probably keep anyway. Kejak is listed as the leader of the Capitol Convention. It's the Special Conventions that pull whomever together, but their members are also part of the Directional Conventions. That said, a reread indicates that there should actually be under ten Sidereals in the West, and I think I gave them too much credit for spreading people out; I should probably concentrate the First Agers more in the Capitol Convention, and there are only supposed to be two Bronze agents in the East. I'll probably make those changes tommororw, along with adding Castes to the mix. - FrivYeti
-"12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years." - I know they've been experiencing a lot of strife lately. I seem to recall reading a pair died helping the Tepet legions, and theres definatly the one killed by Sad Ivory. Even so, you're saying 12% of a group that can live for thousands of years is dead and waiting to be reborn because they are destined for individules that are too young to exalt? I don't buy that, especially since they try to force exaltation so young. Was this explicity listed somewhere? I don't have my Sidreal book with me. Yes, it definatly makes room for a full circle (or two and two fifths) of new players, but it just seems to big. Statistically, the odds of even one being dead at any given point in time is tiny. Especially when you factor in 21 being less than forty years since exaltion. That means a third of the Sidreals have died in the past half century, even though they can live for millenia. Other than the events of the past five years (which I still don't think is enough for 12), what the heck is killing that many Sidreal? - [[ExhilaratedRosewood]]
+"12 are currently held by people too young to Exalt, but will Exalt within the next twenty years." - I know they've been experiencing a lot of strife lately. I seem to recall reading a pair died helping the Tepet legions, and theres definatly the one killed by Sad Ivory. Even so, you're saying 12% of a group that can live for thousands of years is dead and waiting to be reborn because they are destined for individules that are too young to exalt? I don't buy that, especially since they try to force exaltation so young. Was this explicity listed somewhere? I don't have my Sidreal book with me. Yes, it definatly makes room for a full circle (or two and two fifths) of new players, but it just seems to big. Statistically, the odds of even one being dead at any given point in time is tiny. Especially when you factor in 21 being less than forty years since exaltion. That means a third of the Sidreals have died in the past half century, even though they can live for millenia. Other than the events of the past five years (which I still don't think is enough for 12), what the heck is killing that many Sidreal? - ExhilaratedRosewood

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