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FlowsLikeBits: Hmm...other WW games mabye

2005-04-18T07:36:16Z

Hmm...other WW games mabye

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Where are the rules covering swimming? - Arafelis
:I dunno, man. Where are the rules covering flying bonsai gardens? - [[willows]]
::Probably in the Haslanti splat. No, seriously- how fast do people swim? What Ability covers it? etc. - [[Arafelis]]

Well, the Ability that covers it is pretty obviously Athletics. I can't find anything in the core book about swimming movement rates, and my copy of [[Books/SavageSeas|Savage Seas]] isn't handy right now (and probably doesn't have anything relevant anyway), but I'd put it at (Athletics) yards/turn or something like that. Just a suggestion.--[[MF]]

This is pissing me off now. I <i>know</i> there are swimming rules. We've used them. But I can't, currently, locate them. They don't seem to be in Savage Seas, either, MF. All I can think of offhand is that the swiming speed for Mosok is specified in the Player's Guide, but they're aquatic so it would have been something of a more <i>major</i> oversight to leave it out. How troublesome. -- [[Vervain]]

[[Books/BloodAndSalt|Blood and Salt]], maybe? --[[MF]]

:Not there to the best of my ability to determine. - [[Arafelis]]

A quick search of the corebook suggests that it doesn't care about "just swimming" at all; it provides rules for treading water and for holding your breath. - w

There are swimming Charms in CB:N. They might provide explicit or implicit rules for swimming without them. _[[Ikselam]]

:The Charms implicitly suggests that characters cannot swim at their 'normal movement speed.' - [[Arafelis]]

:I can find at least 5 places where the rules talk about stuff that allows 'better' underwater movement, but not a thing about when your not using magic<nowiki>(Viridan Mantle:S&S, Gem of Aquatic Prowness:CB:D,Mosok:PG, Water Aspect Anima:E:DB, Swim Charms CB:N, not to mention stuff in the core under Endurance and Resistance about treading water and holding breadth)</nowiki> Many of these allow swimming at normal running speed, thus implying that it is less than that(obviously). .5 - .3 normal running speed seems reasonable? --FlowsLikeBits

::I'd make it rely on Athletics checks but that would take too long. Walking speed, + the results of a Str + Athletics check to swim quickly, perhaps? Since apparently only magic users in Exalted swim? - [[Arafelis]]

:Anyone know another WW game that uses the same movement formula? --FlowsLikeBits

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Arafelis: Quite funny.

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Quite funny.

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 :The Charms implicitly suggests that characters cannot swim at their 'normal movement speed.' - [[Arafelis]]
-:I can find at least 5 places where the rules talk about stuff that allows 'better' underwater movement, but not thing about when your not using magic<nowiki>(Viridan Mantle:S&S, Gem of Aquatic Prowness:CB:D,Mosok:PG, Water Aspect Anima:E:DB, Swim Charms CB:N)</nowiki> Many of these allow swimming at normal running speed, thus implying that it is less than that(obviously). .5 - .3  normal running speed seems reasonable? --FlowsLikeBits
+:I can find at least 5 places where the rules talk about stuff that allows 'better' underwater movement, but not a thing about when your not using magic<nowiki>(Viridan Mantle:S&S, Gem of Aquatic Prowness:CB:D,Mosok:PG, Water Aspect Anima:E:DB, Swim Charms CB:N, not to mention stuff in the core under Endurance and Resistance about treading water and holding breadth)</nowiki> Many of these allow swimming at normal running speed, thus implying that it is less than that(obviously). .5 - .3  normal running speed seems reasonable?  --[[FlowsLikeBits]]
 ::I'd make it rely on Athletics checks but that would take too long.  Walking speed, + the results of a Str + Athletics check to swim quickly, perhaps?  Since apparently only magic users in Exalted swim? - [[Arafelis]]

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 :The Charms implicitly suggests that characters cannot swim at their 'normal movement speed.' - [[Arafelis]]
-:I can find at least 5 places where the rules talk about stuff that allows 'better' underwater movement, but not thing about when your not using magic<nowiki>(Viridan Mantle:S&S, Gem of Aquatic Prowness:CB:D,Mosok:PG, Water Aspect Anima:E:DB, Swim Charms CB:N)</nowiki> Many of these allow swimming at normal running speed, thus implying that it is less than that(obviously). .5 - .3  normal running speed seems reasoanble? --FlowsLikeBits
+:I can find at least 5 places where the rules talk about stuff that allows 'better' underwater movement, but not thing about when your not using magic<nowiki>(Viridan Mantle:S&S, Gem of Aquatic Prowness:CB:D,Mosok:PG, Water Aspect Anima:E:DB, Swim Charms CB:N)</nowiki> Many of these allow swimming at normal running speed, thus implying that it is less than that(obviously). .5 - .3  normal running speed seems reasonable? --FlowsLikeBits
 ::I'd make it rely on Athletics checks but that would take too long.  Walking speed, + the results of a Str + Athletics check to swim quickly, perhaps?  Since apparently only magic users in Exalted swim? - [[Arafelis]]

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 :The Charms implicitly suggests that characters cannot swim at their 'normal movement speed.' - [[Arafelis]]
-:I can find at least 5 places where the rules talk about stuff that allows 'better' underwater movement, but not a thing about when your not using magic<nowiki>(Viridan Mantle:S&S, Gem of Aquatic Prowness:CB:D,Mosok:PG, Water Aspect Anima:E:DB, Swim Charms CB:N, not to mention stuff in the core under Endurance and Resistance about treading water and holding breadth)</nowiki> Many of these allow swimming at normal running speed, thus implying that it is less than that(obviously). .5 - .3  normal running speed seems reasonable?  --[[FlowsLikeBits]]
+:I can find at least 5 places where the rules talk about stuff that allows 'better' underwater movement, but not thing about when your not using magic<nowiki>(Viridan Mantle:S&S, Gem of Aquatic Prowness:CB:D,Mosok:PG, Water Aspect Anima:E:DB, Swim Charms CB:N)</nowiki> Many of these allow swimming at normal running speed, thus implying that it is less than that(obviously). .5 - .3  normal running speed seems reasoanble? --FlowsLikeBits
 ::I'd make it rely on Athletics checks but that would take too long.  Walking speed, + the results of a Str + Athletics check to swim quickly, perhaps?  Since apparently only magic users in Exalted swim? - [[Arafelis]]

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