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		<title>Wordman: Script: fix links messed up in conversion</title>
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				<updated>2010-06-08T17:41:04Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Script: fix links messed up in conversion&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:41, 8 June 2010&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l113&quot; &gt;Line 113:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 113:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Which is consistent with Rebecca's (somewhat odd) decision to ignore prereq depth and charmtree structure n general as a Sidereal Charm balancing factor. And I don't think we need yet another argument about [[BotBM]]. - [[willows]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Which is consistent with Rebecca's (somewhat odd) decision to ignore prereq depth and charmtree structure n general as a Sidereal Charm balancing factor. And I don't think we need yet another argument about [[BotBM]]. - [[willows]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Sorry for the horrible spelling, unfortunately I had yet to install MS word on my comp and was using everyone’s best friend TXT pad.&amp;#160; Unfortunately dyslexia doesn't have a spellchecker, &amp;lt;I&amp;gt;interesting idea though. [[Discussions&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;/AreMartialArtsUber&lt;/del&gt;/I]]&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Sorry for the horrible spelling, unfortunately I had yet to install MS word on my comp and was using everyone’s best friend TXT pad.&amp;#160; Unfortunately dyslexia doesn't have a spellchecker, &amp;lt;I&amp;gt;interesting idea though. [[Discussions/I]]&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Anyway, the thrust of my slightly deranged commentary was this.&amp;#160; All charm trees are just as powerful as each other when taken in a broad scope.&amp;#160; Unfortunately for some this means that the way each tree stacks up as you progress is hard/soft mechanically.&amp;#160; I do acknowledge that MA has a week start but one hell of a finish in most cases and this makes allot of combat Melee/Brawl users fairly uncomfortable, as their charms are more consistent in level of power.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Anyway, the thrust of my slightly deranged commentary was this.&amp;#160; All charm trees are just as powerful as each other when taken in a broad scope.&amp;#160; Unfortunately for some this means that the way each tree stacks up as you progress is hard/soft mechanically.&amp;#160; I do acknowledge that MA has a week start but one hell of a finish in most cases and this makes allot of combat Melee/Brawl users fairly uncomfortable, as their charms are more consistent in level of power.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 119:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the end though everyone ends up the same place &amp;lt;kill stuff well&amp;gt;. Exalted is a Hong Kong film style game - have you ever seen said film type have a mystic Kung Fu master fall to a swordsman, or fist fighter, except as a huge plot element?&amp;#160; Therefore MA is going to be slightly more powerful at the top.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the end though everyone ends up the same place &amp;lt;kill stuff well&amp;gt;. Exalted is a Hong Kong film style game - have you ever seen said film type have a mystic Kung Fu master fall to a swordsman, or fist fighter, except as a huge plot element?&amp;#160; Therefore MA is going to be slightly more powerful at the top.&amp;#160; &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;Personally I tend to make sure MA players get the &amp;lt;I&amp;gt;face[[Discussions&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;/AreMartialArtsUber&lt;/del&gt;/I]]&amp;gt; background to ensure they get challenged regularly for taking MA in the first place, or have them make vows of poverty etc to prevent them taking over all the roles of the party with well chosen points distributions.&amp;gt;-------[[WillfullShadow]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;Personally I tend to make sure MA players get the &amp;lt;I&amp;gt;face[[Discussions/I]]&amp;gt; background to ensure they get challenged regularly for taking MA in the first place, or have them make vows of poverty etc to prevent them taking over all the roles of the party with well chosen points distributions.&amp;gt;-------[[WillfullShadow]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That's a straw man argument, WS.&amp;#160; In most of those Hong Kong movies, all of the major protagonists and antagonists are martial artists, and all of the non-MA swordsmen and brawlers are mooks.&amp;#160; So your argument actually boils down to &amp;quot;PCs and NPC masters shouldn't get taken down by mooks,&amp;quot; which no one is likely to argue with, but is different from the point you present. - [[Quendalon]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That's a straw man argument, WS.&amp;#160; In most of those Hong Kong movies, all of the major protagonists and antagonists are martial artists, and all of the non-MA swordsmen and brawlers are mooks.&amp;#160; So your argument actually boils down to &amp;quot;PCs and NPC masters shouldn't get taken down by mooks,&amp;quot; which no one is likely to argue with, but is different from the point you present. - [[Quendalon]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Conversion script: link fix</title>
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				<updated>2010-04-06T01:15:43Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;link fix&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Conversion script</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Conversion script: link fix</title>
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				<updated>2010-04-06T00:35:27Z</updated>
		
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		<title>Conversion script: link fix</title>
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		<title>Conversion script: link fix</title>
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