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BillGarrett: Comment on FBE

2005-08-18T21:30:36Z

Comment on FBE

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Dodge. Running from fights has never been big for the Lunars, but sometimes it's a lifesaver.

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Bowing Reed Stance
Cost: 3 motes
Duration: One Scene
Type: Reflexive
Minimum Dexterity: 1
Minimum Essence: 1
Prerequisite Charms: None

If you use a Full Dodge, you suffer no penalties for multiple attacks.

Bending Before the Storm
Cost: 3 motes
Duration: Instant
Type: Reflexive
Minimum Dexterity: 2
Minimum Essence: 2
Prerequisite Charms: Bowing Reed Stance

Provides a Dodge attempt at it's full normal dicepool, converting Dexterity dice into automatic successes.

Riding the Storm's Edge
Cost: 5 motes
Duration: Instant
Type: Reflexive
Minimum Dexterity: 3
Minimum Essence: 2
Prerequisite Charms: Bending Before the Storm

Provides a Dodge attempt at it's full normal dicepool, converting Dexterity dice into automatic successes. The Lunar also moves a number of yards equal to the number of successes, to a maximum of Strength + Athletics.

Flowing Body Evasion
Cost: 1 mote
Duration: Instant
Type: Supplemental
Minimum Dexterity: 3
Minimum Essence: 2
Prerequisite Charms: Bowing Reed Stance

Allows a Lunar to attempt to dodge an attack that is normally undodgeable. This does not provide a dodge attempt, but it make any dodge applicable.

Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit
Cost: 6 motes, 1 Willpower
Duration: One Scene
Type: Reflexive
Minimum Dexterity: 4
Minimum Essence: 3
Prerequisite Charms: Bending Before the Storm, Flowing Body Evasion

Converts a Lunar's Dexterity dice to successes for any Dodge they make this scene. If they do not have a dodge available, they may make one with just their Dexterity, which is converted into pure successes. 
Example: Ma-Ha-Suchi has a Dexterity of 6, a Dodge of 4 and an Essence of 4. His dodge pool is 14. Under the Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit, his Dodge pool is 8, with 6 automatic successes. Furthermore, if he does not actively dodge, he reflexively gets a 6 success dodge.

Shadow of Moonlight
Cost: 6 motes
Duration: Instant
Type: Reflexive
Minimum Dexterity: 5
Minimum Essence: 3
Prerequisite Charms: Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit

Make a Dexterity + Dodge roll, difficulty 1. If successful, you dodge any dodgeable attack perfectly.

Mongoose Tempts the Serpent
Cost: 7 motes, 1 Willpower
Duration: One Scene
Type: Reflexive
Minimum Dexterity: 5
Minimum Essence: 3
Prerequisite Charms: Riding the Storm's Edge, Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit

Allows the Lunar to move up to their Strength in yards after any dodge.

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I've been looking at your rules with the intent on using them for a character in an upcoming game. I'm just trying to clarify though, about your defensive charms, because they look hella powerful.

Assume I'm a Dex 6, Dodge 4, Essence 3, Lunar. I have a dodge pool of 13. I use Bending Before the Storm and spend 3 dice. What happens?

The way I'm reading it, I roll seven dice (My Dodge+Essence) and get six automatic successes (my Dexterity)... Which is crazy-good. That makes me pretty much impervious too anything besides seriously charm-stacked attacks.

The only other way I read it is that I -can- convert -up to- my dexterity into sucesses for 3 motes a dot. Is that what you mean? - [[Halloween]]

:Hrm. It's definitely three motes for the whole dodge. IIRC, my basis for the cost was from Impeding the Flow, the Sidereal Parry of three motes that simply kills any non-Perfect attack. BBtS is mildly inferior (it can fail) and mildly superior (...but not easily, and requires nothing more than freedom of movement). [[DS]]
:: Bad comparison. Impeding the Flow is costed how it is because of lower Sidereal Essence pools and a lack of alternatives (few reflexive defenses). I'd price BBtS at 4 motes and RtSE at 6. Also, FBE - WAAAY too underpriced. I'd make it 4 if I were to allow it. Also, Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit, if I'm reading it right, is noticeably better than any other persistant in existance at 1 mote more. - FrivYeti
:::If you're talking about Flowing Body Evasion, the good news is that it's Supplemental, meaning you must actually devote an action to Dodging/Full Dodging, and that it only means that the action will be meaningful against a specific undodgeable attack. Sure, you can Combo in other stuff to make it effectively a perfect dodge against an undodgeable hit, but you've already spent at least 1 WP for that perfection (and have probably spent more than a Solar using HGD). It's an odd duck, and my gut is to change the 1m cost to 1W, but it's not hugely unbalanced. -- BillGarrett

FrivYeti: *Erp.

2005-08-18T20:55:53Z

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 :Hrm.  It's definitely three motes for the whole dodge.  IIRC, my basis for the cost was from Impeding the Flow, the Sidereal Parry of three motes that simply kills any non-Perfect attack.  [[BBtS]] is mildly inferior (it can fail) and mildly superior (...but not easily, and requires nothing more than freedom of movement). [[DS]]
 :: Bad comparison. Impeding the Flow is costed how it is because of lower Sidereal Essence pools and a lack of alternatives (few reflexive defenses). I'd price [[BBtS]] at 4 motes and [[RtSE]] at 6. Also, FBE - WAAAY too underpriced. I'd make it 4 if I were to allow it. Also, Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit, if I'm reading it right, is noticeably better than any other persistant in existance at 1 mote more. - [[FrivYeti]]
-:::If you're talking about Flowing Body Evasion, the good news is that it's Supplemental, meaning you must actually devote an action to [[DodgingDariusSollumanLunarsRevised/RevisedLunarDodge/Full]] Dodging, and that it only means that the action will be meaningful against a specific undodgeable attack.  Sure, you can Combo in other stuff to make it effectively a perfect dodge against an undodgeable hit, but you've already spent at least 1 WP for that perfection (and have probably spent more than a Solar using HGD).  It's an odd duck, and my gut is to change the 1m cost to 1W, but it's not hugely unbalanced. -- [[BillGarrett]]
+:::If you're talking about Flowing Body Evasion, the good news is that it's Supplemental, meaning you must actually devote an action to Dodging/Full Dodging, and that it only means that the action will be meaningful against a specific undodgeable attack.  Sure, you can Combo in other stuff to make it effectively a perfect dodge against an undodgeable hit, but you've already spent at least 1 WP for that perfection (and have probably spent more than a Solar using HGD).  It's an odd duck, and my gut is to change the 1m cost to 1W, but it's not hugely unbalanced. -- [[BillGarrett]]

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 The only other way I read it is that I -can- convert -up to- my dexterity into sucesses for 3 motes a dot. Is that what you mean? - [[Halloween]]
-:Hrm.  It's definitely three motes for the whole dodge.  IIRC, my basis for the cost was from Impeding the Flow, the Sidereal Parry of three motes that simply kills any non-Perfect attack.  BBtS is mildly inferior (it can fail) and mildly superior (...but not easily, and requires nothing more than freedom of movement). [[DS]]
+:Hrm.  It's definitely three motes for the whole dodge.  IIRC, my basis for the cost was from Impeding the Flow, the Sidereal Parry of three motes that simply kills any non-Perfect attack.  [[BBtS]] is mildly inferior (it can fail) and mildly superior (...but not easily, and requires nothing more than freedom of movement). [[DS]]
-:: Bad comparison. Impeding the Flow is costed how it is because of lower Sidereal Essence pools and a lack of alternatives (few reflexive defenses). I'd price BBtS at 4 motes and RtSE at 6. Also, FBE - WAAAY too underpriced. I'd make it 4 if I were to allow it. Also, Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit, if I'm reading it right, is noticeably better than any other persistant in existance at 1 mote more. - FrivYeti
+:: Bad comparison. Impeding the Flow is costed how it is because of lower Sidereal Essence pools and a lack of alternatives (few reflexive defenses). I'd price [[BBtS]] at 4 motes and [[RtSE]] at 6. Also, FBE - WAAAY too underpriced. I'd make it 4 if I were to allow it. Also, Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit, if I'm reading it right, is noticeably better than any other persistant in existance at 1 mote more. - [[FrivYeti]]

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 The only other way I read it is that I -can- convert -up to- my dexterity into sucesses for 3 motes a dot. Is that what you mean? - [[Halloween]]
-:Hrm.  It's definitely three motes for the whole dodge.  IIRC, my basis for the cost was from Impeding the Flow, the Sidereal Parry of three motes that simply kills any non-Perfect attack.  BBtS is mildly inferior (it can fail) and mildly superior (...but not easily, and requires nothing more than freedom of movement). [[DS]]
+:Hrm.  It's definitely three motes for the whole dodge.  IIRC, my basis for the cost was from Impeding the Flow, the Sidereal Parry of three motes that simply kills any non-Perfect attack.  [[BBtS]] is mildly inferior (it can fail) and mildly superior (...but not easily, and requires nothing more than freedom of movement). [[DS]]
-:: Bad comparison. Impeding the Flow is costed how it is because of lower Sidereal Essence pools and a lack of alternatives (few reflexive defenses). I'd price BBtS at 4 motes and RtSE at 6. Also, FBE - WAAAY too underpriced. I'd make it 4 if I were to allow it. Also, Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit, if I'm reading it right, is noticeably better than any other persistant in existance at 1 mote more. - FrivYeti
+:: Bad comparison. Impeding the Flow is costed how it is because of lower Sidereal Essence pools and a lack of alternatives (few reflexive defenses). I'd price [[BBtS]] at 4 motes and [[RtSE]] at 6. Also, FBE - WAAAY too underpriced. I'd make it 4 if I were to allow it. Also, Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit, if I'm reading it right, is noticeably better than any other persistant in existance at 1 mote more. - [[FrivYeti]]
-:::If you're talking about Flowing Body Evasion, the good news is that it's Supplemental, meaning you must actually devote an action to Dodging/Full Dodging, and that it only means that the action will be meaningful against a specific undodgeable attack.  Sure, you can Combo in other stuff to make it effectively a perfect dodge against an undodgeable hit, but you've already spent at least 1 WP for that perfection (and have probably spent more than a Solar using HGD).  It's an odd duck, and my gut is to change the 1m cost to 1W, but it's not hugely unbalanced. -- BillGarrett
+:::If you're talking about Flowing Body Evasion, the good news is that it's Supplemental, meaning you must actually devote an action to Dodging[[/Full]] Dodging, and that it only means that the action will be meaningful against a specific undodgeable attack.  Sure, you can Combo in other stuff to make it effectively a perfect dodge against an undodgeable hit, but you've already spent at least 1 WP for that perfection (and have probably spent more than a Solar using HGD).  It's an odd duck, and my gut is to change the 1m cost to 1W, but it's not hugely unbalanced. -- [[BillGarrett]]

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 The only other way I read it is that I -can- convert -up to- my dexterity into sucesses for 3 motes a dot. Is that what you mean? - [[Halloween]]
-:Hrm.  It's definitely three motes for the whole dodge.  IIRC, my basis for the cost was from Impeding the Flow, the Sidereal Parry of three motes that simply kills any non-Perfect attack.  [[BBtS]] is mildly inferior (it can fail) and mildly superior (...but not easily, and requires nothing more than freedom of movement). [[DS]]
+:Hrm.  It's definitely three motes for the whole dodge.  IIRC, my basis for the cost was from Impeding the Flow, the Sidereal Parry of three motes that simply kills any non-Perfect attack.  BBtS is mildly inferior (it can fail) and mildly superior (...but not easily, and requires nothing more than freedom of movement). [[DS]]
-:: Bad comparison. Impeding the Flow is costed how it is because of lower Sidereal Essence pools and a lack of alternatives (few reflexive defenses). I'd price [[BBtS]] at 4 motes and [[RtSE]] at 6. Also, FBE - WAAAY too underpriced. I'd make it 4 if I were to allow it. Also, Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit, if I'm reading it right, is noticeably better than any other persistant in existance at 1 mote more. - [[FrivYeti]]
+:: Bad comparison. Impeding the Flow is costed how it is because of lower Sidereal Essence pools and a lack of alternatives (few reflexive defenses). I'd price BBtS at 4 motes and RtSE at 6. Also, FBE - WAAAY too underpriced. I'd make it 4 if I were to allow it. Also, Dance of the Moonsilver Rabbit, if I'm reading it right, is noticeably better than any other persistant in existance at 1 mote more. - FrivYeti

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