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== Retribution ==
These are SolarCharms.
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Meditation of Half-Remembered Crimes (AntiVehicleRocket)
Cost: 12 motes, 1 Willpower
Type: Simple
Duration: The character's Essence in hours
Minimum Investigation: 5
Minimum Essence: 3
Prerequisites: Unknown Wisdom Epiphany

The finest Solar magistrates and judges of the First Age were well-known for being unstoppable agents of justice, investigators so exacting in their memory and intuition that even their assassination could not cease their hand, merely delay it. As their heirs in the Second Age grow to keener understanding of their natures and their Essence, they have begun to learn these ancient techniques of memory retention across incarnations and use them to solve the mysteries and crimes of antiquity.

A Solar using the Meditation of Half-Remembered Crimes assumes a meditative position and concentrates on a crime or mystery from the far past. She must invoke the Charm in a safe place, for when she does so, she enters into a deep meditative state that lasts for her permanent Essence rating in hours. (The character is totally insensate to the real world during these hours and may only be awakened from this state by being wounded. If she takes any damage, she awakens and the Charm ends.) During the trance, the character will see visions of her previous incarnations' actions or investigations regarding the mystery on which she initially concentrated. These visions place the character in the viewpoint of her previous incarnation and are quite lucid; although the character is a passive viewer, unable to change the events of the visions, everything within the visions seem very realistic. Thus, the character may learn what evidence her previous incarnations may have gathered about the mystery and what conclusions they may have come to, and she might make Awareness or Investigation rolls to note valuable details. (It may also provide useful subsidiary information, such as the operation of a First Age artifact; the visions will not explicitly teach the character anything about First Age machinery or lifestyles, but she may of course learn from observation.) As long as the character's previous incarnations had any knowledge of or experience with the mystery at hand, the visions will reveal it. This Charm will only fail in cases when the character's previous incarnations truly knew nothing at all of the mystery or in which Lytek deliberately pruned the memories of the incident from the character's shard (both at the Storyteller's option). When the character awakens, she will remember the events of her visions as if she had lived them herself.
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Syneidetic Evocation Discipline ([[Moxiane]])
Cost: 10 motes, 1 Willpower
Type: Simple
Duration: Instant
Min. Investigation: 5
Min. Essence: 3
Prerequisites: Guilt-Finding Inquisitor Method
All across Creation people occasionally find themselves suffering from a twinge of conscience, hearing a little voice from the dark recesses of their mind that reminds them of each and every single crime that they have commited, every wrong that they have done. This amplifies a thousand-fold the strength of a person's conscience, with every immoral or illegal act playing out before their eyes as if they were the victim, rather than the perpetrator. At best this will cause the subject of the Syneidetic Evocation Discipline to collapse to their knees and confess their crimes, no matter how petty. However, for those of a darker character, who have commited offences such as murder or rape, their conscience makes itself known in the form of wounds that spontaneously appear over their bodies, and there were records of times in the First Age when this Charm was used and the victim fell over dead instantly, their crimes too great and powerful to resist. Unfortunately, this Charm will not affect anyone who has a permanent Essence higher than the character. (Note: this is a plot device Charm, so any mechanics would get in the way).
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[[SolarRelay/Willows|This Is For The Children Stance]] - [[willows]]
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Assured Retribution Defense - TedPro
:Cost: 3 motes
:Duration: Ten Thousand Years
:Type: Supplemental
:Min. Melee: 4
:Min. Essence: 3
:Prereq Charms: Golden Essence Block

Used to supplement a parry attempt. The Exalt emulates the destructive death-throes of the Primordials, cursing her murderer even in the moment of defeat. If the parry attempt fails, and the attack successfully kills the Exalt using the Charm, the attacker suffers a long-lasting curse. From that point forward, any attack on against the Exalt's murderer gains a number of automatic successes equal to the Exalt's Essence. These successes aapply to all attack, effect and damage rolls, but only for attacks which cause direct lethal or aggravated damage. This Charm requires no Essence to commit, and can only be removed by someone with an Essence of at least double the Exalt's.
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[[SolarRelay/Willows|Harmony of Celestial Sanction]] - [[willows]]
=== Comments ===

Okay, I'm giving this theme a try. I know this isn't the most intrinsically "retributive" Charm, but I see it forming the foundation of a retribution/revenge plot, and I like the idea of being able to use First Age memories in investigations. This is fairly crunch-minimal, but I figure it's mostly a matter for roleplaying. -- AntiVehicleRocket
:I don't think that this is a Charm at all. It's maybe a particularly interesting use of Past Life! That's about it, though. The applicability is so narrow that no character in his right mind would spend time and XP developing a Charm like this. - [[willows]]
::I could see it as a Charm, but for Lunars or Sidereals or Abyssals. Not for Solars. It just doesn't fit their theme at all, Solar's dont really deal with their past incarnations. - [[Telgar]]
:::To reply to both the comments at once -- [[willows]], you're certainly correct that this isn't exactly Ox-Body Technique in terms of universal utility, but it's intended to be broader in scope than it might appear. I'm working on the principle that most First Age Solars were living thousands of years and involved themselves in many different arenas, so barring some sort of weird plot reason otherwise, every use of this Charm should yield something useful about the First Age. Of course the Storyteller can say "nope, sorry, you get nothing," but an appropriately irritating ST could do that with most anything, and one of the principles of Exalted IMHO is that the characters' awesomeness shouldn't arbitrarily not work except because of other people's awesomeness. (Would it help mechanically if there was no Essence/WP cost attached if the Charm failed?) As for [[Telgar]] -- what makes you say that Solars don't or shouldn't deal with their past incarnations? The only reason they don't do much with it in canon is that their history has been so broken and suppressed that it's nearly impossible to find anything out (as opposed to Lunars and Sidereals, who both have a fairly-unbroken strand of history, and Abyssals, who have the Underworld and the Deathlords). I don't see any reason why it's intrinsically off-tone for Solars, but that may be just me. -- AntiVehicleRocket
::::It isn't broader in scope than it appears. It says, "I simulate the Past Lives Background in reference to a single mystery." That's like, only useful in a game where you are going to be studying mysteries of your past lives that you already remember, and where you have probably taken the Past Lives thingy anyway. It's not only redundant but non-awesome.

Edit: This Charm clearly operates on the assumption that you have memories that you don't regularly have access to. Based on my interpretation of Sidereals and the core, this is a divergent opinion, or at best one of several different, good interpretations (For instance, I assume that Lytek removes, rather than locks up, any memories that he doesn't want to give out access to). It needs to state that this is the assumption it's working under, or it doesn't have any discernible effect. In addition!, I think that this could be dramatically improved by explicitly allowing it to restore memories that Lytek has excised. This guarantees that it's useful, assuming that it has already been established that one's past self was involved in some matter in the past. - [[willows]]

::::Solars are great heroes, they do everything better then best and glow with the holy power of the sun. That's about it. I don't think ANY Exalted should deal with their past lives, but if anyone does it'd be the Sidereals who can look up files on themselves magically or the Lunars who can do some freaky shamanistic magic or an Abyssal summoning up his previous incarnation's Higher Soul to answer questions. Solars...really just don't have a connection to their past incarnations. They're heroes in and of themselves. They don't need help from dead folks. - [[Telgar]]

::::: Err... just to nitpick a bit, I believe the higher souls of slain Abyssals tend to get dragged screaming into the Mouth of the Void. But then, it's a little unclear, because in the very next paragraph of E:tA (pg 116) it talks about the souls of honored deathknights being treated with fame and renown, which seems unlikely treatment for a lower soul. - DigitalSentience

This is my attempt to restart CharmRelay after almost killing it. Idea stolen from a couple of sources. :) - [[Moxiane]]
:I like this a great deal; you're probably right not to give it many hard-and-fast mechanics, because it should be a plot point Charm. I'm curious about a few things, though. First, how severe do the offenses have to be to cause wounds? Does it have to be a rape- or murder-caliber crime, or can it be anything the target feels particularly strong regrets about? (Presumably this does have the whole "as appropriate to the plot" thing going, though.) Also, how does this function on those with absolutely no regret or remorse (demons, psychopaths, and so on)? -- AntiVehicleRocket

New Charm created. Wasn't sure how to play balance it. It might be too cheap or too expensive; I just liked the idea of a Charm with a Duration of "Ten Thousand Years." Anyone up to closing out this Relay with a final Charm? --TedPro

:That's a cool Charm! I'd drop the cost down to 1 mote, to match the "dying curse" spells in sorcery. I'm working on a final charm as we speak! - [[willows]]

:: I made dropped it to three. --TedPro

I like that charm too. -- [[Darloth]]

Interesting Charm, [[willows]]! I'm a little confused on something, though. It's described as "binding to a duellists's oath" but that isn't explained any further, and the rest of the mechanics seem to involve massive counterattacks, rather than any duellist's oath. It's a great Charm, but the oath part should either be fleshed out a little or dropped. Also, does any attack count, or only a successful attack? -TedPro

:Any attack counts; I've made the text clearer. - [[willows]]

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 :I don't think that this is a Charm at all. It's maybe a particularly interesting use of Past Life! That's about it, though. The applicability is so narrow that no character in his right mind would spend time and XP developing a Charm like this. - [[willows]]
 ::I could see it as a Charm, but for Lunars or Sidereals or Abyssals. Not for Solars. It just doesn't fit their theme at all, Solar's dont really deal with their past incarnations. - [[Telgar]]
-:::To reply to both the comments at once -- [[willows]], you're certainly correct that this isn't exactly Ox-Body Technique in terms of universal utility, but it's intended to be broader in scope than it might appear. I'm working on the principle that most First Age Solars were living thousands of years and involved themselves in many different arenas, so barring some sort of weird plot reason otherwise, every use of this Charm should yield <i>something</i> useful about the First Age. Of course the Storyteller can say "nope, sorry, you get nothing," but an appropriately irritating ST could do that with most anything, and one of the principles of Exalted IMHO is that the characters' awesomeness shouldn't arbitrarily not work except because of other people's awesomeness. (Would it help mechanically if there was no [[EssenceCharmRelay/Retribution/WP]] cost attached if the Charm failed?) As for [[Telgar]] -- what makes you say that Solars don't or shouldn't deal with their past incarnations? The only reason they don't do much with it in canon is that their history has been so broken and suppressed that it's nearly impossible to find anything out (as opposed to Lunars and Sidereals, who both have a fairly-unbroken strand of history, and Abyssals, who have the Underworld and the Deathlords). I don't see any reason why it's intrinsically off-tone for Solars, but that may be just me. -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
+:::To reply to both the comments at once -- [[willows]], you're certainly correct that this isn't exactly Ox-Body Technique in terms of universal utility, but it's intended to be broader in scope than it might appear. I'm working on the principle that most First Age Solars were living thousands of years and involved themselves in many different arenas, so barring some sort of weird plot reason otherwise, every use of this Charm should yield <i>something</i> useful about the First Age. Of course the Storyteller can say "nope, sorry, you get nothing," but an appropriately irritating ST could do that with most anything, and one of the principles of Exalted IMHO is that the characters' awesomeness shouldn't arbitrarily not work except because of other people's awesomeness. (Would it help mechanically if there was no Essence/WP cost attached if the Charm failed?) As for [[Telgar]] -- what makes you say that Solars don't or shouldn't deal with their past incarnations? The only reason they don't do much with it in canon is that their history has been so broken and suppressed that it's nearly impossible to find anything out (as opposed to Lunars and Sidereals, who both have a fairly-unbroken strand of history, and Abyssals, who have the Underworld and the Deathlords). I don't see any reason why it's intrinsically off-tone for Solars, but that may be just me. -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
 ::::It <i>isn't</i> broader in scope than it appears. It says, "I simulate the Past Lives Background in reference to a single mystery." That's like, only useful in a game where you are going to be studying mysteries of your past lives that you <i>already</i> remember, and where you have probably taken the Past Lives thingy anyway. It's not only redundant but non-awesome.

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 == Retribution ==
-<b>These are SolarCharms</b>.
+<b>These are [[SolarCharms]]</b>.
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-<b><i>Meditation of Half-Remembered Crimes</i></b> (AntiVehicleRocket)
+<b><i>Meditation of Half-Remembered Crimes</i></b> ([[AntiVehicleRocket]])
    <b>Cost:</b> 12 motes, 1 Willpower
    <b>Type:</b> Simple
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 All across Creation people occasionally find themselves suffering from a twinge of conscience, hearing a little voice from the dark recesses of their mind that reminds them of each and every single crime that they have commited, every wrong that they have done. This amplifies a thousand-fold the strength of a person's conscience, with every immoral or illegal act playing out before their eyes as if <i>they</i> were the victim, rather than the perpetrator. At best this will cause the subject of the Syneidetic Evocation Discipline to collapse to their knees and confess their crimes, no matter how petty. However, for those of a darker character, who have commited offences such as murder or rape, their conscience makes itself known in the form of wounds that spontaneously appear over their bodies, and there were records of times in the First Age when this Charm was used and the victim fell over dead instantly, their crimes too great and powerful to resist. Unfortunately, this Charm will not affect anyone who has a permanent Essence higher than the character. (Note: this is a plot device Charm, so any mechanics would get in the way).
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-<b><i>This Is For The Children Stance</i></b> - [[willows]]
+[[SolarRelay/Willows|This Is For The Children Stance]] - [[willows]]
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-<b><i>Assured Retribution Defense</i></b> - TedPro
+<b><i>Assured Retribution Defense</i></b> - [[TedPro]]
 :<b>Cost: </b>3 motes
 :<b>Duration: </b>Ten Thousand Years
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 Used to supplement a parry attempt.  The Exalt emulates the destructive death-throes of the Primordials, cursing her murderer even in the moment of defeat.  If the parry attempt fails, and the attack successfully kills the Exalt using the Charm, the attacker suffers a long-lasting curse.  From that point forward, any attack on against the Exalt's murderer gains a number of automatic successes equal to the Exalt's Essence.  These successes aapply to all attack, effect and damage rolls, but only for attacks which cause direct lethal or aggravated damage.  This Charm requires no Essence to commit, and can only be removed by someone with an Essence of at least double the Exalt's.
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-<b><i>Harmony of Celestial Sanction</i></b> - [[willows]]
+[[SolarRelay/Willows|Harmony of Celestial Sanction]] - [[willows]]
 === Comments ===
-Okay, I'm giving this theme a try. I know this isn't the most intrinsically "retributive" Charm, but I see it forming the foundation of a retribution/revenge plot, and I like the idea of being able to use First Age memories in investigations. This is fairly crunch-minimal, but I figure it's mostly a matter for roleplaying. -- AntiVehicleRocket
+Okay, I'm giving this theme a try. I know this isn't the most intrinsically "retributive" Charm, but I see it forming the foundation of a retribution/revenge plot, and I like the idea of being able to use First Age memories in investigations. This is fairly crunch-minimal, but I figure it's mostly a matter for roleplaying. -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
 :I don't think that this is a Charm at all. It's maybe a particularly interesting use of Past Life! That's about it, though. The applicability is so narrow that no character in his right mind would spend time and XP developing a Charm like this. - [[willows]]
 ::I could see it as a Charm, but for Lunars or Sidereals or Abyssals. Not for Solars. It just doesn't fit their theme at all, Solar's dont really deal with their past incarnations. - [[Telgar]]
-:::To reply to both the comments at once -- [[willows]], you're certainly correct that this isn't exactly Ox-Body Technique in terms of universal utility, but it's intended to be broader in scope than it might appear. I'm working on the principle that most First Age Solars were living thousands of years and involved themselves in many different arenas, so barring some sort of weird plot reason otherwise, every use of this Charm should yield <i>something</i> useful about the First Age. Of course the Storyteller can say "nope, sorry, you get nothing," but an appropriately irritating ST could do that with most anything, and one of the principles of Exalted IMHO is that the characters' awesomeness shouldn't arbitrarily not work except because of other people's awesomeness. (Would it help mechanically if there was no Essence/WP cost attached if the Charm failed?) As for [[Telgar]] -- what makes you say that Solars don't or shouldn't deal with their past incarnations? The only reason they don't do much with it in canon is that their history has been so broken and suppressed that it's nearly impossible to find anything out (as opposed to Lunars and Sidereals, who both have a fairly-unbroken strand of history, and Abyssals, who have the Underworld and the Deathlords). I don't see any reason why it's intrinsically off-tone for Solars, but that may be just me. -- AntiVehicleRocket
+:::To reply to both the comments at once -- [[willows]], you're certainly correct that this isn't exactly Ox-Body Technique in terms of universal utility, but it's intended to be broader in scope than it might appear. I'm working on the principle that most First Age Solars were living thousands of years and involved themselves in many different arenas, so barring some sort of weird plot reason otherwise, every use of this Charm should yield <i>something</i> useful about the First Age. Of course the Storyteller can say "nope, sorry, you get nothing," but an appropriately irritating ST could do that with most anything, and one of the principles of Exalted IMHO is that the characters' awesomeness shouldn't arbitrarily not work except because of other people's awesomeness. (Would it help mechanically if there was no [[EssenceCharmRelay/Retribution/WP]] cost attached if the Charm failed?) As for [[Telgar]] -- what makes you say that Solars don't or shouldn't deal with their past incarnations? The only reason they don't do much with it in canon is that their history has been so broken and suppressed that it's nearly impossible to find anything out (as opposed to Lunars and Sidereals, who both have a fairly-unbroken strand of history, and Abyssals, who have the Underworld and the Deathlords). I don't see any reason why it's intrinsically off-tone for Solars, but that may be just me. -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
 ::::It <i>isn't</i> broader in scope than it appears. It says, "I simulate the Past Lives Background in reference to a single mystery." That's like, only useful in a game where you are going to be studying mysteries of your past lives that you <i>already</i> remember, and where you have probably taken the Past Lives thingy anyway. It's not only redundant but non-awesome.
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 ::::Solars are great heroes, they do everything better then best and glow with the holy power of the sun. That's about it. I don't think ANY Exalted should deal with their past lives, but if anyone does it'd be the Sidereals who can look up files on themselves magically or the Lunars who can do some freaky shamanistic magic or an Abyssal summoning up his previous incarnation's Higher Soul to answer questions. Solars...really just don't have a connection to their past incarnations. They're heroes in and of themselves. They don't need help from dead folks. - [[Telgar]]
-::::: Err... just to nitpick a bit, I believe the higher souls of slain Abyssals tend to get dragged screaming into the Mouth of the Void.  But then, it's a little unclear, because in the very next paragraph of E:tA (pg 116) it talks about the souls of honored deathknights being treated with fame and renown, which seems unlikely treatment for a lower soul.  - DigitalSentience
+::::: Err... just to nitpick a bit, I believe the higher souls of slain Abyssals tend to get dragged screaming into the Mouth of the Void.  But then, it's a little unclear, because in the very next paragraph of E:tA (pg 116) it talks about the souls of honored deathknights being treated with fame and renown, which seems unlikely treatment for a lower soul.  - [[DigitalSentience]]
-This is my attempt to restart CharmRelay after almost killing it. Idea stolen from a couple of sources. :) - [[Moxiane]]
+This is my attempt to restart [[CharmRelay]] after almost killing it. Idea stolen from a couple of sources. :) - [[Moxiane]]
-:I like this a great deal; you're probably right not to give it many hard-and-fast mechanics, because it should be a plot point Charm. I'm curious about a few things, though. First, how severe do the offenses have to be to cause wounds? Does it have to be a rape- or murder-caliber crime, or can it be anything the target feels particularly strong regrets about? (Presumably this does have the whole "as appropriate to the plot" thing going, though.) Also, how does this function on those with absolutely no regret or remorse (demons, psychopaths, and so on)? -- AntiVehicleRocket
+:I like this a great deal; you're probably right not to give it many hard-and-fast mechanics, because it should be a plot point Charm. I'm curious about a few things, though. First, how severe do the offenses have to be to cause wounds? Does it have to be a rape- or murder-caliber crime, or can it be anything the target feels particularly strong regrets about? (Presumably this does have the whole "as appropriate to the plot" thing going, though.) Also, how does this function on those with absolutely no regret or remorse (demons, psychopaths, and so on)? -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
-New Charm created.  Wasn't sure how to play balance it.  It might be too cheap or too expensive; I just liked the idea of a Charm with a Duration of "Ten Thousand Years."  Anyone up to closing out this Relay with a final Charm?  --TedPro
+New Charm created.  Wasn't sure how to play balance it.  It might be too cheap or too expensive; I just liked the idea of a Charm with a Duration of "Ten Thousand Years."  Anyone up to closing out this Relay with a final Charm?  --[[TedPro]]
 :That's a cool Charm! I'd drop the cost down to 1 mote, to match the "dying curse" spells in sorcery. I'm working on a final charm as we speak! - [[willows]]
-:: I made dropped it to three.  --TedPro
+:: I made dropped it to three.  --[[TedPro]]
 I like that charm too. -- [[Darloth]]
-Interesting Charm, [[willows]]!  I'm a little confused on something, though.  It's described as "binding to a duellists's oath" but that isn't explained any further, and the rest of the mechanics seem to involve massive counterattacks, rather than any duellist's oath.  It's a great Charm, but the oath part should either be fleshed out a little or dropped.  Also, does any attack count, or only a successful attack?  -TedPro
+Interesting Charm, [[willows]]!  I'm a little confused on something, though.  It's described as "binding to a duellists's oath" but that isn't explained any further, and the rest of the mechanics seem to involve massive counterattacks, rather than any duellist's oath.  It's a great Charm, but the oath part should either be fleshed out a little or dropped.  Also, does any attack count, or only a successful attack?  -[[TedPro]]
 :Any attack counts; I've made the text clearer. - [[willows]]

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 == Retribution ==
-<b>These are SolarCharms</b>.
+<b>These are [[SolarCharms]]</b>.
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-<b><i>Meditation of Half-Remembered Crimes</i></b> (AntiVehicleRocket)
+<b><i>Meditation of Half-Remembered Crimes</i></b> ([[AntiVehicleRocket]])
    <b>Cost:</b> 12 motes, 1 Willpower
    <b>Type:</b> Simple
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 [[SolarRelay/Willows|This Is For The Children Stance]] - [[willows]]
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-<b><i>Assured Retribution Defense</i></b> - TedPro
+<b><i>Assured Retribution Defense</i></b> - [[TedPro]]
 :<b>Cost: </b>3 motes
 :<b>Duration: </b>Ten Thousand Years
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 === Comments ===
-Okay, I'm giving this theme a try. I know this isn't the most intrinsically "retributive" Charm, but I see it forming the foundation of a retribution/revenge plot, and I like the idea of being able to use First Age memories in investigations. This is fairly crunch-minimal, but I figure it's mostly a matter for roleplaying. -- AntiVehicleRocket
+Okay, I'm giving this theme a try. I know this isn't the most intrinsically "retributive" Charm, but I see it forming the foundation of a retribution/revenge plot, and I like the idea of being able to use First Age memories in investigations. This is fairly crunch-minimal, but I figure it's mostly a matter for roleplaying. -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
 :I don't think that this is a Charm at all. It's maybe a particularly interesting use of Past Life! That's about it, though. The applicability is so narrow that no character in his right mind would spend time and XP developing a Charm like this. - [[willows]]
 ::I could see it as a Charm, but for Lunars or Sidereals or Abyssals. Not for Solars. It just doesn't fit their theme at all, Solar's dont really deal with their past incarnations. - [[Telgar]]
-:::To reply to both the comments at once -- [[willows]], you're certainly correct that this isn't exactly Ox-Body Technique in terms of universal utility, but it's intended to be broader in scope than it might appear. I'm working on the principle that most First Age Solars were living thousands of years and involved themselves in many different arenas, so barring some sort of weird plot reason otherwise, every use of this Charm should yield <i>something</i> useful about the First Age. Of course the Storyteller can say "nope, sorry, you get nothing," but an appropriately irritating ST could do that with most anything, and one of the principles of Exalted IMHO is that the characters' awesomeness shouldn't arbitrarily not work except because of other people's awesomeness. (Would it help mechanically if there was no Essence/WP cost attached if the Charm failed?) As for [[Telgar]] -- what makes you say that Solars don't or shouldn't deal with their past incarnations? The only reason they don't do much with it in canon is that their history has been so broken and suppressed that it's nearly impossible to find anything out (as opposed to Lunars and Sidereals, who both have a fairly-unbroken strand of history, and Abyssals, who have the Underworld and the Deathlords). I don't see any reason why it's intrinsically off-tone for Solars, but that may be just me. -- AntiVehicleRocket
+:::To reply to both the comments at once -- [[willows]], you're certainly correct that this isn't exactly Ox-Body Technique in terms of universal utility, but it's intended to be broader in scope than it might appear. I'm working on the principle that most First Age Solars were living thousands of years and involved themselves in many different arenas, so barring some sort of weird plot reason otherwise, every use of this Charm should yield <i>something</i> useful about the First Age. Of course the Storyteller can say "nope, sorry, you get nothing," but an appropriately irritating ST could do that with most anything, and one of the principles of Exalted IMHO is that the characters' awesomeness shouldn't arbitrarily not work except because of other people's awesomeness. (Would it help mechanically if there was no Essence[[/WP]] cost attached if the Charm failed?) As for [[Telgar]] -- what makes you say that Solars don't or shouldn't deal with their past incarnations? The only reason they don't do much with it in canon is that their history has been so broken and suppressed that it's nearly impossible to find anything out (as opposed to Lunars and Sidereals, who both have a fairly-unbroken strand of history, and Abyssals, who have the Underworld and the Deathlords). I don't see any reason why it's intrinsically off-tone for Solars, but that may be just me. -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
 ::::It <i>isn't</i> broader in scope than it appears. It says, "I simulate the Past Lives Background in reference to a single mystery." That's like, only useful in a game where you are going to be studying mysteries of your past lives that you <i>already</i> remember, and where you have probably taken the Past Lives thingy anyway. It's not only redundant but non-awesome.
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 ::::Solars are great heroes, they do everything better then best and glow with the holy power of the sun. That's about it. I don't think ANY Exalted should deal with their past lives, but if anyone does it'd be the Sidereals who can look up files on themselves magically or the Lunars who can do some freaky shamanistic magic or an Abyssal summoning up his previous incarnation's Higher Soul to answer questions. Solars...really just don't have a connection to their past incarnations. They're heroes in and of themselves. They don't need help from dead folks. - [[Telgar]]
-::::: Err... just to nitpick a bit, I believe the higher souls of slain Abyssals tend to get dragged screaming into the Mouth of the Void.  But then, it's a little unclear, because in the very next paragraph of E:tA (pg 116) it talks about the souls of honored deathknights being treated with fame and renown, which seems unlikely treatment for a lower soul.  - DigitalSentience
+::::: Err... just to nitpick a bit, I believe the higher souls of slain Abyssals tend to get dragged screaming into the Mouth of the Void.  But then, it's a little unclear, because in the very next paragraph of E:tA (pg 116) it talks about the souls of honored deathknights being treated with fame and renown, which seems unlikely treatment for a lower soul.  - [[DigitalSentience]]
-This is my attempt to restart CharmRelay after almost killing it. Idea stolen from a couple of sources. :) - [[Moxiane]]
+This is my attempt to restart [[CharmRelay]] after almost killing it. Idea stolen from a couple of sources. :) - [[Moxiane]]
-:I like this a great deal; you're probably right not to give it many hard-and-fast mechanics, because it should be a plot point Charm. I'm curious about a few things, though. First, how severe do the offenses have to be to cause wounds? Does it have to be a rape- or murder-caliber crime, or can it be anything the target feels particularly strong regrets about? (Presumably this does have the whole "as appropriate to the plot" thing going, though.) Also, how does this function on those with absolutely no regret or remorse (demons, psychopaths, and so on)? -- AntiVehicleRocket
+:I like this a great deal; you're probably right not to give it many hard-and-fast mechanics, because it should be a plot point Charm. I'm curious about a few things, though. First, how severe do the offenses have to be to cause wounds? Does it have to be a rape- or murder-caliber crime, or can it be anything the target feels particularly strong regrets about? (Presumably this does have the whole "as appropriate to the plot" thing going, though.) Also, how does this function on those with absolutely no regret or remorse (demons, psychopaths, and so on)? -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
-New Charm created.  Wasn't sure how to play balance it.  It might be too cheap or too expensive; I just liked the idea of a Charm with a Duration of "Ten Thousand Years."  Anyone up to closing out this Relay with a final Charm?  --TedPro
+New Charm created.  Wasn't sure how to play balance it.  It might be too cheap or too expensive; I just liked the idea of a Charm with a Duration of "Ten Thousand Years."  Anyone up to closing out this Relay with a final Charm?  --[[TedPro]]
 :That's a cool Charm! I'd drop the cost down to 1 mote, to match the "dying curse" spells in sorcery. I'm working on a final charm as we speak! - [[willows]]
-:: I made dropped it to three.  --TedPro
+:: I made dropped it to three.  --[[TedPro]]
 I like that charm too. -- [[Darloth]]
-Interesting Charm, [[willows]]!  I'm a little confused on something, though.  It's described as "binding to a duellists's oath" but that isn't explained any further, and the rest of the mechanics seem to involve massive counterattacks, rather than any duellist's oath.  It's a great Charm, but the oath part should either be fleshed out a little or dropped.  Also, does any attack count, or only a successful attack?  -TedPro
+Interesting Charm, [[willows]]!  I'm a little confused on something, though.  It's described as "binding to a duellists's oath" but that isn't explained any further, and the rest of the mechanics seem to involve massive counterattacks, rather than any duellist's oath.  It's a great Charm, but the oath part should either be fleshed out a little or dropped.  Also, does any attack count, or only a successful attack?  -[[TedPro]]
 :Any attack counts; I've made the text clearer. - [[willows]]

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-* Back to [[CharmRelay]]
+* Back to CharmRelay
-* Back to [[CrunchRelay]]
+* Back to CrunchRelay
 == Retribution ==
-<b>These are [[SolarCharms]]</b>.
+<b>These are SolarCharms</b>.
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-<b><i>Meditation of Half-Remembered Crimes</i></b> ([[AntiVehicleRocket]])
+<b><i>Meditation of Half-Remembered Crimes</i></b> (AntiVehicleRocket)
    <b>Cost:</b> 12 motes, 1 Willpower
    <b>Type:</b> Simple
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 All across Creation people occasionally find themselves suffering from a twinge of conscience, hearing a little voice from the dark recesses of their mind that reminds them of each and every single crime that they have commited, every wrong that they have done. This amplifies a thousand-fold the strength of a person's conscience, with every immoral or illegal act playing out before their eyes as if <i>they</i> were the victim, rather than the perpetrator. At best this will cause the subject of the Syneidetic Evocation Discipline to collapse to their knees and confess their crimes, no matter how petty. However, for those of a darker character, who have commited offences such as murder or rape, their conscience makes itself known in the form of wounds that spontaneously appear over their bodies, and there were records of times in the First Age when this Charm was used and the victim fell over dead instantly, their crimes too great and powerful to resist. Unfortunately, this Charm will not affect anyone who has a permanent Essence higher than the character. (Note: this is a plot device Charm, so any mechanics would get in the way).
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-[[SolarRelay/Willows|This Is For The Children Stance]] - [[willows]]
+<b><i>This Is For The Children Stance</i></b> - [[willows]]
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-<b><i>Assured Retribution Defense</i></b> - [[TedPro]]
+<b><i>Assured Retribution Defense</i></b> - TedPro
 :<b>Cost: </b>3 motes
 :<b>Duration: </b>Ten Thousand Years
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 Used to supplement a parry attempt.  The Exalt emulates the destructive death-throes of the Primordials, cursing her murderer even in the moment of defeat.  If the parry attempt fails, and the attack successfully kills the Exalt using the Charm, the attacker suffers a long-lasting curse.  From that point forward, any attack on against the Exalt's murderer gains a number of automatic successes equal to the Exalt's Essence.  These successes aapply to all attack, effect and damage rolls, but only for attacks which cause direct lethal or aggravated damage.  This Charm requires no Essence to commit, and can only be removed by someone with an Essence of at least double the Exalt's.
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-[[SolarRelay/Willows|Harmony of Celestial Sanction]] - [[willows]]
+<b><i>Harmony of Celestial Sanction</i></b> - [[willows]]
 === Comments ===
-Okay, I'm giving this theme a try. I know this isn't the most intrinsically "retributive" Charm, but I see it forming the foundation of a retribution/revenge plot, and I like the idea of being able to use First Age memories in investigations. This is fairly crunch-minimal, but I figure it's mostly a matter for roleplaying. -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
+Okay, I'm giving this theme a try. I know this isn't the most intrinsically "retributive" Charm, but I see it forming the foundation of a retribution/revenge plot, and I like the idea of being able to use First Age memories in investigations. This is fairly crunch-minimal, but I figure it's mostly a matter for roleplaying. -- AntiVehicleRocket
 :I don't think that this is a Charm at all. It's maybe a particularly interesting use of Past Life! That's about it, though. The applicability is so narrow that no character in his right mind would spend time and XP developing a Charm like this. - [[willows]]
 ::I could see it as a Charm, but for Lunars or Sidereals or Abyssals. Not for Solars. It just doesn't fit their theme at all, Solar's dont really deal with their past incarnations. - [[Telgar]]
-:::To reply to both the comments at once -- [[willows]], you're certainly correct that this isn't exactly Ox-Body Technique in terms of universal utility, but it's intended to be broader in scope than it might appear. I'm working on the principle that most First Age Solars were living thousands of years and involved themselves in many different arenas, so barring some sort of weird plot reason otherwise, every use of this Charm should yield <i>something</i> useful about the First Age. Of course the Storyteller can say "nope, sorry, you get nothing," but an appropriately irritating ST could do that with most anything, and one of the principles of Exalted IMHO is that the characters' awesomeness shouldn't arbitrarily not work except because of other people's awesomeness. (Would it help mechanically if there was no Essence[[/WP]] cost attached if the Charm failed?) As for [[Telgar]] -- what makes you say that Solars don't or shouldn't deal with their past incarnations? The only reason they don't do much with it in canon is that their history has been so broken and suppressed that it's nearly impossible to find anything out (as opposed to Lunars and Sidereals, who both have a fairly-unbroken strand of history, and Abyssals, who have the Underworld and the Deathlords). I don't see any reason why it's intrinsically off-tone for Solars, but that may be just me. -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
+:::To reply to both the comments at once -- [[willows]], you're certainly correct that this isn't exactly Ox-Body Technique in terms of universal utility, but it's intended to be broader in scope than it might appear. I'm working on the principle that most First Age Solars were living thousands of years and involved themselves in many different arenas, so barring some sort of weird plot reason otherwise, every use of this Charm should yield <i>something</i> useful about the First Age. Of course the Storyteller can say "nope, sorry, you get nothing," but an appropriately irritating ST could do that with most anything, and one of the principles of Exalted IMHO is that the characters' awesomeness shouldn't arbitrarily not work except because of other people's awesomeness. (Would it help mechanically if there was no Essence/WP cost attached if the Charm failed?) As for [[Telgar]] -- what makes you say that Solars don't or shouldn't deal with their past incarnations? The only reason they don't do much with it in canon is that their history has been so broken and suppressed that it's nearly impossible to find anything out (as opposed to Lunars and Sidereals, who both have a fairly-unbroken strand of history, and Abyssals, who have the Underworld and the Deathlords). I don't see any reason why it's intrinsically off-tone for Solars, but that may be just me. -- AntiVehicleRocket
 ::::It <i>isn't</i> broader in scope than it appears. It says, "I simulate the Past Lives Background in reference to a single mystery." That's like, only useful in a game where you are going to be studying mysteries of your past lives that you <i>already</i> remember, and where you have probably taken the Past Lives thingy anyway. It's not only redundant but non-awesome.
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 ::::Solars are great heroes, they do everything better then best and glow with the holy power of the sun. That's about it. I don't think ANY Exalted should deal with their past lives, but if anyone does it'd be the Sidereals who can look up files on themselves magically or the Lunars who can do some freaky shamanistic magic or an Abyssal summoning up his previous incarnation's Higher Soul to answer questions. Solars...really just don't have a connection to their past incarnations. They're heroes in and of themselves. They don't need help from dead folks. - [[Telgar]]
-::::: Err... just to nitpick a bit, I believe the higher souls of slain Abyssals tend to get dragged screaming into the Mouth of the Void.  But then, it's a little unclear, because in the very next paragraph of E:tA (pg 116) it talks about the souls of honored deathknights being treated with fame and renown, which seems unlikely treatment for a lower soul.  - [[DigitalSentience]]
+::::: Err... just to nitpick a bit, I believe the higher souls of slain Abyssals tend to get dragged screaming into the Mouth of the Void.  But then, it's a little unclear, because in the very next paragraph of E:tA (pg 116) it talks about the souls of honored deathknights being treated with fame and renown, which seems unlikely treatment for a lower soul.  - DigitalSentience
-This is my attempt to restart [[CharmRelay]] after almost killing it. Idea stolen from a couple of sources. :) - [[Moxiane]]
+This is my attempt to restart CharmRelay after almost killing it. Idea stolen from a couple of sources. :) - [[Moxiane]]
-:I like this a great deal; you're probably right not to give it many hard-and-fast mechanics, because it should be a plot point Charm. I'm curious about a few things, though. First, how severe do the offenses have to be to cause wounds? Does it have to be a rape- or murder-caliber crime, or can it be anything the target feels particularly strong regrets about? (Presumably this does have the whole "as appropriate to the plot" thing going, though.) Also, how does this function on those with absolutely no regret or remorse (demons, psychopaths, and so on)? -- [[AntiVehicleRocket]]
+:I like this a great deal; you're probably right not to give it many hard-and-fast mechanics, because it should be a plot point Charm. I'm curious about a few things, though. First, how severe do the offenses have to be to cause wounds? Does it have to be a rape- or murder-caliber crime, or can it be anything the target feels particularly strong regrets about? (Presumably this does have the whole "as appropriate to the plot" thing going, though.) Also, how does this function on those with absolutely no regret or remorse (demons, psychopaths, and so on)? -- AntiVehicleRocket
-New Charm created.  Wasn't sure how to play balance it.  It might be too cheap or too expensive; I just liked the idea of a Charm with a Duration of "Ten Thousand Years."  Anyone up to closing out this Relay with a final Charm?  --[[TedPro]]
+New Charm created.  Wasn't sure how to play balance it.  It might be too cheap or too expensive; I just liked the idea of a Charm with a Duration of "Ten Thousand Years."  Anyone up to closing out this Relay with a final Charm?  --TedPro
 :That's a cool Charm! I'd drop the cost down to 1 mote, to match the "dying curse" spells in sorcery. I'm working on a final charm as we speak! - [[willows]]
-:: I made dropped it to three.  --[[TedPro]]
+:: I made dropped it to three.  --TedPro
 I like that charm too. -- [[Darloth]]
-Interesting Charm, [[willows]]!  I'm a little confused on something, though.  It's described as "binding to a duellists's oath" but that isn't explained any further, and the rest of the mechanics seem to involve massive counterattacks, rather than any duellist's oath.  It's a great Charm, but the oath part should either be fleshed out a little or dropped.  Also, does any attack count, or only a successful attack?  -[[TedPro]]
+Interesting Charm, [[willows]]!  I'm a little confused on something, though.  It's described as "binding to a duellists's oath" but that isn't explained any further, and the rest of the mechanics seem to involve massive counterattacks, rather than any duellist's oath.  It's a great Charm, but the oath part should either be fleshed out a little or dropped.  Also, does any attack count, or only a successful attack?  -TedPro
 :Any attack counts; I've made the text clearer. - [[willows]]

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