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DarkPhoenix: My two cents on solo units (M&S)

2006-06-25T03:42:46Z

*My two cents on solo units (M&S)*

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This page is for my Mail and Steel information.

Or, you can go back to /ArmyInformation

First, information on how Mail and Steel works.

= How MnS Works =
;HTH Attack Modifier:If the troops can attack hth, the army can make hth attacks. Adjust the leader's hth attacks as follows
::+ Magnitude Difference (min -3, max +3) successes
::+ Troop average ((Dex + hth Abil)/2 round up) successes
::+ Might

;Ranged Attack Modifier:If the troops can attack at range, the army can make ranged attacks. Adjust the leader's ranged attacks as follows
::+ Magnitude Difference (min -3, max +3) successes
::+ Troop average ((Dex + ranged Abil)/2 round up) successes
::+ Might
:Range is limited to the troop average

;Damage Modifier:Adjust the leader's damage as follows
::+ 1/3 troop average damage for that type of attack (round up)
:Minimum of Magnitude (not leader's Essence, unless Solo unit)

;Parries:If the troops can attack hth, adjust the leader's parries as follows
::+ Magnitude Difference (min -3, max +3) successes
::+ Troop average ((Dex + hth Abil)/2 round up) successes

;Dodges:Adjust the leader's dodges as follows
::+ Magnitude Difference (min -3, max +3) successes

;Armour Soak:The leader gains extra armour soak that cannot be bypassed as follows
::+ 1/3 of troop average L soak (round up)

;Essence:Adjust the leader's Essence for defensive purposes only as follows
::+ Might

;Health Levels:Unit health levels are as follows
::The unit has the leader's health levels, but
:When the army gets to incapacitated
::Reduce Magnitude by one
::"Heal" all wounds, i.e. start at full health levels for the lower Magnitude
::Check for Rout! ^_^

;Initiative:Unit initiative is as follows
::+ Leader's Charisma + Leader's Presence + d10
::+ Drill
::- Magnitude

== Secondrary Information ==
;Drill:1 Militia, 2 Mediocre, 3 Good, 4 Elite, 5 Superior

;Might:Add any of the following that apply (each line contributes once) to all troops
::1 God Blood, 2 DB, 3 Old DB, 4 Celestial Exalt with XP, 5 ...
::1 talismans, 2 daiklave + 5mm armour, 3 essence discharge weapons, 4 first age weapons
::2 dragon armour or warstriders
::2 terrestrial exalts withat least two group Charms

;Valour:Minimum of (Leaders valour) and (troop average valour)

;Order:Close
::2x HTH "skill" (presume this means Ability)
::2x shield and cover bonuses
::2x Enemy magnitude for missile fire only
::0.5 x movement
::-2 hesitation difficulty
:Relaxed
::2x (shield and cover bonuses) against missiles
:Skirmish
::+3 difficulty for Enemy archers
::2x (shield and cover bonuses) against missiles
::2x Enemy magnitude for hth attacks only (3x if enemy in Close order)
::1.5x movement
::+2 hesitation difficulty
:Unordered
::+2 hesitation difficulty

;Attacks on Individuals:These work as follows
::Against leaders, heroes and relays ... - Max (Drill, Magnitude) dice
::Against sorcerors ... - Max (Drill, 2xMagnitude) dice
:The unit defends normally (i.e. leader, adjusted for unit)!
:Damage is done to the individual. The unit takes no damage!

;Do Individuals Survive:They sometimes do. ^_^
::Roll Wits + Willpower, difficulty max drop in magnitude for battle ... or take d10L

===== Comments =====
Note that the wording (e.g. for Drill) is mine, but the effects are as per cannon. ^_^
-- BrokenShade

Can a unit that has hesitated still parry an attack? - [[Malikai]]

Has anyone worked out if might and magnitude apply to solo units? I presume might does, but magnitude is iffy... According to the rules, a single celestial exalt has magnitude above zero, perhaps as high as 2. Since this may make a big difference in small engagements (and allow them to kill armies much better) I'd love to hear what people think. -- [[Darloth]]

:The way I understand the rules is that solo units, regardless of how strong they are, are always Magnitude 0, because it makes mention that special characters, i.e. solo units, don't add the unit's Magnitude bonus or traits, and I'd assume that this extends to themselves not having a Magnitude bonus (however, I may be wrong, as I myself can think of counter-arguments). As for Might, however, I would definitely say that solo units have a Might modifier, because a solo unit consisting of an Essence 6 Solar in a warstrider carrying around a recovered First Age relic is a must more powerful addition to the team than a single farmer with a pitchfork (again, I know that no one in their right mind would make a solo unit of a farmer with a pitchfork, but I deliberately chose extreme examples). Even without a Magnitude score, a single Celestial Exalt does make a world of difference, but, as Magnitude seems to act as a series of health bars, I'd say no, solo units don't have Magnitude. -- [[DarkPhoenix]], who needs to learn these rules as he'll soon be leading an army into battle.

While I'm thinking about Mail and Steel, something came to mind. Area effects don't actually get any bonus against troop formations that I can find... admittedly, you can't use single-target effects to damage legions at all... but the fact that a single guy with a sword often has more of an effect on a legion than someone casting DOoB (which seems to be designed to impede armies, based on the size and relatively low damage of the effect) is a bit weird. Artillery tend to have things made up by special rules for them, but what are people's thoughts on the area effect spells and their interactions with Mail and Steel? -- [[Darloth]]

Darloth: another question, about area spells and MailAndSteel

2004-11-19T19:34:11Z

another question, about area spells and MailAndSteel

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 This page is for my Mail and Steel information.
-Or, you can go back to[[BrokenShade/MailAndSteel/ArmyInformation]]
+Or, you can go back to[[BrokenShade/ArmyInformation]]
 First, information on how Mail and Steel works.

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 This page is for my Mail and Steel information.
-Or, you can go back to [[BrokenShade/MailAndSteel/ArmyInformation]]
+Or, you can go back to[[BrokenShade/MailAndSteel/ArmyInformation]]
 First, information on how Mail and Steel works.

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 This page is for my Mail and Steel information.
-Or, you can go back to /ArmyInformation
+Or, you can go back to [[BrokenShade/MailAndSteel/ArmyInformation]]
 First, information on how Mail and Steel works.
-= How MnS Works =
+= How [[MnS]] Works =
 ;<b>HTH Attack Modifier</b>:If the troops can attack hth, the army can make hth attacks. Adjust the leader's hth attacks as follows
 ::+ Magnitude Difference (min -3, max +3) successes
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 ===== Comments =====
 Note that the wording (e.g. for Drill) is mine, but the effects are as per cannon. ^_^
--- BrokenShade
+-- [[BrokenShade]]
 Can a unit that has hesitated still parry an attack? - [[Malikai]]
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 Has anyone worked out if might and magnitude apply to solo units? I presume might does, but magnitude is iffy... According to the rules, a single celestial exalt has magnitude above zero, perhaps as high as 2. Since this may make a big difference in small engagements (and allow them to kill armies much better) I'd love to hear what people think. <br> -- [[Darloth]]
-While I'm thinking about Mail and Steel, something came to mind. Area effects don't actually get any bonus against troop formations that I can find... admittedly, you can't use single-target effects to damage legions at all... but the fact that a single guy with a sword often has more of an effect on a legion than someone casting DOoB (which seems to be designed to impede armies, based on the size and relatively low damage of the effect) is a bit weird. Artillery tend to have things made up by special rules for them, but what are people's thoughts on the area effect spells and their interactions with Mail and Steel? <br> -- [[Darloth]]
+:The way I understand the rules is that solo units, regardless of how strong they are, are always Magnitude 0, because it makes mention that special characters, i.e. solo units, don't add the unit's Magnitude bonus or traits, and I'd assume that this extends to themselves not having a Magnitude bonus (however, I may be wrong, as I myself can think of counter-arguments). As for Might, however, I would definitely say that solo units have a Might modifier, because a solo unit consisting of an Essence 6 Solar in a warstrider carrying around a recovered First Age relic is a must more powerful addition to the team than a single farmer with a pitchfork (again, I know that no one in their right mind would make a solo unit of a farmer with a pitchfork, but I deliberately chose extreme examples). Even without a Magnitude score, a single Celestial Exalt <i>does</i> make a world of difference, but, as Magnitude seems to act as a series of health bars, I'd say no, solo units don't have Magnitude. -- [[DarkPhoenix]]<i>, who needs to learn these rules as he'll soon be leading an army into battle.</i>

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 This page is for my Mail and Steel information.
-Or, you can go back to /ArmyInformation
+Or, you can go back to [[/ArmyInformation]]
 First, information on how Mail and Steel works.
-= How MnS Works =
+= How [[MnS]] Works =
 ;<b>HTH Attack Modifier</b>:If the troops can attack hth, the army can make hth attacks. Adjust the leader's hth attacks as follows
 ::+ Magnitude Difference (min -3, max +3) successes
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 ===== Comments =====
 Note that the wording (e.g. for Drill) is mine, but the effects are as per cannon. ^_^
--- BrokenShade
+-- [[BrokenShade]]
 Can a unit that has hesitated still parry an attack? - [[Malikai]]
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 :The way I understand the rules is that solo units, regardless of how strong they are, are always Magnitude 0, because it makes mention that special characters, i.e. solo units, don't add the unit's Magnitude bonus or traits, and I'd assume that this extends to themselves not having a Magnitude bonus (however, I may be wrong, as I myself can think of counter-arguments). As for Might, however, I would definitely say that solo units have a Might modifier, because a solo unit consisting of an Essence 6 Solar in a warstrider carrying around a recovered First Age relic is a must more powerful addition to the team than a single farmer with a pitchfork (again, I know that no one in their right mind would make a solo unit of a farmer with a pitchfork, but I deliberately chose extreme examples). Even without a Magnitude score, a single Celestial Exalt <i>does</i> make a world of difference, but, as Magnitude seems to act as a series of health bars, I'd say no, solo units don't have Magnitude. -- [[DarkPhoenix]]<i>, who needs to learn these rules as he'll soon be leading an army into battle.</i>
-While I'm thinking about Mail and Steel, something came to mind. Area effects don't actually get any bonus against troop formations that I can find... admittedly, you can't use single-target effects to damage legions at all... but the fact that a single guy with a sword often has more of an effect on a legion than someone casting DOoB (which seems to be designed to impede armies, based on the size and relatively low damage of the effect) is a bit weird. Artillery tend to have things made up by special rules for them, but what are people's thoughts on the area effect spells and their interactions with Mail and Steel? <br> -- [[Darloth]]
+While I'm thinking about Mail and Steel, something came to mind. Area effects don't actually get any bonus against troop formations that I can find... admittedly, you can't use single-target effects to damage legions at all... but the fact that a single guy with a sword often has more of an effect on a legion than someone casting [[DOoB]] (which seems to be designed to impede armies, based on the size and relatively low damage of the effect) is a bit weird. Artillery tend to have things made up by special rules for them, but what are people's thoughts on the area effect spells and their interactions with Mail and Steel? <br> -- [[Darloth]]

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 This page is for my Mail and Steel information.
-Or, you can go back to [[/ArmyInformation]]
+Or, you can go back to /ArmyInformation
 First, information on how Mail and Steel works.
-= How [[MnS]] Works =
+= How MnS Works =
 ;<b>HTH Attack Modifier</b>:If the troops can attack hth, the army can make hth attacks. Adjust the leader's hth attacks as follows
 ::+ Magnitude Difference (min -3, max +3) successes
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 ===== Comments =====
 Note that the wording (e.g. for Drill) is mine, but the effects are as per cannon. ^_^
--- [[BrokenShade]]
+-- BrokenShade
 Can a unit that has hesitated still parry an attack? - [[Malikai]]
@@ Line 91: / Line 91: @@
 Has anyone worked out if might and magnitude apply to solo units? I presume might does, but magnitude is iffy... According to the rules, a single celestial exalt has magnitude above zero, perhaps as high as 2. Since this may make a big difference in small engagements (and allow them to kill armies much better) I'd love to hear what people think. <br> -- [[Darloth]]
-:The way I understand the rules is that solo units, regardless of how strong they are, are always Magnitude 0, because it makes mention that special characters, i.e. solo units, don't add the unit's Magnitude bonus or traits, and I'd assume that this extends to themselves not having a Magnitude bonus (however, I may be wrong, as I myself can think of counter-arguments). As for Might, however, I would definitely say that solo units have a Might modifier, because a solo unit consisting of an Essence 6 Solar in a warstrider carrying around a recovered First Age relic is a must more powerful addition to the team than a single farmer with a pitchfork (again, I know that no one in their right mind would make a solo unit of a farmer with a pitchfork, but I deliberately chose extreme examples). Even without a Magnitude score, a single Celestial Exalt <i>does</i> make a world of difference, but, as Magnitude seems to act as a series of health bars, I'd say no, solo units don't have Magnitude. -- [[DarkPhoenix]]<i>, who needs to learn these rules as he'll soon be leading an army into battle.</i>
+While I'm thinking about Mail and Steel, something came to mind. Area effects don't actually get any bonus against troop formations that I can find... admittedly, you can't use single-target effects to damage legions at all... but the fact that a single guy with a sword often has more of an effect on a legion than someone casting DOoB (which seems to be designed to impede armies, based on the size and relatively low damage of the effect) is a bit weird. Artillery tend to have things made up by special rules for them, but what are people's thoughts on the area effect spells and their interactions with Mail and Steel? <br> -- [[Darloth]]

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