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−	At least, that's [[Shataina]]'s argument. Do you disagree that high Appearance has more drawbacks than other high Attributes? That is, can it screw you more to have high Appearance than it can screw you to have, say, high Strength?
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−	~~Help us settle the question by trying to think of drawbacks for various Attributes and adding them to our list.~~
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−	* back to [[~~Attributes]].~~
−	* over to [[Attributes/~~Appearance\|Appearance houserules]].~~
−	* back to CommunalProjects.
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−	~~===~~ Drawbacks ~~for High Appearance ===~~
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−	* People are jealous. They'll hate you if they're jealous enough. If your Appearance is high enough, even gods are jealous, and jealous gods are particularly bad. Reference: Psyche. ~ [[Shataina]]
−	* Inappropriate partners lust after you. If they already have a partner, the partner hates you for it. If you already have a partner, they probably won't like it either. References: Ramayana; Helen of Troy. ~ [[Shataina]]
−	* You're more recognizable (this isn't always a drawback, but it's particularly bad for Celestials). ~ [[Shataina]]
−	* Rumours spread about you without any action on your part (this isn't always a drawback, but it's particularly bad for Celestials). ~ [[Shataina]]
−	* With high enough Appearance, you yourself might be mistaken for a god. This isn't always a bad thing, but it can be; also, keep in mind that the Fair Folk -- widely-known eaters of souls -- are most famous for being beautiful. Reference: the core book's description of Appearance 5 states that "rural people mistake you for an incarnate deity". ~ [[Shataina]]
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−	~~=== Drawbacks for High Strength ===~~
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−	* People are jealous. They'll hate you if they're jealous enough. If your Strength is high enough, even Dynasts are jealous, and jealous Dynasts are particularly bad. You'll get beaten up by Charm wielders who grew up being picked on as intellectuals just because they can.
−	* Explotative overlords want to use you as force. If they already have servants, the other servants are jealous of you for your power. If you already have a liege, he probably won't appriciate other job offers coming in.
−	* Not everyone will recognize "The guy who can lift a wagon wheel," but everyone will recognize "The guy who can lift a wagon, filled with hay and with a horse standing on top." While you can veil your face, it's much harder to hide how strong you are.
−	* Rumours spread about you just because of how strong you are.
−	* With high enough Strength, you yourself might be mistaken for a god. This isn't always a bad thing, but it can be; also, keep in mind that barbarians - widely-known destroyers of civilization - are most famous for being strong.
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−	All of the above from [[Arafelis]], who actually finds the discussion rather silly, and thinks that (as demonstrated) most of the 'drawbacks' of having a high Appearance hold essentially true for any attribute. People always recognize strengths and feel jealousy or the desire to control them. Being strong, tough, fast, beautiful, loveable, convincing, genius, quick of thought, or extremely perceptive all inspire the same mixture of admiration, respect, jealousy and lust; "You have something I want."
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−	~~=== Drawbacks for High Dexterity ===~~
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−	~~None yet.~~
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−	~~=== Drawbacks for High Stamina ===~~
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−	~~None yet.~~
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−	~~=== Drawbacks for High Charisma ===~~
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−	~~None yet.~~
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−	~~=== Drawbacks for High Manipulation ===~~
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−	~~None yet.~~
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−	~~=== Drawbacks for High Perception ===~~
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−	~~None yet.~~
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−	~~=== Drawbacks for High Intelligence ===~~
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−	~~None yet.~~
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−	~~=== Drawbacks for High Wits ===~~
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−	~~None yet.~~
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−	~~=== Comments ===~~
−	~~Not to quibble with the Queen of Best Practices. But isn't this a discussion?~~

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−	~~#REDIRECT Discussions~~[[/~~IsHighAppearanceADrawback~~]]	+	== Appearance Has More Drawbacks ==
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		+	At least, that's [[Shataina]]'s argument. Do you disagree that high Appearance has more drawbacks than other high Attributes? That is, can it screw you more to have high Appearance than it can screw you to have, say, high Strength?
		+
		+	Help us settle the question by trying to think of drawbacks for various Attributes and adding them to our list.
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		+	* back to [[Attributes]].
		+	* over to [[Attributes/Appearance\|Appearance houserules]].
		+	* back to CommunalProjects.
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		+	=== Drawbacks for High Appearance ===
		+
		+	* People are jealous. They'll hate you if they're jealous enough. If your Appearance is high enough, even gods are jealous, and jealous gods are particularly bad. Reference: Psyche. ~ [[Shataina]]
		+	* Inappropriate partners lust after you. If they already have a partner, the partner hates you for it. If you already have a partner, they probably won't like it either. References: Ramayana; Helen of Troy. ~ [[Shataina]]
		+	* You're more recognizable (this isn't always a drawback, but it's particularly bad for Celestials). ~ [[Shataina]]
		+	* Rumours spread about you without any action on your part (this isn't always a drawback, but it's particularly bad for Celestials). ~ [[Shataina]]
		+	* With high enough Appearance, you yourself might be mistaken for a god. This isn't always a bad thing, but it can be; also, keep in mind that the Fair Folk -- widely-known eaters of souls -- are most famous for being beautiful. Reference: the core book's description of Appearance 5 states that "rural people mistake you for an incarnate deity". ~ [[Shataina]]
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		+	=== Drawbacks for High Strength ===
		+
		+	* People are jealous. They'll hate you if they're jealous enough. If your Strength is high enough, even Dynasts are jealous, and jealous Dynasts are particularly bad. You'll get beaten up by Charm wielders who grew up being picked on as intellectuals just because they can.
		+	* Explotative overlords want to use you as force. If they already have servants, the other servants are jealous of you for your power. If you already have a liege, he probably won't appriciate other job offers coming in.
		+	* Not everyone will recognize "The guy who can lift a wagon wheel," but everyone will recognize "The guy who can lift a wagon, filled with hay and with a horse standing on top." While you can veil your face, it's much harder to hide how strong you are.
		+	* Rumours spread about you just because of how strong you are.
		+	* With high enough Strength, you yourself might be mistaken for a god. This isn't always a bad thing, but it can be; also, keep in mind that barbarians - widely-known destroyers of civilization - are most famous for being strong.
		+
		+	All of the above from [[Arafelis]], who actually finds the discussion rather silly, and thinks that (as demonstrated) most of the 'drawbacks' of having a high Appearance hold essentially true for any attribute. People always recognize strengths and feel jealousy or the desire to control them. Being strong, tough, fast, beautiful, loveable, convincing, genius, quick of thought, or extremely perceptive all inspire the same mixture of admiration, respect, jealousy and lust; "You have something I want."
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		+	=== Drawbacks for High Dexterity ===
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		+	None yet.
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		+	=== Drawbacks for High Stamina ===
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		+	None yet.
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		+	=== Drawbacks for High Charisma ===
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		+	None yet.
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		+	=== Drawbacks for High Manipulation ===
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		+	None yet.
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		+	=== Drawbacks for High Perception ===
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		+	None yet.
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		+	=== Drawbacks for High Intelligence ===
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		+	None yet.
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		+	=== Drawbacks for High Wits ===
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		+	None yet.
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		+	=== Comments ===
		+	Not to quibble with the Queen of Best Practices. But isn't this a discussion?

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