AcceptableInfluenceMethodology - Revision history

DeathBySurfeit: /* Seduction */ now with examples!

2016-05-11T21:08:25Z

‎Seduction: now with examples!

DeathBySurfeit: formalised Beliefs as an Intimacy type, tweaked seduction, added limit to instilling.

2016-05-11T17:05:43Z

formalised Beliefs as an Intimacy type, tweaked seduction, added limit to instilling.

DeathBySurfeit: /* Seduction / added what seducing someone does*. I mean, besides the obvious.

2016-05-11T05:41:30Z

‎Seduction: added what seducing someone *does*. I mean, besides the obvious.

DeathBySurfeit: /* Occult */ clarification

2016-05-10T15:27:59Z

‎Occult: clarification

DeathBySurfeit: /* Actions And Abilities */ added 'convince'

2016-05-10T15:23:47Z

‎Actions And Abilities: added 'convince'

DeathBySurfeit: /* Convincing */ formattan

2016-05-10T15:22:45Z

‎Convincing: formattan

DeathBySurfeit: Separated out beliefs and convincing; moved to Presence.

2016-05-10T15:22:00Z

Separated out beliefs and convincing; moved to Presence.

DeathBySurfeit: /* Occult */ clarified Charm applicability

2016-05-10T14:09:35Z

‎Occult: clarified Charm applicability

DeathBySurfeit: /* Actions And Abilities */ removing defunct idea

2016-05-10T14:07:55Z

‎Actions And Abilities: removing defunct idea

DeathBySurfeit: /* Case */ formattan

2016-05-10T14:06:34Z

‎Case: formattan

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 ===Seduction===
-'''Seduction''' attempts require an applicable Intimacy – usually a positive Tie toward the Exalt, or an Emotion of lust or awe - to be handled as a '''persuade''' attempt. Alternatively they can be handled as a '''bargain''' attempt, for more professional arrangements. Sleeping with someone is usually considered an "Inconvenient" task. If it requires a person to break a mundane vow, it becomes a "Serious" task. If doing so requires them to give up their lifestyle completely, it becomes "Life-Changing".
+'''Seduction''' attempts require an applicable Intimacy – usually a positive Tie toward the Exalt, or an Emotion of lust or awe - to be handled as a '''persuade''' attempt. Alternatively they can be handled as a '''bargain''' attempt, for more professional arrangements.
 After a successful '''seduction''' attempt, each person involved may make a single '''influence''' attempt against their partner(s) that cannot be resisted by spending Willpower, or with a Decision Point. Resolve is applicable as normal.

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 Emotions may affect a character's Guile in the same way that Intimacies affect Resolve. If a character's Emotion '''supports''' their goal for the interaction, mirrors their Tie toward the character reading them, or mirrors the nature of an Intimacy used to bolster their Resolve, the difficulty of the read intentions action is '''reduced'''. If the Emotion '''opposes''' these, the difficulty of the read intentions action is '''increased'''.
 ==Presence==
-===Convincing===
+===Beliefs===
-You may use Presence to '''convince''' someone of a fact or belief. The resultant belief becomes a Minor Principle, which behaves normally. Further '''convince''' attempts can be used to increase or reduce the strength of a person's beliefs.
+You may use Presence to '''convince''' someone of a fact or belief. The resultant Belief becomes a Minor Intimacy (neither Principle nor Tie), which behaves normally. Further '''convince''' attempts can be used to increase or reduce the strength of a person's Beliefs.
 ===Seduction===
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 '''Seduction''' attempts require an applicable Intimacy – usually a positive Tie toward the Exalt, or an Emotion of lust or awe - to be handled as a '''persuade''' attempt. Alternatively they can be handled as a '''bargain''' attempt, for more professional arrangements. Sleeping with someone is usually considered an "Inconvenient" task. If it requires a person to break a mundane vow, it becomes a "Serious" task. If doing so requires them to give up their lifestyle completely, it becomes "Life-Changing".
-After a successful '''seduction''' attempt, the Exalt may make a single '''influence''' attempt against their partner(s) that cannot be resisted by spending Willpower, or with a Decision Point. Resolve is applicable as normal.
+After a successful '''seduction''' attempt, each person involved may make a single '''influence''' attempt against their partner(s) that cannot be resisted by spending Willpower, or with a Decision Point. Resolve is applicable as normal.
 ==Socialise==

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	'''Seduction''' attempts require an applicable Intimacy – usually a positive Tie toward the Exalt, or an Emotion of lust or awe - to be handled as a '''persuade''' attempt. Alternatively they can be handled as a '''bargain''' attempt, for more professional arrangements. Sleeping with someone is usually considered an "Inconvenient" task. If it requires a person to break a mundane vow, it becomes a "Serious" task. If doing so requires them to give up their lifestyle completely, it becomes "Life-Changing".		'''Seduction''' attempts require an applicable Intimacy – usually a positive Tie toward the Exalt, or an Emotion of lust or awe - to be handled as a '''persuade''' attempt. Alternatively they can be handled as a '''bargain''' attempt, for more professional arrangements. Sleeping with someone is usually considered an "Inconvenient" task. If it requires a person to break a mundane vow, it becomes a "Serious" task. If doing so requires them to give up their lifestyle completely, it becomes "Life-Changing".
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		+	After a successful '''seduction''' attempt, the Exalt may make a single '''influence''' attempt against their partner(s) that cannot be resisted by spending Willpower, or with a Decision Point. Resolve is applicable as normal.

	==Socialise==		==Socialise==

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 ==Occult==
-Some Occult Charms allow you to make a '''warding''' attempt. This is a Charisma+Occult roll that does not require an Intimacy to be evoked, and cannot be resisted by spending Willpower unless the spirit has a higher Essence than the Solar. If successful, it has effects dependent on the Charm that triggered it. '''Warding''' rolls replace the roll to bind a demon summoned by sorcery.
+Some Occult Charms allow you to make a '''warding''' attempt. This is a Charisma+Occult roll that does not require an Intimacy to be evoked, and cannot be resisted by spending Willpower unless the spirit has a higher Essence than the Solar. If successful, it has effects dependent on the Charm that triggered it. '''Warding''' attempts replace the roll to bind a demon summoned by sorcery.
-Non-Excellency Charms that support '''influence''' or '''persuade''' attempts can be used to enhance a '''warding''' attempt.
+Non-Excellency Charms that support '''persuade''' attempts can be used to enhance a '''warding''' attempt.
 ==Performance==

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 * '''Bureaucracy''' is used for '''bargain''' attempts.
-* '''Investigation''' is used for '''profile''' actions (not a form of influence).
+* '''Investigation''' is used for '''profile''' attempts (not a form of influence).
 * '''Linguistics''' is used for '''written influence''' attempts.
 * '''Occult''' is used for '''warding''' attempts.
 * '''Performance''' is used for '''inspire''' and '''instil''' attempts.
-* '''Presence''' is used for '''persuade''' and '''threaten''' attempts.
+* '''Presence''' is used for '''convince''', '''persuade''', and '''threaten''' attempts.
-* '''Socialise''' is used for '''read intentions''' actions (not a form of influence), and '''organisational influence''' attempts (see [[PrincipledOrganisationMethodology|Principled Organisation Methodology]]).
+* '''Socialise''' is used for '''read ''' (not a form of influence), and '''organisational influence''' attempts (see [[PrincipledOrganisationMethodology|Principled Organisation Methodology]]).
 If a Charm does not state the specific kind of '''influence''' it must be used on, it can be freely used on influence actions from other Abilities, and combo’d with their Charms. This does not apply to '''written influence''' attempts, which have their own Charms.

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	If a Charm does not state the specific kind of '''influence''' it must be used on, it can be freely used on influence actions from other Abilities, and combo’d with their Charms. This does not apply to '''written influence''' attempts, which have their own Charms.		If a Charm does not state the specific kind of '''influence''' it must be used on, it can be freely used on influence actions from other Abilities, and combo’d with their Charms. This does not apply to '''written influence''' attempts, which have their own Charms.
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−	~~Charms that enhance '''persuade''' attempts can also be used on '''bargain''', '''seduction''', '''threaten''' and '''warding''' attempts.~~

	==Investigation==		==Investigation==

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 A '''case''' action is done on the location of a battle, crime, or other significant event to discover more about what happened, and who was involved. It works as described in the second half of the ‘case scene’ action in EX3, except that it produces one actionable clue (about the event or its participants) if successful, and one further clue for each threshold success.
-Threshold successes also create a banked pool. If you '''case''' multiple locations, keep only the best result in your pool. These may be added as bonus dice to a single persuade attempt (including bargain and threaten) to convince someone of a person’s culpability, or get them to confess to such - provided it is stunted appropriately. These work whether or not the person is actually guilty of the charges laid at their feet.
+Threshold successes also create a banked pool. If you '''case''' multiple locations, keep only the best result in your pool. These may be added as bonus dice to a single '''persuade''' attempt (including '''bargain''' and '''threaten''') to convince someone of a person’s culpability, or get them to confess to such - provided it is stunted appropriately. These work whether or not the person is actually guilty of the charges laid at their feet.
 '''Case''' actions cannot be reattempted until after you have used the banked successes.