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 ===== Comments? =====
-Are you accepting comments on these? -- GreenLantern
+Are you accepting comments on these? -- [[GreenLantern]]
-: Yup! Mind, reread them before commenting, I just changed a couple things who were too much. Like the horrible multiplier in Obsidian Apotheosis.... also, they are made for a specific player of mine, [[Selina]], for a specific game, so I might not change things as readily as usual. With that said... comment away ^^ -- GoldenCat
+: Yup! Mind, reread them before commenting, I just changed a couple things who were too much. Like the horrible multiplier in Obsidian Apotheosis.... also, they are made for a specific player of mine, [[Selina]], for a specific game, so I might not change things as readily as usual. With that said... comment away ^^ -- [[GoldenCat]]
 Well, I love the idea, and frankly wish Solars had something equivalent. Why I have yet to see a good Solar Bolt, I don't know. Back to you, then. My primary concern has to do with 'free awesome'. As a player, I love it. As a second-circle demon of crunch, it scares me. I see a number of charms combined, that give you something along the lines of (Essence+Lore) base damage, with an accuracy bonus of (2*Essence), draining Compassion motes per hit. The minimum cost is 1m to launch such a bolt, and you can do it for free (Without even a simple-scene-long activation at the beginning of a fight) with a rate of (Lore). If you want more, you get more, because if you choose not to split your pool that turn, you can add (Lore-1)*2 to the damage of the single shot you make, and since your Lore is 5 (it ''is'' 5, right?), that's adding another 8 damage. Thus, you're looking at a weapon with the following choices of stats:
 :Accuracy: (Essence*2) (Roughly +8), Damage: Essence+Lore+8L (roughly 17L), Range: Essence*20 yards (roughly 80 yards), Rate 1  ''Notes: Peircing, drains (Compassion) motes from target per hit''
 :Accuracy: (Essence*2) (Roughly +8), Damage: Essence+Lore (roughly 9L), Range: Essence*20 yards (roughly 80 yards), Rate 5 ''Notes: Peircing, drains (Compassion) motes from target per hit''
-I'll admit it's pretty cool. I personally love the idea of a character that doesn't need a bow, or ammo, or anything, just blasting away. At the same time, for the ~5 charms you're putting in, you're walking around with a fairly high-damage and accurate weapon that takes no essence to use, ever. It's incredible for long fights, killing armies, et cetera. The only real cost is that you need to waste your charm action, or use a combo. Unless, of course, you spend two additional charms in, and make Crypt  Bolt your anima-charm. Since all you're doing is enhancing Crypt Bolt (with it's 2-dot requirements) you only need (4,4) to make it an anima ability. Again, a cool charm. Except you're now ''Queen Death-Cannon, Destroyer of Hopes''. Sure, it's a large charm commitment. At the same time, The total lack of needing to use Essence scares me. I think I'm over-reacting, as really, a good artifact bow can do most of this, as can the awesome Dragon-Blooded Charms I saw the other day.  Ahh hell - I'll just say this is wicked, and be careful. If anything, I'd say watch that 17L damage if you only take one shot a round, and otherwise, go for it. With 7 charms devoted to something, it's allowed to be cool as hell. -- GreenLantern, '' converting himself''.
+I'll admit it's pretty cool. I personally love the idea of a character that doesn't need a bow, or ammo, or anything, just blasting away. At the same time, for the ~5 charms you're putting in, you're walking around with a fairly high-damage and accurate weapon that takes no essence to use, ever. It's incredible for long fights, killing armies, et cetera. The only real cost is that you need to waste your charm action, or use a combo. Unless, of course, you spend two additional charms in, and make Crypt  Bolt your anima-charm. Since all you're doing is enhancing Crypt Bolt (with it's 2-dot requirements) you only need (4,4) to make it an anima ability. Again, a cool charm. Except you're now ''Queen Death-Cannon, Destroyer of Hopes''. Sure, it's a large charm commitment. At the same time, The total lack of needing to use Essence scares me. I think I'm over-reacting, as really, a good artifact bow can do most of this, as can the awesome Dragon-Blooded Charms I saw the other day.  Ahh hell - I'll just say this is wicked, and be careful. If anything, I'd say watch that 17L damage if you only take one shot a round, and otherwise, go for it. With 7 charms devoted to something, it's allowed to be cool as hell. -- [[GreenLantern]], '' converting himself''.
 And one more thing. You're going to write a set of these for Solars now, right? ''*pokes*'' -- GL
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 ''gasp'' The Burning Epitaph Blade is ''scandalously'' excellent. - [[willows]]
-I have to agree with [[willows]] here! Question, since I plan to suggest this charm to my ST for use with antagonists: when used to permanently sever a person's love, can that love ever re-develop? Perhaps by freeing the soul from the pearl which allowed the severing, or by slaying the Abyssal who severed it? - IanPrice
+I have to agree with [[willows]] here! Question, since I plan to suggest this charm to my ST for use with antagonists: when used to permanently sever a person's love, can that love ever re-develop? Perhaps by freeing the soul from the pearl which allowed the severing, or by slaying the Abyssal who severed it? - [[IanPrice]]
-:Thanks ^_^ And um. That was added because Shun the Smiling Lady does that(at lower ess, jumping through fewer hops, does more, without the HORRIBLE exp cost, etc) and I kinda had in mind that a villain, as a default, wouldn't have the experience to pay. External means would be going to Mathesine of the Lost, I'd think(not to Heaven, being an Abyssal Charm it'd probably commit any records of the love on the Bureau of Serenity to the void)... but the rose turning red thing(and thus, 'absorving'/'drinking' the love) really *is* a caveat for destroying the pearl bringing the love back, isn't it? So pretty much - save the soul, save the love! (I'd also allow one to bring back with an end-of-sailor-moon +3 social stunt, but I'm a sap) ~ GoldenCat
+:Thanks ^_^ And um. That was added because Shun the Smiling Lady does that(at lower ess, jumping through fewer hops, does more, without the HORRIBLE exp cost, etc) and I kinda had in mind that a villain, as a default, wouldn't have the experience to pay. External means would be going to Mathesine of the Lost, I'd think(not to Heaven, being an Abyssal Charm it'd probably commit any records of the love on the Bureau of Serenity to the void)... but the rose turning red thing(and thus, 'absorving'/'drinking' the love) really *is* a caveat for destroying the pearl bringing the love back, isn't it? So pretty much - save the soul, save the love! (I'd also allow one to bring back with an end-of-sailor-moon +3 social stunt, but I'm a sap) ~ [[GoldenCat]]
-::I probably would too... but ONLY if the character stood for love, and also for justice! - IanPrice
+::I probably would too... but ONLY if the character stood for love, and also for justice! - [[IanPrice]]

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 ===== Comments? =====
-Are you accepting comments on these? -- GreenLantern
+Are you accepting comments on these? -- [[GreenLantern]]
-: Yup! Mind, reread them before commenting, I just changed a couple things who were too much. Like the horrible multiplier in Obsidian Apotheosis.... also, they are made for a specific player of mine, [[Selina]], for a specific game, so I might not change things as readily as usual. With that said... comment away ^^ -- GoldenCat
+: Yup! Mind, reread them before commenting, I just changed a couple things who were too much. Like the horrible multiplier in Obsidian Apotheosis.... also, they are made for a specific player of mine, [[Selina]], for a specific game, so I might not change things as readily as usual. With that said... comment away ^^ -- [[GoldenCat]]
 Well, I love the idea, and frankly wish Solars had something equivalent. Why I have yet to see a good Solar Bolt, I don't know. Back to you, then. My primary concern has to do with 'free awesome'. As a player, I love it. As a second-circle demon of crunch, it scares me. I see a number of charms combined, that give you something along the lines of (Essence+Lore) base damage, with an accuracy bonus of (2*Essence), draining Compassion motes per hit. The minimum cost is 1m to launch such a bolt, and you can do it for free (Without even a simple-scene-long activation at the beginning of a fight) with a rate of (Lore). If you want more, you get more, because if you choose not to split your pool that turn, you can add (Lore-1)*2 to the damage of the single shot you make, and since your Lore is 5 (it ''is'' 5, right?), that's adding another 8 damage. Thus, you're looking at a weapon with the following choices of stats:
 :Accuracy: (Essence*2) (Roughly +8), Damage: Essence+Lore+8L (roughly 17L), Range: Essence*20 yards (roughly 80 yards), Rate 1  ''Notes: Peircing, drains (Compassion) motes from target per hit''
 :Accuracy: (Essence*2) (Roughly +8), Damage: Essence+Lore (roughly 9L), Range: Essence*20 yards (roughly 80 yards), Rate 5 ''Notes: Peircing, drains (Compassion) motes from target per hit''
-I'll admit it's pretty cool. I personally love the idea of a character that doesn't need a bow, or ammo, or anything, just blasting away. At the same time, for the ~5 charms you're putting in, you're walking around with a fairly high-damage and accurate weapon that takes no essence to use, ever. It's incredible for long fights, killing armies, et cetera. The only real cost is that you need to waste your charm action, or use a combo. Unless, of course, you spend two additional charms in, and make Crypt  Bolt your anima-charm. Since all you're doing is enhancing Crypt Bolt (with it's 2-dot requirements) you only need (4,4) to make it an anima ability. Again, a cool charm. Except you're now ''Queen Death-Cannon, Destroyer of Hopes''. Sure, it's a large charm commitment. At the same time, The total lack of needing to use Essence scares me. I think I'm over-reacting, as really, a good artifact bow can do most of this, as can the awesome Dragon-Blooded Charms I saw the other day.  Ahh hell - I'll just say this is wicked, and be careful. If anything, I'd say watch that 17L damage if you only take one shot a round, and otherwise, go for it. With 7 charms devoted to something, it's allowed to be cool as hell. -- GreenLantern, '' converting himself''.
+I'll admit it's pretty cool. I personally love the idea of a character that doesn't need a bow, or ammo, or anything, just blasting away. At the same time, for the ~5 charms you're putting in, you're walking around with a fairly high-damage and accurate weapon that takes no essence to use, ever. It's incredible for long fights, killing armies, et cetera. The only real cost is that you need to waste your charm action, or use a combo. Unless, of course, you spend two additional charms in, and make Crypt  Bolt your anima-charm. Since all you're doing is enhancing Crypt Bolt (with it's 2-dot requirements) you only need (4,4) to make it an anima ability. Again, a cool charm. Except you're now ''Queen Death-Cannon, Destroyer of Hopes''. Sure, it's a large charm commitment. At the same time, The total lack of needing to use Essence scares me. I think I'm over-reacting, as really, a good artifact bow can do most of this, as can the awesome Dragon-Blooded Charms I saw the other day.  Ahh hell - I'll just say this is wicked, and be careful. If anything, I'd say watch that 17L damage if you only take one shot a round, and otherwise, go for it. With 7 charms devoted to something, it's allowed to be cool as hell. -- [[GreenLantern]], '' converting himself''.
 And one more thing. You're going to write a set of these for Solars now, right? ''*pokes*'' -- GL
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 ''gasp'' The Burning Epitaph Blade is ''scandalously'' excellent. - [[willows]]
-I have to agree with [[willows]] here! Question, since I plan to suggest this charm to my ST for use with antagonists: when used to permanently sever a person's love, can that love ever re-develop? Perhaps by freeing the soul from the pearl which allowed the severing, or by slaying the Abyssal who severed it? - IanPrice
+I have to agree with [[willows]] here! Question, since I plan to suggest this charm to my ST for use with antagonists: when used to permanently sever a person's love, can that love ever re-develop? Perhaps by freeing the soul from the pearl which allowed the severing, or by slaying the Abyssal who severed it? - [[IanPrice]]
-:Thanks ^_^ And um. That was added because Shun the Smiling Lady does that(at lower ess, jumping through fewer hops, does more, without the HORRIBLE exp cost, etc) and I kinda had in mind that a villain, as a default, wouldn't have the experience to pay. External means would be going to Mathesine of the Lost, I'd think(not to Heaven, being an Abyssal Charm it'd probably commit any records of the love on the Bureau of Serenity to the void)... but the rose turning red thing(and thus, 'absorving'/'drinking' the love) really *is* a caveat for destroying the pearl bringing the love back, isn't it? So pretty much - save the soul, save the love! (I'd also allow one to bring back with an end-of-sailor-moon +3 social stunt, but I'm a sap) ~ GoldenCat
+:Thanks ^_^ And um. That was added because Shun the Smiling Lady does that(at lower ess, jumping through fewer hops, does more, without the HORRIBLE exp cost, etc) and I kinda had in mind that a villain, as a default, wouldn't have the experience to pay. External means would be going to Mathesine of the Lost, I'd think(not to Heaven, being an Abyssal Charm it'd probably commit any records of the love on the Bureau of Serenity to the void)... but the rose turning red thing(and thus, 'absorving'/'drinking' the love) really *is* a caveat for destroying the pearl bringing the love back, isn't it? So pretty much - save the soul, save the love! (I'd also allow one to bring back with an end-of-sailor-moon +3 social stunt, but I'm a sap) ~ [[GoldenCat]]
-::I probably would too... but ONLY if the character stood for love, and also for justice! - IanPrice
+::I probably would too... but ONLY if the character stood for love, and also for justice! - [[IanPrice]]
 GREAT CTHULHU SO MANY CHARMS!!! MY BRAIN BURNS!!! - [[Han'ya]] <i>is still working on that whole "attention span" thing</i>

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 '''Min. Essence:'''2<br>
 '''Prerequisite Charms:''' Forbidden Archeology Technique<br>
-Gathering the essence of entropy on the palm of her hand, the Abyssal touches his victim and bring out clouds of the void to her memory, making it hard to remember anything and everything from the world around her, enough to make even the greatest savant forget all about her mighty crafts! The Abyssal pays 1 mote for every 2 dice subtracted from the savant's Lore pool, for any and all uses of the Lore and Occult abilities. This Charm lasts as long as the Abyssal mantains the Essence committed to it. When the Essence is released, the savant may use his knowledge abilities again without a problem, but Mortals kept under the yoke of this Charm for a long time may not recover, at the Storyteller's discretion. The ability to work Thaumathurgy is lowered together with the Lore and Occult.
+Gathering the essence of entropy on the palm of her hand, the Abyssal touches his victim and bring out clouds of the void to her memory, making it hard to remember anything and everything from the world around her, enough to make even the greatest savant forget all about her mighty crafts! The Abyssal pays 1 mote for every 2 dice subtracted from the savant's pool for any and all uses of the Lore and Occult abilities. This Charm lasts as long as the Abyssal mantains the Essence committed to it. When the Essence is released, the savant may use his knowledge abilities again without a problem, but Mortals kept under the yoke of this Charm for a long time may not recover, at the Storyteller's discretion. The ability to work Thaumathurgy is lowered together with the Lore and Occult.
 '''Secrets on Ashes Method'''<br>

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 '''Min. Essence:'''2<br>
 '''Prerequisite Charms:''' Forbidden Archeology Technique<br>
-Gathering the essence of entropy on the palm of her hand, the Abyssal touches his victim and bring out clouds of the void to her memory, making it hard to remember anything and everything from the world around her, enough to make even the greatest savant forget all about her mighty crafts! The Abyssal pays 1 mote for every 2 dice subtracted from the savant's pool for any and all uses of the Lore and Occult abilities. This Charm lasts as long as the Abyssal mantains the Essence committed to it. When the Essence is released, the savant may use his knowledge abilities again without a problem, but Mortals kept under the yoke of this Charm for a long time may not recover, at the Storyteller's discretion. The ability to work Thaumathurgy is lowered together with the Lore and Occult.
+Gathering the essence of entropy on the palm of her hand, the Abyssal touches his victim and bring out clouds of the void to her memory, making it hard to remember anything and everything from the world around her, enough to make even the greatest savant forget all about her mighty crafts! The Abyssal pays 1 mote for every 2 dice subtracted from the savant's Lore pool, for any and all uses of the Lore and Occult abilities. This Charm lasts as long as the Abyssal mantains the Essence committed to it. When the Essence is released, the savant may use his knowledge abilities again without a problem, but Mortals kept under the yoke of this Charm for a long time may not recover, at the Storyteller's discretion. The ability to work Thaumathurgy is lowered together with the Lore and Occult.
 '''Secrets on Ashes Method'''<br>
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 ===== Comments? =====
-Are you accepting comments on these? -- [[GreenLantern]]
+Are you accepting comments on these? -- GreenLantern
-: Yup! Mind, reread them before commenting, I just changed a couple things who were too much. Like the horrible multiplier in Obsidian Apotheosis.... also, they are made for a specific player of mine, [[Selina]], for a specific game, so I might not change things as readily as usual. With that said... comment away ^^ -- [[GoldenCat]]
+: Yup! Mind, reread them before commenting, I just changed a couple things who were too much. Like the horrible multiplier in Obsidian Apotheosis.... also, they are made for a specific player of mine, [[Selina]], for a specific game, so I might not change things as readily as usual. With that said... comment away ^^ -- GoldenCat
 Well, I love the idea, and frankly wish Solars had something equivalent. Why I have yet to see a good Solar Bolt, I don't know. Back to you, then. My primary concern has to do with 'free awesome'. As a player, I love it. As a second-circle demon of crunch, it scares me. I see a number of charms combined, that give you something along the lines of (Essence+Lore) base damage, with an accuracy bonus of (2*Essence), draining Compassion motes per hit. The minimum cost is 1m to launch such a bolt, and you can do it for free (Without even a simple-scene-long activation at the beginning of a fight) with a rate of (Lore). If you want more, you get more, because if you choose not to split your pool that turn, you can add (Lore-1)*2 to the damage of the single shot you make, and since your Lore is 5 (it ''is'' 5, right?), that's adding another 8 damage. Thus, you're looking at a weapon with the following choices of stats:
 :Accuracy: (Essence*2) (Roughly +8), Damage: Essence+Lore+8L (roughly 17L), Range: Essence*20 yards (roughly 80 yards), Rate 1  ''Notes: Peircing, drains (Compassion) motes from target per hit''
 :Accuracy: (Essence*2) (Roughly +8), Damage: Essence+Lore (roughly 9L), Range: Essence*20 yards (roughly 80 yards), Rate 5 ''Notes: Peircing, drains (Compassion) motes from target per hit''
-I'll admit it's pretty cool. I personally love the idea of a character that doesn't need a bow, or ammo, or anything, just blasting away. At the same time, for the ~5 charms you're putting in, you're walking around with a fairly high-damage and accurate weapon that takes no essence to use, ever. It's incredible for long fights, killing armies, et cetera. The only real cost is that you need to waste your charm action, or use a combo. Unless, of course, you spend two additional charms in, and make Crypt  Bolt your anima-charm. Since all you're doing is enhancing Crypt Bolt (with it's 2-dot requirements) you only need (4,4) to make it an anima ability. Again, a cool charm. Except you're now ''Queen Death-Cannon, Destroyer of Hopes''. Sure, it's a large charm commitment. At the same time, The total lack of needing to use Essence scares me. I think I'm over-reacting, as really, a good artifact bow can do most of this, as can the awesome Dragon-Blooded Charms I saw the other day.  Ahh hell - I'll just say this is wicked, and be careful. If anything, I'd say watch that 17L damage if you only take one shot a round, and otherwise, go for it. With 7 charms devoted to something, it's allowed to be cool as hell. -- [[GreenLantern]], '' converting himself''.
+I'll admit it's pretty cool. I personally love the idea of a character that doesn't need a bow, or ammo, or anything, just blasting away. At the same time, for the ~5 charms you're putting in, you're walking around with a fairly high-damage and accurate weapon that takes no essence to use, ever. It's incredible for long fights, killing armies, et cetera. The only real cost is that you need to waste your charm action, or use a combo. Unless, of course, you spend two additional charms in, and make Crypt  Bolt your anima-charm. Since all you're doing is enhancing Crypt Bolt (with it's 2-dot requirements) you only need (4,4) to make it an anima ability. Again, a cool charm. Except you're now ''Queen Death-Cannon, Destroyer of Hopes''. Sure, it's a large charm commitment. At the same time, The total lack of needing to use Essence scares me. I think I'm over-reacting, as really, a good artifact bow can do most of this, as can the awesome Dragon-Blooded Charms I saw the other day.  Ahh hell - I'll just say this is wicked, and be careful. If anything, I'd say watch that 17L damage if you only take one shot a round, and otherwise, go for it. With 7 charms devoted to something, it's allowed to be cool as hell. -- GreenLantern, '' converting himself''.
 And one more thing. You're going to write a set of these for Solars now, right? ''*pokes*'' -- GL
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 ''gasp'' The Burning Epitaph Blade is ''scandalously'' excellent. - [[willows]]
-I have to agree with [[willows]] here! Question, since I plan to suggest this charm to my ST for use with antagonists: when used to permanently sever a person's love, can that love ever re-develop? Perhaps by freeing the soul from the pearl which allowed the severing, or by slaying the Abyssal who severed it? - [[IanPrice]]
+I have to agree with [[willows]] here! Question, since I plan to suggest this charm to my ST for use with antagonists: when used to permanently sever a person's love, can that love ever re-develop? Perhaps by freeing the soul from the pearl which allowed the severing, or by slaying the Abyssal who severed it? - IanPrice
-::I probably would too... but ONLY if the character stood for love, and also for justice! - [[IanPrice]]
+:Thanks ^_^ And um. That was added because Shun the Smiling Lady does that(at lower ess, jumping through fewer hops, does more, without the HORRIBLE exp cost, etc) and I kinda had in mind that a villain, as a default, wouldn't have the experience to pay. External means would be going to Mathesine of the Lost, I'd think(not to Heaven, being an Abyssal Charm it'd probably commit any records of the love on the Bureau of Serenity to the void)... but the rose turning red thing(and thus, 'absorving'/'drinking' the love) really *is* a caveat for destroying the pearl bringing the love back, isn't it? So pretty much - save the soul, save the love! (I'd also allow one to bring back with an end-of-sailor-moon +3 social stunt, but I'm a sap) ~ GoldenCat
-GREAT CTHULHU SO MANY CHARMS!!! MY BRAIN BURNS!!! - [[Han'ya]] <i>is still working on that whole "attention span" thing</i>
+::I probably would too... but ONLY if the character stood for love, and also for justice! - IanPrice

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