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Thus Spake Zaranephilpal/MortalsMatter

2012-05-14T16:41:14Z

Aquillion: Created page with 'From an IM conversation he posted on his [http://nephilpal.livejournal.com/80907.html#cutid1 blog]: Nephilpal: You don't want mortals to matter. Nephilpal: Nor to have them …'

From an IM conversation he posted on his [http://nephilpal.livejournal.com/80907.html#cutid1 blog]:

Nephilpal: You don't want mortals to matter. 
Nephilpal: Nor to have them addressed in any meaningful rules-supported way. 
Nephilpal: Whereas I proceed from the operational model and developer outlines that it is to be a Bronze-age post-apocalyptic world in which demigods roam and fight and make power plays 
Nephilpal: And yet, Exaltation only sets you above them a little ways. 
Nephilpal: And it is precisely your proportion of awesomeness above them that degrades your humanity and ultimately leads to ruin and debauched tyranny. 
Nephilpal: I write Exalted as a game of humanity, where for all the invulnerability you may have, Lois Lane is not. 
Nephilpal: And you'll have to choose between stopping the demon incursion on the Blessed Isle and opposing the march of Juggernaut 
Nephilpal: Wherever you aren't, people will die. 
Nephilpal: Or more importantly, people will die. 
Nephilpal: And when you march them into battle, your friends, your lovers, your followers: they're probably going to get sepsis and die. 
Nephilpal: And the beauty of it is, when it comes to those heroic mortals, they weren't any less cool than you. Just not as lucky. 
Nephilpal: They didn't Exalt. You did. 
Nephilpal: And their deeds can ride up, but never catch up. 
Nephilpal: And in the end, their end will be gruesome and horrible and unfair. 
Nephilpal: In any case, those are my thoughts.

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal

2012-05-14T16:39:42Z

Aquillion: /* Other */

= Thus Spake Zaranephilpal =
Musings from the Dark One ...

Please put each musing in a seperate sub-page to make this section readable. ^_^

== Second Edition Rules ==
Nepth wrote the E2 Rules 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SimultaniousFlurries]] - When people flurry each other, what happens. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SSEandSoulbreaker]] - Seven Shadow Evasion CAN dodge the soulbreaker-shockweave. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarBond]] - It's really a beautiful thing. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IrrationalVirtues]] - Why virtues in Exalted work the way they do. 

== Infernals 2e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/InfernalsStillNotEvil]] from Do Infernals HAVE to be evil? 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/InfernalEvolution]] They're turning into Something Else 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnTheEbonDragonAndVirtue]] He really doesn't have any. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnTheEbonDragonAndSalesPitches]] He's really, really convincing. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnWritingTheEbonDragon]] "I don't use music to write the Ebon Dragon. I use evil." 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WhatInfernalsCantDo]] Now, as to what Infernals can't do... 

== Abyssals 2e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsAndChoice]] On what it means to choose to become an Abyssal, and why it works that way. 

== Charms ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ArtfulMaimingOnslaught]] as if this charm weren't nasty enough 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BreathDrainingPrana]] for what can be soaked and the effect of mote stealing 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CryptBolt]] is blockable 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/GloriousCarnageTyphoon]] provides movement 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HauntingInflectionTrick]] for how blatant its use is 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IrresistableSuccubusStyle]] may need errata 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MotiveDiscerningTechnique]] and how it stacks up against a Yozi 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/RapaciousLampreyTechnique]] for errata (this should be 1xEssence not 3xEssence) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/StLS_vs_VST]] for a comparison between Solar "Summoning The Loyal Steel" and Abyssal "Void Sheath Technique" 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WrithingBloodChainTechnique]] for what you can do with this 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BlackMirrorShintai]] IPP protecting against it, multiple people can't coppy the same guy, etc. 

== Blood and Salt ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OctavianInformation]] for black iron, infernal numbers etc 

== Player's Guide ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/Akuma]] are they real infernals, the name, how much they're changed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HalfCaste]] suggestions regarding Exalting as a different type than one's ancestor 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HighInheritance]] the sky's the limit! 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MeritsAndFlaws]] Neph's thoughts, along with associated WW forum-related comments 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/PlayersGuide]] for his thoughts on specific issues. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WyldMutationMerit]] mutations taken as Merits don't cap Essence 

== Other ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalAppearance]] for how easily they can hide 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsBecomingSolars]] for clarification on what happens when an Abyssal is redeemed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalBiology]] for a paragraph on the need to eat etc 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsOutsideFate]] for Neph's opinion that they are 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AutonomyOption]] for one way to run an Abyssal game without some of the strings 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ConvertingSolarAndAbyssalCharms]] for some charms that might or might not convert easily 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CraftList]] for a comprehensive treatment of one of the less-appreciated abilities 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DarkReflecions]] for why only fallen Solars become Abyssals 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DarththeAbyssal]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DeathKnight]] for amusing dialogue between a Solar and Abyssal 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DestroyingMonstrances]] for what really happens when a Deathlord pitches one to the Void 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/EclipseLegitBusiness]] for what constitutes legitimate business for an Eclipse 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ExaltedContinuityPhilosophy]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/GhostCharmUse]] for Arcanoi vs Charms and who uses what 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HearthstonesInUnderworld]] explaining which stones work where 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HeroicMortals]] for what must be done for them to fight on an Exalted level 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HighEssenceAbyssalCharms]] for how scary they would be 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HowMalfeansLook]] for a description of one 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IncredibleAbyssalDodge]] for the additional options available to Abyssals 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LunarCharms]] Neph's thoughts on Lunar charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LunarEatsTerrestrial]] for what is likely to happen when a Lunar drinks her heart's blood 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MalfeanDeath]] for a look at their death and their attitude, and whether they can be killed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MalfeansInTheirOwnWords]] for their descriptions of themselves 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NatureOfCreation]] Neph's take on the distinction between Gaia and Creation 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NecromancyOrigins]] for the Solar discovery of something that existed Before ... 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NonAbyssalNecromancy]] for info on Solar etc use of Necromancy in the second age 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OriginsOfSorcery]] for just who the hell taught Brigid this insanity. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OutsideFate]] for what is and what isn't 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SecretMartialArts]] for Neph's humorous thoughts on Sidereal Kung Fu 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SiderealCasteMarks]] for just what the heck these are supposed to be 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SocialCombat]] for his thoughts on "Social Combat" 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarsBecomingAbyssals]] for clarification on what happens when a Solar is corrupted 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarPermanentCharms]] for thoughts on possible permanent charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SpiritsVsGhosts]] on the difference 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SubjectiveMorality]] and who should win: Greeks or Norse? 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/TerrestrialMartialArtsAndPerfection]] for elemental alignment of TMA and perfection terminology 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/YoziAttitudes]] for how the Yozis see Creation and its inhabitants. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MortalsMatter]] on how mortals matter and why 

== Neph's Charms ==
*[[MartialArts/IvoryHordeStyle]] for a new Abyssal martial art 
*[[Charms/NephAbyssalPerformance]] for some of Neph's new Performance Charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LoreVader]] for a Lore charm that crushes throats 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/KeyOfHeaven]] for a spirit charm that summons the Calibration gate 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlternateBreathDraining]] for Ikselam 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AnimaEnhancementCharms]] charms that boost Solar anima abilities 

== Neph's Necromancy ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NewNecromancySpellProgressions]] for some nifty Necromancy ideas 

== Neph's Deathlords ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NewDeathlord]] detailing The Pharaoh of Scouring Sands in the Oasis of His Regret 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SilverPrince]] for a non-canon but ultimately cool hint for running the Bodhisattva Anointed by Dark Waters 

== Neph's Item ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ArrowMonsoonQuiver]] for a quiver that produces (lovely) arrows 

== Fair Folk ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/KungFuDwarves]] for what the mountain folk will look like. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkBadAsses]] for more on the mountian folk. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkInspiration]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/PlayingFaeBlooded]] for a note on playing Fae-Blooded from the PG 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MaddeningHintMethod]] for Neph almost but not quite telling us something. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkSongs]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AssumptionOfCerementsAndBones]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ReturnToGlory]] for what might happen if you return the Mountain Folk to glory. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkMerits]]&Flaws for Neph's take on appropriate usage and modified Merits & Flaws for the Jadeborn 

== Infernals 1e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OntheYozis]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DifferenceFromAbyssals]] 

== Alchemicals ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalAbilitiesAtCreation]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalMusic]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalRelativePower]] How Alchemicals stack up next to other Exalts 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalSizes]] on the correct size / Essence relations in E:Au 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalSorcery]] for why they don't get Sorcery AND Weaving 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BeamKlaves]] for their proper Artifact rating and what they can cut through. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CharmSlots]] on why you can't buy Slots without Charms at reduced XP cost. 

== Off Topic ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ExaltedCompendium]] The compendium is a diseased place 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NotCanon]] Neph's explanation about his stuff 

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Thus Spake Zaranephilpal/EclipseLegitBusiness

2012-04-14T01:19:38Z

Aquillion:

Nephilpal - 09/14/2003 23:19:11

''"I go one step farther in regards to summoned creatures. If a demon/ghost/elemental is summoned and told to kill an Eclipse, it doesn't really have an opportunity to deny that request. Therefore, the pact immunity doesn't work in these cases."''

I'm with you on that.

As for warning shots ... I'm probably going to be as proportionally lenient or harsh with those as the player deserves.

-- Neph

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal/EclipseLegitBusiness

2012-04-14T01:19:22Z

Aquillion: removing the top quote (with some regret, since I did try to dig up the original thread), since without Neph's comments on it it has no place here.

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Nephilpal - 09/14/2003 23:19:11

''"I go one step farther in regards to summoned creatures. If a demon/ghost/elemental is summoned and told to kill an Eclipse, it doesn't really have an opportunity to deny that request. Therefore, the pact immunity doesn't work in these cases."''

I'm with you on that.

As for warning shots ... I'm probably going to be as proportionally lenient or harsh with those as the player deserves.

-- Neph

Thus Spake Zaraholden/MindSpiderCurse

2011-11-18T19:56:20Z

Aquillion: Created page with 'On [http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1221111&#post1221111 curing Mind-Spider Curse]: Quote: ''2. Is there any way to counter the effects of Mind Spider Curse …'

On [http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1221111&#post1221111 curing Mind-Spider Curse]:

Quote:
''2. Is there any way to counter the effects of Mind Spider Curse after the victim(s) have already succumbed to it?''

It's Sorcerous, so, countermagic.

Thus Spake Zaraholden

2011-11-18T19:55:09Z

Aquillion:

Quotes from Holden Schearer, Ink Monkey, writer on 2e Alchemicals and Infernals playtester

*[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/InfernalsEvilorNot]] from "Do Infernals HAVE to be evil? (No.)
*[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/InfernalsAsGreenSunKings]] Will the Yozis be replaced by their Exalts? (Oh yes.)
*[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/GreenSunBullseyes]] Won't the other Celestial Exalted kill me on sight? (No.)
*[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/WhoGetsHoly]] Why even intact Primordials probably wouldn't have Holy, and why Alchemicals don't.
*[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/AlchemicalVsSolarCraft]] How Alchemical crafting ability stacks up to Solar Craft.
*[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/AutochthonVsSolarCraft]] On Autochthon's crafting ability (and how it stacks up to Solars.)
*[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/OnSolarPower]] General discussions on where Solar power balance is meant to be in the setting.
*[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/OnFaFL]] His thoughts on the First and Forsaken Lion.
*[[Thus Spake Zaraholden/GoldenAgeOfTheShogunate]] Was the Shogunate a functional replacement for the glories of the first age? If not, why do the Dragon-Blooded look at it with such nostalgia?
*[[Thus Spake Zaraholden/TheSecretOfExalted]] What's the goal of Exalted, really?
*[[Thus Spake Zaraholden/MindSpiderCurse]] How it works, and how to cure it.
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*back to [[WriterQuotes]]

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal/BlackMirrorShintai

2011-05-29T07:18:23Z

Aquillion: Created page with '[http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=221414#post221414 Here]: Multiple people can't copy the same character because of the shadow thing, yes. Duration is one day…'

[http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=221414#post221414 Here]:

Multiple people can't copy the same character because of the shadow thing, yes. Duration is one day.

Walking up to someone, tagging them to hate them and then transforming elsewhere is exactly how the Charm is best used.

[http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=221555#post221555 Further down]:

You are brilliant. I'm going to own up to the fact that this turned out right by accident. Taking their shadow would be a form of shaping attack, which means IPP stops someone from copying you. Won't bring your shadow back if you've been copied, though.

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal

2011-05-29T07:15:49Z

Aquillion: /* Charms */

= Thus Spake Zaranephilpal =
Musings from the Dark One ...

Please put each musing in a seperate sub-page to make this section readable. ^_^

== Second Edition Rules ==
Nepth wrote the E2 Rules 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SimultaniousFlurries]] - When people flurry each other, what happens. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SSEandSoulbreaker]] - Seven Shadow Evasion CAN dodge the soulbreaker-shockweave. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarBond]] - It's really a beautiful thing. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IrrationalVirtues]] - Why virtues in Exalted work the way they do. 

== Infernals 2e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/InfernalsStillNotEvil]] from Do Infernals HAVE to be evil? 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/InfernalEvolution]] They're turning into Something Else 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnTheEbonDragonAndVirtue]] He really doesn't have any. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnTheEbonDragonAndSalesPitches]] He's really, really convincing. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnWritingTheEbonDragon]] "I don't use music to write the Ebon Dragon. I use evil." 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WhatInfernalsCantDo]] Now, as to what Infernals can't do... 

== Abyssals 2e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsAndChoice]] On what it means to choose to become an Abyssal, and why it works that way. 

== Charms ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ArtfulMaimingOnslaught]] as if this charm weren't nasty enough 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BreathDrainingPrana]] for what can be soaked and the effect of mote stealing 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CryptBolt]] is blockable 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/GloriousCarnageTyphoon]] provides movement 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HauntingInflectionTrick]] for how blatant its use is 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IrresistableSuccubusStyle]] may need errata 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MotiveDiscerningTechnique]] and how it stacks up against a Yozi 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/RapaciousLampreyTechnique]] for errata (this should be 1xEssence not 3xEssence) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/StLS_vs_VST]] for a comparison between Solar "Summoning The Loyal Steel" and Abyssal "Void Sheath Technique" 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WrithingBloodChainTechnique]] for what you can do with this 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BlackMirrorShintai]] IPP protecting against it, multiple people can't coppy the same guy, etc. 

== Blood and Salt ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OctavianInformation]] for black iron, infernal numbers etc 

== Player's Guide ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/Akuma]] are they real infernals, the name, how much they're changed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HalfCaste]] suggestions regarding Exalting as a different type than one's ancestor 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HighInheritance]] the sky's the limit! 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MeritsAndFlaws]] Neph's thoughts, along with associated WW forum-related comments 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/PlayersGuide]] for his thoughts on specific issues. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WyldMutationMerit]] mutations taken as Merits don't cap Essence 

== Other ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalAppearance]] for how easily they can hide 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsBecomingSolars]] for clarification on what happens when an Abyssal is redeemed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalBiology]] for a paragraph on the need to eat etc 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsOutsideFate]] for Neph's opinion that they are 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AutonomyOption]] for one way to run an Abyssal game without some of the strings 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ConvertingSolarAndAbyssalCharms]] for some charms that might or might not convert easily 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CraftList]] for a comprehensive treatment of one of the less-appreciated abilities 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DarkReflecions]] for why only fallen Solars become Abyssals 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DarththeAbyssal]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DeathKnight]] for amusing dialogue between a Solar and Abyssal 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DestroyingMonstrances]] for what really happens when a Deathlord pitches one to the Void 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/EclipseLegitBusiness]] for what constitutes legitimate business for an Eclipse 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ExaltedContinuityPhilosophy]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/GhostCharmUse]] for Arcanoi vs Charms and who uses what 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HearthstonesInUnderworld]] explaining which stones work where 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HeroicMortals]] for what must be done for them to fight on an Exalted level 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HighEssenceAbyssalCharms]] for how scary they would be 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HowMalfeansLook]] for a description of one 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IncredibleAbyssalDodge]] for the additional options available to Abyssals 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LunarCharms]] Neph's thoughts on Lunar charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LunarEatsTerrestrial]] for what is likely to happen when a Lunar drinks her heart's blood 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MalfeanDeath]] for a look at their death and their attitude, and whether they can be killed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MalfeansInTheirOwnWords]] for their descriptions of themselves 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NatureOfCreation]] Neph's take on the distinction between Gaia and Creation 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NecromancyOrigins]] for the Solar discovery of something that existed Before ... 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NonAbyssalNecromancy]] for info on Solar etc use of Necromancy in the second age 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OriginsOfSorcery]] for just who the hell taught Brigid this insanity. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OutsideFate]] for what is and what isn't 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SecretMartialArts]] for Neph's humorous thoughts on Sidereal Kung Fu 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SiderealCasteMarks]] for just what the heck these are supposed to be 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SocialCombat]] for his thoughts on "Social Combat" 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarsBecomingAbyssals]] for clarification on what happens when a Solar is corrupted 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarPermanentCharms]] for thoughts on possible permanent charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SpiritsVsGhosts]] on the difference 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SubjectiveMorality]] and who should win: Greeks or Norse? 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/TerrestrialMartialArtsAndPerfection]] for elemental alignment of TMA and perfection terminology 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/YoziAttitudes]] for how the Yozis see Creation and its inhabitants. 

== Neph's Charms ==
*[[MartialArts/IvoryHordeStyle]] for a new Abyssal martial art 
*[[Charms/NephAbyssalPerformance]] for some of Neph's new Performance Charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LoreVader]] for a Lore charm that crushes throats 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/KeyOfHeaven]] for a spirit charm that summons the Calibration gate 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlternateBreathDraining]] for Ikselam 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AnimaEnhancementCharms]] charms that boost Solar anima abilities 

== Neph's Necromancy ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NewNecromancySpellProgressions]] for some nifty Necromancy ideas 

== Neph's Deathlords ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NewDeathlord]] detailing The Pharaoh of Scouring Sands in the Oasis of His Regret 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SilverPrince]] for a non-canon but ultimately cool hint for running the Bodhisattva Anointed by Dark Waters 

== Neph's Item ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ArrowMonsoonQuiver]] for a quiver that produces (lovely) arrows 

== Fair Folk ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/KungFuDwarves]] for what the mountain folk will look like. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkBadAsses]] for more on the mountian folk. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkInspiration]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/PlayingFaeBlooded]] for a note on playing Fae-Blooded from the PG 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MaddeningHintMethod]] for Neph almost but not quite telling us something. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkSongs]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AssumptionOfCerementsAndBones]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ReturnToGlory]] for what might happen if you return the Mountain Folk to glory. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkMerits]]&Flaws for Neph's take on appropriate usage and modified Merits & Flaws for the Jadeborn 

== Infernals 1e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OntheYozis]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DifferenceFromAbyssals]] 

== Alchemicals ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalAbilitiesAtCreation]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalMusic]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalRelativePower]] How Alchemicals stack up next to other Exalts 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalSizes]] on the correct size / Essence relations in E:Au 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalSorcery]] for why they don't get Sorcery AND Weaving 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BeamKlaves]] for their proper Artifact rating and what they can cut through. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CharmSlots]] on why you can't buy Slots without Charms at reduced XP cost. 

== Off Topic ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ExaltedCompendium]] The compendium is a diseased place 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NotCanon]] Neph's explanation about his stuff 

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Thus Spake Zaraholden/TheSecretOfExalted

2011-05-16T01:33:43Z

Aquillion: Created page with 'From [http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/28379/582870.aspx here]: Obviously, endless cakewalks get boring, but here's the secret of Exalted: Cleaning out the Temp…'

From [http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/28379/582870.aspx here]:

Obviously, endless cakewalks get boring, but here's the secret of Exalted: 
 
Cleaning out the Temple of the Lizardmen and slaying the blasphemous dark god they just summoned isn't the challenge of the game. Your Solars are supposed to have the power to do that, and without it being an uphill hundred-to-one-odds hail mary miracle victory. 
 
The thing a Solar may want to do as a hero, and which nobody in the setting has ever yet managed, is to create lasting peace, equitable and fair government, enduring happiness and boundless opportunity. Note lasting, as in, without a subset of those things being temporarily gained in such a way that it ensures later strife and calamity. To rule with grace and wisdom—there is no Charm for this. And if it seems that the best thing is not to rule, then to determine how best to wisely use the great power one has been granted—there is no Charm for this. To create a perfect world—there is no Charm for this, although there are Charms to create worlds. 
 
The point of Exalted, behind all the exploding cities and riotously fun punch-ups with behemoths and gods, is that given the power to easily (or even manageably) change the world, changing the world is still a task fraught with peril and unintended consequences and that power alone is not sufficient and has never been sufficient to solve the eternal dilemmas of the world. 
 
The actual military maneuvers by which the Primordial War was brought to a conclusion are fun to play through but they're not really the point of the War, at all. They're almost superfluous, to be honest.

Thus Spake Zaraholden

2011-05-16T01:31:47Z

Aquillion:

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal/WhatInfernalsCantDo

2011-05-10T10:22:45Z

Aquillion:

Now, as to what Infernals can't do: 
1) Be perfect in an endeavor, rather than a specific approach to that endeavor. 
2) Develop without invariably limiting and defining their bodies, minds and souls. You can't cherry pick your way out of this. 
3) Develop extreme competence in one theme without losing some competence in opposing themes. 
4) Suck. 
 
I may be biased on #4, but you can probably trust the first three. 
 
... 
 
I would be strongly against letting Heretical Charms smooth off the flaws of other Charms. In some cases, you can shift a flaw to something equally constraining, such as how Adorjan initially attacks loud noises and then develops an avoidance response as you approach the Silent Wind herself. However, being an Infernal is about accepting limitations in the name of power. Heretics don't ever get to avoid that-- they just get to explore new limitations, too. 
 
Source: [http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/42839/925326.aspx]

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal/WhatInfernalsCantDo

2011-05-10T10:20:22Z

Aquillion:

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal/WhatInfernalsCantDo

2011-05-10T10:20:02Z

Aquillion:

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal/WhatInfernalsCantDo

2011-05-10T10:19:36Z

Aquillion: Created page with 'Now, as to what Infernals can't do: 1) Be perfect in an endeavor, rather than a specific approach to that endeavor. 2) Develop without invariably limiting and defining their bodi…'

Now, as to what Infernals can't do:
1) Be perfect in an endeavor, rather than a specific approach to that endeavor.
2) Develop without invariably limiting and defining their bodies, minds and souls. You can't cherry pick your way out of this.
3) Develop extreme competence in one theme without losing some competence in opposing themes.
4) Suck.

I may be biased on #4, but you can probably trust the first three.

Source: [http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/42839/925326.aspx]

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal

2011-05-10T10:18:57Z

Aquillion: /* Infernals 2e */

= Thus Spake Zaranephilpal =
Musings from the Dark One ...

Please put each musing in a seperate sub-page to make this section readable. ^_^

== Second Edition Rules ==
Nepth wrote the E2 Rules 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SimultaniousFlurries]] - When people flurry each other, what happens. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SSEandSoulbreaker]] - Seven Shadow Evasion CAN dodge the soulbreaker-shockweave. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarBond]] - It's really a beautiful thing. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IrrationalVirtues]] - Why virtues in Exalted work the way they do. 

== Infernals 2e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/InfernalsStillNotEvil]] from Do Infernals HAVE to be evil? 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/InfernalEvolution]] They're turning into Something Else 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnTheEbonDragonAndVirtue]] He really doesn't have any. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnTheEbonDragonAndSalesPitches]] He's really, really convincing. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnWritingTheEbonDragon]] "I don't use music to write the Ebon Dragon. I use evil." 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WhatInfernalsCantDo]] Now, as to what Infernals can't do... 

== Abyssals 2e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsAndChoice]] On what it means to choose to become an Abyssal, and why it works that way. 

== Charms ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ArtfulMaimingOnslaught]] as if this charm weren't nasty enough 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BreathDrainingPrana]] for what can be soaked and the effect of mote stealing 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CryptBolt]] is blockable 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/GloriousCarnageTyphoon]] provides movement 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HauntingInflectionTrick]] for how blatant its use is 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IrresistableSuccubusStyle]] may need errata 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MotiveDiscerningTechnique]] and how it stacks up against a Yozi 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/RapaciousLampreyTechnique]] for errata (this should be 1xEssence not 3xEssence) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/StLS_vs_VST]] for a comparison between Solar "Summoning The Loyal Steel" and Abyssal "Void Sheath Technique" 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WrithingBloodChainTechnique]] for what you can do with this 

== Blood and Salt ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OctavianInformation]] for black iron, infernal numbers etc 

== Player's Guide ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/Akuma]] are they real infernals, the name, how much they're changed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HalfCaste]] suggestions regarding Exalting as a different type than one's ancestor 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HighInheritance]] the sky's the limit! 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MeritsAndFlaws]] Neph's thoughts, along with associated WW forum-related comments 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/PlayersGuide]] for his thoughts on specific issues. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WyldMutationMerit]] mutations taken as Merits don't cap Essence 

== Other ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalAppearance]] for how easily they can hide 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsBecomingSolars]] for clarification on what happens when an Abyssal is redeemed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalBiology]] for a paragraph on the need to eat etc 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsOutsideFate]] for Neph's opinion that they are 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AutonomyOption]] for one way to run an Abyssal game without some of the strings 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ConvertingSolarAndAbyssalCharms]] for some charms that might or might not convert easily 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CraftList]] for a comprehensive treatment of one of the less-appreciated abilities 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DarkReflecions]] for why only fallen Solars become Abyssals 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DarththeAbyssal]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DeathKnight]] for amusing dialogue between a Solar and Abyssal 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DestroyingMonstrances]] for what really happens when a Deathlord pitches one to the Void 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/EclipseLegitBusiness]] for what constitutes legitimate business for an Eclipse 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ExaltedContinuityPhilosophy]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/GhostCharmUse]] for Arcanoi vs Charms and who uses what 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HearthstonesInUnderworld]] explaining which stones work where 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HeroicMortals]] for what must be done for them to fight on an Exalted level 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HighEssenceAbyssalCharms]] for how scary they would be 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HowMalfeansLook]] for a description of one 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IncredibleAbyssalDodge]] for the additional options available to Abyssals 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LunarCharms]] Neph's thoughts on Lunar charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LunarEatsTerrestrial]] for what is likely to happen when a Lunar drinks her heart's blood 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MalfeanDeath]] for a look at their death and their attitude, and whether they can be killed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MalfeansInTheirOwnWords]] for their descriptions of themselves 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NatureOfCreation]] Neph's take on the distinction between Gaia and Creation 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NecromancyOrigins]] for the Solar discovery of something that existed Before ... 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NonAbyssalNecromancy]] for info on Solar etc use of Necromancy in the second age 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OriginsOfSorcery]] for just who the hell taught Brigid this insanity. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OutsideFate]] for what is and what isn't 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SecretMartialArts]] for Neph's humorous thoughts on Sidereal Kung Fu 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SiderealCasteMarks]] for just what the heck these are supposed to be 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SocialCombat]] for his thoughts on "Social Combat" 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarsBecomingAbyssals]] for clarification on what happens when a Solar is corrupted 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarPermanentCharms]] for thoughts on possible permanent charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SpiritsVsGhosts]] on the difference 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SubjectiveMorality]] and who should win: Greeks or Norse? 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/TerrestrialMartialArtsAndPerfection]] for elemental alignment of TMA and perfection terminology 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/YoziAttitudes]] for how the Yozis see Creation and its inhabitants. 

== Neph's Charms ==
*[[MartialArts/IvoryHordeStyle]] for a new Abyssal martial art 
*[[Charms/NephAbyssalPerformance]] for some of Neph's new Performance Charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LoreVader]] for a Lore charm that crushes throats 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/KeyOfHeaven]] for a spirit charm that summons the Calibration gate 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlternateBreathDraining]] for Ikselam 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AnimaEnhancementCharms]] charms that boost Solar anima abilities 

== Neph's Necromancy ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NewNecromancySpellProgressions]] for some nifty Necromancy ideas 

== Neph's Deathlords ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NewDeathlord]] detailing The Pharaoh of Scouring Sands in the Oasis of His Regret 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SilverPrince]] for a non-canon but ultimately cool hint for running the Bodhisattva Anointed by Dark Waters 

== Neph's Item ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ArrowMonsoonQuiver]] for a quiver that produces (lovely) arrows 

== Fair Folk ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/KungFuDwarves]] for what the mountain folk will look like. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkBadAsses]] for more on the mountian folk. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkInspiration]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/PlayingFaeBlooded]] for a note on playing Fae-Blooded from the PG 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MaddeningHintMethod]] for Neph almost but not quite telling us something. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkSongs]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AssumptionOfCerementsAndBones]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ReturnToGlory]] for what might happen if you return the Mountain Folk to glory. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkMerits]]&Flaws for Neph's take on appropriate usage and modified Merits & Flaws for the Jadeborn 

== Infernals 1e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OntheYozis]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DifferenceFromAbyssals]] 

== Alchemicals ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalAbilitiesAtCreation]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalMusic]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalRelativePower]] How Alchemicals stack up next to other Exalts 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalSizes]] on the correct size / Essence relations in E:Au 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalSorcery]] for why they don't get Sorcery AND Weaving 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BeamKlaves]] for their proper Artifact rating and what they can cut through. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CharmSlots]] on why you can't buy Slots without Charms at reduced XP cost. 

== Off Topic ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ExaltedCompendium]] The compendium is a diseased place 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NotCanon]] Neph's explanation about his stuff 

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Thus Spake Zargrabowski/WyldShapingTechnique

2011-04-10T18:08:53Z

Aquillion:

[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal|Nephilpal]] reports a conversation with Grabowski:

Me: Random question. Did you always mean for Wyld-Shaping technique to be a bedrock cornerstone of Solar craft and the infrastructure of the High First Age? My understanding (perhaps flawed) was yes, that it was the primary means by which impossible ingredients were fabricated to permit otherwise impossible artifacts, thereby advancing the tech curve. Am I wrong?

Geoff Grabowski: I think they had several fonts of that sort of thing. They probably also had powerful demons make impossibilities for them.

Me: *nods* Yeah, we mentioned those in Wonders-- making supercomputers out of Third Circles to parallel process impossible ideas.

Geoff Grabowski: I would imagine solar circle sorcery can also make things with pretty much any arbitrary property.

Me: Yes, though the "each spell does exactly one thing" limits that as an optimal solution since you have to dump XP into each impossibility.

Geoff Grabowski: *nod* The large-scale stuff, they definitely leaned on wyld-shaping -- like the part where they grew the world considerably.

Me: Yeah, like when they built the continent of Saigoth.

Geoff Grabowski: I think they probably had the sense to not let too many demon princes build their infrastructure of being, so that kinda limits what you can do.

Me: Yup. Is the core conceit that WST is a Very Big Deal, one of the most important Charms in the Solar arsenal, accurate? I mean, not THE most, obviously -- Integrity Protecting "I don't care if you can unmake me into glittering motes with a wave of your titanic hand" Prana and Ghost Eating "I kill the unkillable and immortal makers of the universe" Technique beat it for Solar importance, I'll wager-- not to mention defining how Solars were Hax and Broken from a Primordial perspective.

Geoff Grabowski: Yah. The moorcockian image of the knight riding out to make more world to conquer was intended to be central.
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From [http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=569973#post569973 here].

Thus Spake Zargrabowski/WyldShapingTechnique

2011-04-10T18:08:21Z

Aquillion: Created page with '[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal|Nephilpal] reports a conversation with Grabowski: Me: Random question. Did you always mean for Wyld-Shaping technique to be a bedrock cornerstone of So…'

[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal|Nephilpal] reports a conversation with Grabowski:

Me: Random question. Did you always mean for Wyld-Shaping technique to be a bedrock cornerstone of Solar craft and the infrastructure of the High First Age? My understanding (perhaps flawed) was yes, that it was the primary means by which impossible ingredients were fabricated to permit otherwise impossible artifacts, thereby advancing the tech curve. Am I wrong?

Geoff Grabowski: I think they had several fonts of that sort of thing. They probably also had powerful demons make impossibilities for them.

Me: *nods* Yeah, we mentioned those in Wonders-- making supercomputers out of Third Circles to parallel process impossible ideas.

Geoff Grabowski: I would imagine solar circle sorcery can also make things with pretty much any arbitrary property.

Me: Yes, though the "each spell does exactly one thing" limits that as an optimal solution since you have to dump XP into each impossibility.

Geoff Grabowski: *nod* The large-scale stuff, they definitely leaned on wyld-shaping -- like the part where they grew the world considerably.

Me: Yeah, like when they built the continent of Saigoth.

Geoff Grabowski: I think they probably had the sense to not let too many demon princes build their infrastructure of being, so that kinda limits what you can do.

Me: Yup. Is the core conceit that WST is a Very Big Deal, one of the most important Charms in the Solar arsenal, accurate? I mean, not THE most, obviously -- Integrity Protecting "I don't care if you can unmake me into glittering motes with a wave of your titanic hand" Prana and Ghost Eating "I kill the unkillable and immortal makers of the universe" Technique beat it for Solar importance, I'll wager-- not to mention defining how Solars were Hax and Broken from a Primordial perspective.

Geoff Grabowski: Yah. The moorcockian image of the knight riding out to make more world to conquer was intended to be central.
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From [http://forums.white-wolf.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=569973#post569973 here].

Thus Spake Zargrabowski

2011-04-10T18:00:27Z

Aquillion: /* Solars */ WyldShapingTechnique

= Geoffrey C. Grabowski - Quotes =

==== [[WriterQuotes|Back to WriterQuotes]] ====

Feel free to add, each quote in a different section please. ^_^

== Core Rulebook ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ChapterFinishedFirst]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/RevisedCoreRulebook]]

== Solars ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/AccuracyWithoutDistance]] for how perfect it is and its interaction with Rain of Feathered Death 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/EbonShadowStyle]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/EclipseAnimaAbilities]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/FlawlessHandiworkMethod]] - how long it takes 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/GEBandDSD]] stack ... 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/HGDAndOrchDaiklaves]] - and why they rulez. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LookingLikeGods]] for what happens when you show your anima banner to the peasants 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/WhatDoTheyDo]] - and why they do it. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/WyldShapingTechnique]] - what the intent behind it was. 

== Abyssals ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/FutureAbyssalCharms]] for the "wonderful" things these might do!

== Lunars ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/AppearanceBasedCharms]] for why there aren't any 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/BeastMen]] for how these are created 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/Complaints]] for who to contact (but just don't! ^_^) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ConditionOfCreation]] for how Lunars fit in to this 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/IfTheLunarsWin]] for what happens if the Lunars take control 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LunarAdamantSkin]] for how to beat a lunar with healing gifts and a certain gemstone ... 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LunarExcerciseCharms]] for what these are intended for 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LunarIllusionists]] for what happened here 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LunarProofRead]] when Lunars was about to come out 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LunarXPCosts]] for why these are higher 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LunarsOutsidePact]] for ways to play this 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ReleasingLunarErrata]] for when we hoped Lunar errata was coming ... ^_^ 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ShapeShiftAnimal]] for what you can do in animal form 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/TigerClawSwatErrata]] for how to limit this charm slightly 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/WaterBreathingGift]] for a tiny bit of info 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/WhatCultsAre]] to explain Exalted use of the word "cult"

== Dragon Blooded ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/DBsArentNice]] for thoughts on the personalities of the more "virtuous" Dragon-Bloods 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/HouseBasedBooks]] for what books may and will not be coming out 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/RealmScript]] for an old post on when this might have been seen ^_^

== Sidereals ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/DeployingAstrology]] for general information on astrology 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/DestinyInfectingTouch]] for how sneaky Sidereals really are 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ExaltedCosmology]] for some of GCG's invulnerable preconceptions about Exaltedness 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/FiveSplatHappiness]] for how happy GCG is that all five fatsplats are done 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/MultipleFamiliars]] for how these work 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PolicingMandateOfHeaven]] to state that all Bureaus handle this 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PracticalAstrology]] for good astrological effects 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/SiderealErrata]] for mistakes and fixes 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/SiderealsSoon]] for its release (before it had come out) ... 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/SpiderColleges]] for what these are

== Fair Folk ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/Backgrounds]]

== Other Rules Commentary ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ArmorComparison]] - why a breastplate has more Lethal than Bashing soak 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/BattleCasting]] - it IS hard. Do something about it. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/CancelingYourSorcery]] - you need Countermagic. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/CraftRules]] are probably too abstract 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/DottedYellowLines]] go where the road goes, and not the other way around 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ExaltedCombat]] for how it differs for mortals and Exalted 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/InterestingComments]] on HCM, DFAM, BDD (3 agg), MTW, Fae Essence, Night Anima, Mortal Talismans 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LearningSorcery]] takes a long time 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/MassCombat]] on the rules for large-scale battles in the Player's Guide 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/NinjaInteriorDecoration]] for why lots of Manses are a logistical nightmare 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PGErrata]] - and the book's not even out yet! Plus a major ??? moment. :) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PowerCombat]] on the new combat rules in the Player's Guide 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/Sorcery]] for why sorcery works the way it does in Exalted 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/Stunts]] and how they work 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/SummoningPower]] for what is permissible, and the consequences

[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/TheErrataMaybe]] - Maybe pre-errata? 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/VirtuesVsMorality]] - "the Virtue system operates independently of good and evil" 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PowerCombatRateAndDualWielding]] - On dual wielding in power combat

== Other Setting Commentary ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/Authoritarianism]] for how Paragon sucks as much as the rest of the world 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/BigWorld]] - it's huge, in fact, and that's realistic 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/CoolestHell]] for a sentence on how wonderful aspects of Exalted are 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/EmpireBuilding]] for how possible the Exalted setting is 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/FightingThePrimordials]] - how the First Age Solars did it 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ImperfectGodsAndWorship]] for what is ok and what is frowned on 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ImperialMountain]] - it's damn big 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/InvadingNexus]] for what would happen if 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LytekPossibilities]] for how to approach him 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/NavalPower]] - on how creation supports so many ships 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/RealmAsPersia]] - if you want to extend the "Lookshy = Sparta" equation a little further 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/RealmTechnologicalLevels]] for what to expect when dealing with the technology in the Realm. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ShallowGods]] for why they are portrayed as they are 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/StandardMeasurements]] and their role in history 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/TheEnd]] - of the 2nd Age, as hinted in several books. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/WingedMen]] - the man talks about a brief note in a Castebook. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/WritingAndReading]] - and why he makes it tough.

== Other ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/AllFourDragonKings]] because you know you'd do it anyway 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ArmedVsUnarmedCombat]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/BloodAndSalt]] for what this is about 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/BookReleases]] past and future 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/CharmsAndSherlockHolmes]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/CoTWCover]] for a one line query about the cover 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/DBsVsSolars]] - and why one should rule. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/DinosaursVsRobots]] - an alternative title for Exalted 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/EssentialSupplements]] for which books are really needed, and which nice to have 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ExaltedInspiration]] - take that! 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ExaltedOperationInstructions]] - the guidebooklet. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/HearthstonesAreFragile]] since all it takes is one hammer ... 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/IntroduceExaltedToFriends]] 'cause if you do, they will love it 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/OnAnime]] - and why it doesn't have to be Exalted. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PastLives]] for why [[MF]] was so amazed to see that Merit in the Player's Guide :) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PlayersGuideContents]] ... 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PlayingDragonKings]] as an option in the Players' Guide 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PowerCommentary]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/PowerScaling]] for why statted gods etc. aren't as powerful as they could be 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ParryBullets]] just 'cause you can 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/ReluctantHorrorFans]] and how to convince them. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/SanctityOfGameWorld]] to tell you its Your game, You can do Anything! 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/SavantandSorcerer]] for what this is about 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/SecondEd]] - and what G has to say about it. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/UsefulnessOfGoD]] - that says it all.

== Off Topic ===
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/GeoffTheMan]] - new-conservative and more! 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/Underground]] and why you might hate it. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/QinShihuangdi]] for opinion's on Hero and the First Emperor of China 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/Movie]] for the Developer's casting choices 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/OfficeBehaviour]] for the fun the developers have in the office ^_^ 
[[Thus_Spake_Zargrabowski/LookingForWolfPack]] to finish matters started at [[GenCon]]

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===== Commentary =====
Dude, this is awesome! I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for some quotes. Too bad I didn't have the foresight to copy stuff from before Exalted was released. There was some awesome things said back then... ~[[Mailanka]]

Gaw-damn, this was a lot of writing. And I edited it for format, too. Damn, I'm a nice guy! ![[Domino]]

You sure are a nice guy, Domino! ^_^ Thanks! -- [[BrokenShade]]

I'd like to add that many, many of these quotes are only in my personal collection thanks to the diligence of jpcardier. I think. [[Domino]]

This is great! However, I miss the quote about the combo of Tornado Offense and Air Dragon Signature Weapon. [[Clebo]]

I am adding an absolute boatload of quotes from late 2001/early 2002 that I had archived on HD, on the theory that if I found it interesting enough to save, other people will probably find it interesting too. Also, I split up the "Other" section a bit, because it was way too large. --[[MF]]

Say, are there any official changes to weapon stats for people who otherwise aren't using the Power Combat rules? I've always thought the Lightning Torment Hatchets were <nowiki>Underpowered/Overpriced</nowiki>. -- DODurden

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[[WriterQuotes|Back to WriterQuotes]]

Thus Spake Zaraholden/OnSolarPower

2010-06-20T05:20:00Z

Aquillion:

''(Responding to general questions and objections related to Solar power.)''

> This is true of pretty much every non-Solar Charmset, and is the entire reason the Eclipse Caste 
> Anima power exists. If Solar Charms were better at everything under all conditions, it would be 
> fairly pointless.

A Solar can't turn into a bird, but then, he doesn't need to in order to fly.

Worth considering:

• A Solar who dedicates himself to being the ultimate Primordial-slayer. 
• A Primordial that styles itself unkillable.

I think you know where that story goes.

> Not to mention rather deprotagonizing for other splats.

This is pretty much where things went in the First Age.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624235.aspx#624235

> :(

That's what the Lunars said, too.

(The Sidereals and DBs eventually said "stab")

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624525.aspx#624525

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> Does this mean that other splats aren't capable of catching up to the Solars, even in their 
> specialized niches, or was this deprotagonization of every non-Solar splat at least partly a 
> function of how First Age infrastructure was set up to favor the Solars above all else?

Define 'niche.'

The thing is, the Solars mostly don't need to go invading the lesser Celestials' niches. They set the pace and the Lunars and Sids chase them. A Solar leaps across mountains, or soars into the air, because he is that awesome. A Lunar has to turn into a bird to keep pace. Why would the Solar need to turn into a bird, or want to? He can go soaring through the air himself. As himself.

The Sids manipulate a hundred subtle factors to guide the course of the world. Solars don't need to go mucking about with fate; they speak with the voice of thunder, and the world obeys.

Yes, the Sidereal has "naffs about with fate" as his niche, and the Solar isn't going to be doing that, but really, what niche are we talking about here? That's not a niche, it's a motif. When you get down to the end result accomplished via execution of your schtick, the Solar almost always comes out on top.

Hell, let's look at one of the few scenarios where Solars are explicitly second-best, martial arts. The Sidereals have undeniable advantages in the martial arts department thanks to their greater facility with SMA. But they still tend to lose bare-knuckle fights with Solars of equal age and XP.

The Solar doesn't need to be Old Master, who is peerless in the arts of Shaolin. He's the plucky young fighter who shows up and wins against all odds.

(edit: As for being superfluous, who do you figure trained the plucky young fighter? Who unraveled the plot to assassinate him before the tournament could get underway? The Exalted were designed to function as a cohesive whole... with the Solars at the center of that configuration.)

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624543.aspx#624543

Thus Spake Zaraholden/OnSolarPower

2010-06-20T04:52:58Z

Aquillion:

Thus Spake Zaraholden/OnSolarPower

2010-06-20T04:51:52Z

Aquillion: Created page with '''(Responding to general questions and objections related to Solar power.)'' > This is true of pretty much every non-Solar Charmset, and is the entire reason the Eclipse Caste …'

''(Responding to general questions and objections related to Solar power.)''

> This is true of pretty much every non-Solar Charmset, and is the entire reason the Eclipse Caste
> Anima power exists. If Solar Charms were better at everything under all conditions, it would be
> fairly pointless.

A Solar can't turn into a bird, but then, he doesn't need to in order to fly.

Worth considering:

• A Solar who dedicates himself to being the ultimate Primordial-slayer.
• A Primordial that styles itself unkillable.

I think you know where that story goes.

> Not to mention rather deprotagonizing for other splats.

This is pretty much where things went in the First Age.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624235.aspx#624235

Thus Spake Zaraholden/AutochthonVsSolarCraft

2010-06-20T04:50:05Z

Aquillion:

''On Autochthon's crafting capabilities:''

"The Craft Ability" isn't Autochthon's theme, and while he may have managed landmark achievements the Twilights never (yet) managed to duplicate, Solar crafting potential is unlimited. Which is to say, no matter how good Autodude is, he ain't above their potential ceiling. Because there isn't one.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624217.aspx#624217

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''More on Autochthhon's crafting capabilities, from the same thread:''

Those things don't map 1:1 to the Craft Ability. He's not a 500 Charm long Craft tree; rather, his shtick as the Great Maker informs his whole set, to the same degree as is reflected in the other Yozis (consider the example of the Greys—when he unleashed his giant nation-smiting Essence ray, it killed them and converted their remains into potent components to make stuff with. That's where he diverges from Solars). This actually means you are less likely to see consolidated "Craft Charms" the way the Solars have them, where they spend 8xp and can suddenly turbocraft with no tools. It means his competence in that direction is enormously distributed and somewhat inefficient—but quite potent taken as a whole.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624237.aspx#624237

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''(A few posts later)''

Autochthon is probably the greatest inventor to have ever lived. "Designed Exaltation" is a pretty big feather to have in your cap.

However—

Worth considering: Dude is, at minimum, millions of years old. Maybe billions.

The most eminent of the Twilights had long since managed to smoke many of his latter-day wonders, and had reached the precipice of his greatest achievements and were going at them with prybars when the Usurpation rolled in. And none of them had yet celebrated their 4,000th birthday.

Consider what they might have looked like in another thousand years—or another ten thousand, if that suits you better.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624244.aspx#624244

Thus Spake Zaraholden/AutochthonVsSolarCraft

2010-06-20T04:49:18Z

Aquillion:

''On Autochthon's crafting capabilities:''

"The Craft Ability" isn't Autochthon's theme, and while he may have managed landmark achievements the Twilights never (yet) managed to duplicate, Solar crafting potential is unlimited. Which is to say, no matter how good Autodude is, he ain't above their potential ceiling. Because there isn't one.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624217.aspx#624217

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Those things don't map 1:1 to the Craft Ability. He's not a 500 Charm long Craft tree; rather, his shtick as the Great Maker informs his whole set, to the same degree as is reflected in the other Yozis (consider the example of the Greys—when he unleashed his giant nation-smiting Essence ray, it killed them and converted their remains into potent components to make stuff with. That's where he diverges from Solars). This actually means you are less likely to see consolidated "Craft Charms" the way the Solars have them, where they spend 8xp and can suddenly turbocraft with no tools. It means his competence in that direction is enormously distributed and somewhat inefficient—but quite potent taken as a whole.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624237.aspx#624237

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''(A few posts later)''

Autochthon is probably the greatest inventor to have ever lived. "Designed Exaltation" is a pretty big feather to have in your cap.

However—

Worth considering: Dude is, at minimum, millions of years old. Maybe billions.

The most eminent of the Twilights had long since managed to smoke many of his latter-day wonders, and had reached the precipice of his greatest achievements and were going at them with prybars when the Usurpation rolled in. And none of them had yet celebrated their 4,000th birthday.

Consider what they might have looked like in another thousand years—or another ten thousand, if that suits you better.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624244.aspx#624244

Thus Spake Zaraholden/AutochthonVsSolarCraft

2010-06-20T04:48:02Z

Aquillion:

''On Autochthon's crafting capabilities:''

Those things don't map 1:1 to the Craft Ability. He's not a 500 Charm long Craft tree; rather, his shtick as the Great Maker informs his whole set, to the same degree as is reflected in the other Yozis (consider the example of the Greys—when he unleashed his giant nation-smiting Essence ray, it killed them and converted their remains into potent components to make stuff with. That's where he diverges from Solars). This actually means you are less likely to see consolidated "Craft Charms" the way the Solars have them, where they spend 8xp and can suddenly turbocraft with no tools. It means his competence in that direction is enormously distributed and somewhat inefficient—but quite potent taken as a whole.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624237.aspx#624237

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''(A few posts later)''

Autochthon is probably the greatest inventor to have ever lived. "Designed Exaltation" is a pretty big feather to have in your cap.

However—

Worth considering: Dude is, at minimum, millions of years old. Maybe billions.

The most eminent of the Twilights had long since managed to smoke many of his latter-day wonders, and had reached the precipice of his greatest achievements and were going at them with prybars when the Usurpation rolled in. And none of them had yet celebrated their 4,000th birthday.

Consider what they might have looked like in another thousand years—or another ten thousand, if that suits you better.

http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624244.aspx#624244

Thus Spake Zaraholden/AutochthonVsSolarCraft

2010-06-20T04:47:35Z

Aquillion:

''On Autochthon's crafting capabilities:''

Those things don't map 1:1 to the Craft Ability. He's not a 500 Charm long Craft tree; rather, his shtick as the Great Maker informs his whole set, to the same degree as is reflected in the other Yozis (consider the example of the Greys—when he unleashed his giant nation-smiting Essence ray, it killed them and converted their remains into potent components to make stuff with. That's where he diverges from Solars). This actually means you are less likely to see consolidated "Craft Charms" the way the Solars have them, where they spend 8xp and can suddenly turbocraft with no tools. It means his competence in that direction is enormously distributed and somewhat inefficient—but quite potent taken as a whole.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624237.aspx#624237

''(A few posts later)''

Autochthon is probably the greatest inventor to have ever lived. "Designed Exaltation" is a pretty big feather to have in your cap.

However—

Worth considering: Dude is, at minimum, millions of years old. Maybe billions.

The most eminent of the Twilights had long since managed to smoke many of his latter-day wonders, and had reached the precipice of his greatest achievements and were going at them with prybars when the Usurpation rolled in. And none of them had yet celebrated their 4,000th birthday.

Consider what they might have looked like in another thousand years—or another ten thousand, if that suits you better.

http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/624244.aspx#624244

Thus Spake Zaraholden

2010-06-20T04:46:13Z

Aquillion:

Quotes from Holden Schearer, Ink Monkey, writer on 2e Alchemicals and Infernals playtester

[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/InfernalsEvilorNot]] from "Do Infernals HAVE to be evil? (No.) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/InfernalsAsGreenSunKings]] Will the Yozis be replaced by their Exalts? (Oh yes.) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/GreenSunBullseyes]] Won't the other Celestial Exalted kill me on sight? (No.) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/WhoGetsHoly]] Why even intact Primordials probably wouldn't have Holy, and why Alchemicals don't.
[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/AlchemicalVsSolarCraft]] How Alchemical crafting ability stacks up to Solar Craft.
[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/AutochthonVsSolarCraft]] On Autochthon's crafting ability (and how it stacks up to Solars.)
[[Thus_Spake_Zaraholden/OnSolarPower]] General discussions on where Solar power balance is meant to be in the setting.

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Thus Spake Zaraholden/AutochthonVsSolarCraft

2010-06-20T04:43:39Z

Aquillion: Created page with '''On Autochthon's crafting capabilities:'' Those things don't map 1:1 to the Craft Ability. He's not a 500 Charm long Craft tree; rather, his shtick as the Great Maker informs h…'

Thus Spake Zaraholden

2010-06-20T04:42:13Z

Aquillion:

Thus Spake Zaraholden/AlchemicalVsSolarCraft

2010-06-20T04:39:47Z

Aquillion: Created page with '''On Alchemical Craft'': They're craft pimps because their patron is the Great Maker. But 'peer' doesn't mean 'identical.' Alchies can pull off some really amazing crafthax, but…'

''On Alchemical Craft'':

They're craft pimps because their patron is the Great Maker. But 'peer' doesn't mean 'identical.' Alchies can pull off some really amazing crafthax, but they have some limitations Solars don't. They never break the maintenance boundary for magitech. They never get away from resource-dependency. And they don't have the same capacity for forging inspiring world-changing wonders the Solars do.

Solars beat them in terms of being the Legendary Smith or The Only Scientist In The World Who Understands This Unique Superartifact—Because He Built It. Alchemicals excel in other areas, particularly mass production—they need less infrastructure and assistance to crank out a whole bunch of shock pikes (though it's worth noting that the probable cap on what kind of infrastructure sophistication they can manage is lower than where the Solars managed to get in the First Age).

And yes, many of the mechanics to express this differentiation aren't in play yet. Until recently, it hasn't been very hard to surpass a Solar as a craftsman, seeing as the only thing they had for the job was CNNT. The picture will become clearer as more of the Solar crafting suite appears soon.

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/30148/621821.aspx#621821

Thus Spake Zaraholden

2010-06-20T04:38:43Z

Aquillion:

Thus Spake Zaraholden/WhoGetsHoly

2010-06-20T04:35:44Z

Aquillion:

> Is it possible that any of the whole & free Primordials developed a few Holy Keyword Charms before
 > being declared Creatures of Darkness in the Rebellion & losing the ability to use them? I just like
 > the idea of He-That-Would-Be-Ligier being able to lay some whamy down on the Dragon's Shadow & his
 > souls from time to time (a game of cat & mouse that I'm sure lay waste to countless prehistoric
 > peoples & civilizations, not that either the Empyrean Chaos or the Dragon's Shadow particularly
 > cared... well the Dragon's Shadow thought it was pretty funny actually :P )

Dubious. Holy originates and propagates from Ignis Divine; even to the extent that the non-Solar Exalted have it in their Charmsets, this reflects their original configuration as being designed around a core of Solar leadership (this is part of why you don't see it anywhere in the Alchemical set).

Source: http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/29493/605572.aspx#605572

Thus Spake Zaraholden/WhoGetsHoly

2010-06-06T20:38:02Z

Aquillion: Created page with '> Is it possible that any of the whole & free Primordials developed a few Holy Keyword Charms before > being declared Creatures of Darkness in the Rebellion & losing the abi…'

Thus Spake Zaraholden

2010-06-06T20:34:50Z

Aquillion:

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsAndChoice

2010-06-02T03:10:13Z

Aquillion: Created page with '[http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/14781/295381.aspx#295381 Nephilpal replied on Tue, Oct 20 2009 10:31 AM] To be an Abyssal, you are consciously saying "I value my li…'

[http://forums.white-wolf.com/cs/forums/p/14781/295381.aspx#295381 Nephilpal replied on Tue, Oct 20 2009 10:31 AM]

To be an Abyssal, you are consciously saying "I value my life above the universe. I am willing to murder everything and everyone everywhere rather than die." It is the most supreme act of selfishness imaginable, and it is the beginning of your own doom and quite possibly the doom of everything unfortunate enough to cross your path.

Choice is requisite in this for two reasons:
1) When you stand upon the plain of dust and ashes that was Creation overlooking the yawning silent mouth of the Unmaking, your hair and cloak dramatically swirling back behind you in the chill moaning breeze, all alone, you know that this was your fault. Your choice. And here you stand in the final moments of time, victorious, if you can call it that, and you can't blame your dead forbears, your dead gods or this awesome cosmic force that is about to eat you. The ground cracks and tilts into the pit and you remember that moment when you said yes. Maybe you regret it. Maybe you laugh as your flesh and motes rip from your being. Maybe you cry. Maybe you just take it all in stoically. But you said yes. And it's your fault.

2) When you kneel under a fiery and wrathful sun that condemns your very existence as a blight upon his perfection and the world he so loves, your corpse-pale hands stained with blood and worse, you squint at the glare and mouth apology after apology. You said yes, you didn't want to die -- who does -- and yet you knew this was the price. You said yes, and you're sorry. You were wrong. You should have died. You should have gone quietly into the darkness so that life went on. And you're sorry. You're so sorry. You don't deserve to live... and OH MY GOD... light... hope... power... grace... Blessed is the Highest of Holies! Blood sizzles from your fingers in the searing nimbus of gold that envelops you, cauterizing the wound of your caste mark, radiating from your eyes and mouth and coiling upward, seemingly infinitely to a sky that welcomes you. You said yes, and now you can tell the darkness NO!

Thus Spake Zaranephilpal

2010-06-02T03:08:44Z

Aquillion:

= Thus Spake Zaranephilpal =
Musings from the Dark One ...

Please put each musing in a seperate sub-page to make this section readable. ^_^

== Second Edition Rules ==
Nepth wrote the E2 Rules 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SimultaniousFlurries]] - When people flurry each other, what happens. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SSEandSoulbreaker]] - Seven Shadow Evasion CAN dodge the soulbreaker-shockweave. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarBond]] - It's really a beautiful thing. 

== Infernals 2e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/InfernalsStillNotEvil]] from Do Infernals HAVE to be evil? 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/InfernalEvolution]] They're turning into Something Else 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnTheEbonDragonAndVirtue]] He really doesn't have any. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnTheEbonDragonAndSalesPitches]] He's really, really convincing. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OnWritingTheEbonDragon]] "I don't use music to write the Ebon Dragon. I use evil." 

== Abyssals 2e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsAndChoice]] On what it means to choose to become an Abyssal, and why it works that way. 

== Charms ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ArtfulMaimingOnslaught]] as if this charm weren't nasty enough 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BreathDrainingPrana]] for what can be soaked and the effect of mote stealing 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CryptBolt]] is blockable 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/GloriousCarnageTyphoon]] provides movement 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HauntingInflectionTrick]] for how blatant its use is 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IrresistableSuccubusStyle]] may need errata 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MotiveDiscerningTechnique]] and how it stacks up against a Yozi 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/RapaciousLampreyTechnique]] for errata (this should be 1xEssence not 3xEssence) 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/StLS_vs_VST]] for a comparison between Solar "Summoning The Loyal Steel" and Abyssal "Void Sheath Technique" 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WrithingBloodChainTechnique]] for what you can do with this 

== Blood and Salt ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OctavianInformation]] for black iron, infernal numbers etc 

== Player's Guide ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/Akuma]] are they real infernals, the name, how much they're changed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HalfCaste]] suggestions regarding Exalting as a different type than one's ancestor 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HighInheritance]] the sky's the limit! 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MeritsAndFlaws]] Neph's thoughts, along with associated WW forum-related comments 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/PlayersGuide]] for his thoughts on specific issues. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/WyldMutationMerit]] mutations taken as Merits don't cap Essence 

== Other ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalAppearance]] for how easily they can hide 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsBecomingSolars]] for clarification on what happens when an Abyssal is redeemed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalBiology]] for a paragraph on the need to eat etc 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AbyssalsOutsideFate]] for Neph's opinion that they are 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AutonomyOption]] for one way to run an Abyssal game without some of the strings 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ConvertingSolarAndAbyssalCharms]] for some charms that might or might not convert easily 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CraftList]] for a comprehensive treatment of one of the less-appreciated abilities 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DarkReflecions]] for why only fallen Solars become Abyssals 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DarththeAbyssal]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DeathKnight]] for amusing dialogue between a Solar and Abyssal 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DestroyingMonstrances]] for what really happens when a Deathlord pitches one to the Void 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/EclipseLegitBusiness]] for what constitutes legitimate business for an Eclipse 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ExaltedContinuityPhilosophy]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/GhostCharmUse]] for Arcanoi vs Charms and who uses what 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HearthstonesInUnderworld]] explaining which stones work where 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HeroicMortals]] for what must be done for them to fight on an Exalted level 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HighEssenceAbyssalCharms]] for how scary they would be 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/HowMalfeansLook]] for a description of one 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/IncredibleAbyssalDodge]] for the additional options available to Abyssals 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LunarCharms]] Neph's thoughts on Lunar charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LunarEatsTerrestrial]] for what is likely to happen when a Lunar drinks her heart's blood 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MalfeanDeath]] for a look at their death and their attitude, and whether they can be killed 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MalfeansInTheirOwnWords]] for their descriptions of themselves 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NatureOfCreation]] Neph's take on the distinction between Gaia and Creation 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NecromancyOrigins]] for the Solar discovery of something that existed Before ... 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NonAbyssalNecromancy]] for info on Solar etc use of Necromancy in the second age 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OriginsOfSorcery]] for just who the hell taught Brigid this insanity. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OutsideFate]] for what is and what isn't 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SecretMartialArts]] for Neph's humorous thoughts on Sidereal Kung Fu 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SiderealCasteMarks]] for just what the heck these are supposed to be 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SocialCombat]] for his thoughts on "Social Combat" 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarsBecomingAbyssals]] for clarification on what happens when a Solar is corrupted 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SolarPermanentCharms]] for thoughts on possible permanent charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SpiritsVsGhosts]] on the difference 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SubjectiveMorality]] and who should win: Greeks or Norse? 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/TerrestrialMartialArtsAndPerfection]] for elemental alignment of TMA and perfection terminology 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/YoziAttitudes]] for how the Yozis see Creation and its inhabitants. 

== Neph's Charms ==
*[[MartialArts/IvoryHordeStyle]] for a new Abyssal martial art 
*[[Charms/NephAbyssalPerformance]] for some of Neph's new Performance Charms 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/LoreVader]] for a Lore charm that crushes throats 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/KeyOfHeaven]] for a spirit charm that summons the Calibration gate 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlternateBreathDraining]] for Ikselam 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AnimaEnhancementCharms]] charms that boost Solar anima abilities 

== Neph's Necromancy ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NewNecromancySpellProgressions]] for some nifty Necromancy ideas 

== Neph's Deathlords ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NewDeathlord]] detailing The Pharaoh of Scouring Sands in the Oasis of His Regret 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/SilverPrince]] for a non-canon but ultimately cool hint for running the Bodhisattva Anointed by Dark Waters 

== Neph's Item ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ArrowMonsoonQuiver]] for a quiver that produces (lovely) arrows 

== Fair Folk ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/KungFuDwarves]] for what the mountain folk will look like. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkBadAsses]] for more on the mountian folk. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkInspiration]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/PlayingFaeBlooded]] for a note on playing Fae-Blooded from the PG 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MaddeningHintMethod]] for Neph almost but not quite telling us something. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkSongs]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AssumptionOfCerementsAndBones]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ReturnToGlory]] for what might happen if you return the Mountain Folk to glory. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/MountainFolkMerits]]&Flaws for Neph's take on appropriate usage and modified Merits & Flaws for the Jadeborn 

== Infernals 1e ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/OntheYozis]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/DifferenceFromAbyssals]] 

== Alchemicals ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalAbilitiesAtCreation]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalMusic]] 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalRelativePower]] How Alchemicals stack up next to other Exalts 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalSizes]] on the correct size / Essence relations in E:Au 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/AlchemicalSorcery]] for why they don't get Sorcery AND Weaving 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/BeamKlaves]] for their proper Artifact rating and what they can cut through. 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/CharmSlots]] on why you can't buy Slots without Charms at reduced XP cost. 

== Off Topic ==
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/ExaltedCompendium]] The compendium is a diseased place 
[[Thus_Spake_Zaranephilpal/NotCanon]] Neph's explanation about his stuff 

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